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KrisBee

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I'm new on this thing so I'm not sure if I'm in the right place...
I have been working out for months now, changed my diet and I still have not lost any weight. I do cardio atleast 6 days a week for an hour and lift 5 days a week alternating with lower and upper body. I have read some good things about T3 and wanted to know opinions on wether or not it's a good idea to take and the dosage for women.
 
Hi Kris,

Welcome to Elite to help you out we are going to need more info.

What is your current stats? Height? Weight? Body Fat %?

What exactly are you doing for diet? Plug you daily intake into www.fitday.com and let us know what your macro break down is.

List out your diet in detail example:
8 am
6 egg whites
1/3 c oatmeal

10 am
1 cup skim milk
1 scope whey

etc

Have you been to a Dr and had your thyroid tested to see if there is a problem?
 
I'm 5'3 and I weigh 140.. 15% bf...
My height and weight ratio sounds pretty off but I don't actually look like i weight that amount..I'm not looking to drop alot of weight just loose some unwanted fat in the stomach area... and cardio is NOT working.. I have checked with my doctor on that and he said mine is perfectly fine..
 
Penelope.May said:
you should probably starve yourself, 5'3 and 140... WOW!
try upping your cardiop to 3 hours EVERYDAY


Ummm... thanks..
anyways I have a HORRIBLE of diet.. i have no time and with 18 hours of class and a full time job its hard to squeeze it in since I am never home... I cut out all the fast food and cokes and that hasnt helped any...

For breakfast I have jamba juice... its basically strawberries, lemon juice, white grape juice and peaches..

Lunch I have a subway club sandwich and water and

Dinner I have grilled chicken with either green beans or mac and chesse.. usually something quick
 
KrisBee said:
Ummm... thanks..
anyways I have a HORRIBLE of diet.. i have no time and with 18 hours of class and a full time job its hard to squeeze it in since I am never home... I cut out all the fast food and cokes and that hasnt helped any...

For breakfast I have jamba juice... its basically strawberries, lemon juice, white grape juice and peaches..

Lunch I have a subway club sandwich and water and

Dinner I have grilled chicken with either green beans or mac and chesse.. usually something quick
That is your problem right there. You have to make time hun, diet is 90% of the battle here.
I work , go to school and train, I know it's hard... but if you want it bad enough you will make time.

You are eating enough, the right foods, as often as you should...
 
*Bunny* said:
That is your problem right there. You have to make time hun, diet is 90% of the battle here.
I work , go to school and train, I know it's hard... but if you want it bad enough you will make time.

You are eating enough, the right foods, as often as you should...


Any suggestions on things I should change? Should i be eating moer times a day with a smaller portion or is it the types of food that i am eating that is bad?
 
IMO I wouldnt mess with your thyroid when all you have to do is adjust your diet... messing up your thyroid by taking unnecessary meds is just stupid to me. That is SUCH an important gland not to be phucked with unless it needs to be.

Have to checked out the stickies at the top of this page? A little girl power, insight, tough love, motivation, just a little time to read, wich you HAVE if youre searching the net and found ef lol :)

Sample diets to take a look at ...
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5772429&postcount=5
this is how you should structure your eating

I wold take 10 min to read this post in it's entirety
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=388278

QUICK EXCERPT
The simplest thing to remember is that you have to EAT TO LOSE BODYFAT! Your body is a nearly perfect biochemical machine that WANTS to run efficiently. Its like fueling a Ferrari w/ high grade gasoline -- filling the tank when its empty, replacing the oil, etc, running it like it loves to be run at high speeds takign sharp corners and looking all sexy, running down all of its fuel and various maintenance items. Then replacing those items with exactly what it needs, cleanest sources available and in just the right amounts for optimized operation. BUT if you have all of that and then throw some mud in the gas tank, expect this amazing machine to run like crap. Thus you get the "plateau" you don't feel as energetic or vibrant any more, your results start to crap out and then you start to feel frustrated with all of your time in the gym because nothing seems to be working.

Its easy to fix - clean the mud out of your gas tank. Get the good quality gas. Change your oil. Basic stuff to get you started:

- Keep your processed food intake to a minimum - this includes Cheerios, ice cream, Ritz crackers, and yes, even wheat bread. Avoid "white" carbs -- i.e. white bread. Replace with good starchy carbs -- potatos, yams, brown rice (though I don't eat much of this), oatmeal (not the quick-oats but the old-fashioned oats, and not the flavored stuff that comes in packets either). Peanut butter - use Natural PB -e.g. Smuckers. The regular stuff has lots of sugars & stuff in it.

- Eat protein at every meal. Chicken, fish, steak, turkey, eggs

- Drink your weight in ounces of water (e.g. i weigh 150 lb, i drink 150 oz water) -- keeps you hydrated and your system flushed, helps to carry out the waste/ by-products of your body's daily processing functions

- Fats - make sure you get some fats -- almonds, natural PB, fish, Essential Fatty Acid (EFA) pills, flax seed oil are all options

- Eat 5-6 smaller meals - seperated by 2-3 hrs -- this is because your body can process proteins / fats & carbs from one meal wihin that time -- same as filling the tank on the Ferrrari, running it at top speed across I-75 from Miami to Ft Myers (across the FL peninsula east to west) to burn up all the fuel, and sitting for your next meal in another 2-3 hrs.

- Save your junk food for a single cheat (or call it a "reward" ) meal or day after staying clean for a week. Its good to throw some junk in your system so it is able to process it occassionally -- i.e. if u eat 100% clean all the time, eventually your body has a hard time processing junk like too much salt, dairy, too many carbs, etc. and it just isn't fun. So every 5-7 days throw in some junk. Not a lot of junk, but some junk. IT also helps you keep from going nuts on a tight diet and also gives you room to plan your socializing.
 
*Bunny* said:
IMO I wouldnt mess with your thyroid when all you have to do is adjust your diet... messing up your thyroid by taking unnecessary meds is just stupid to me. That is SUCH an important gland not to be phucked with unless it needs to be.

Have to checked out the stickies at the top of this page? A little girl power, insight, tough love, motivation, just a little time to read, wich you HAVE if youre searching the net and found ef lol :)

Sample diets to take a look at ...
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5772429&postcount=5
this is how you should structure your eating

I wold take 10 min to read this post in it's entirety
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=388278

QUICK EXCERPT
The simplest thing to remember is that you have to EAT TO LOSE BODYFAT! Your body is a nearly perfect biochemical machine that WANTS to run efficiently. Its like fueling a Ferrari w/ high grade gasoline -- filling the tank when its empty, replacing the oil, etc, running it like it loves to be run at high speeds takign sharp corners and looking all sexy, running down all of its fuel and various maintenance items. Then replacing those items with exactly what it needs, cleanest sources available and in just the right amounts for optimized operation. BUT if you have all of that and then throw some mud in the gas tank, expect this amazing machine to run like crap. Thus you get the "plateau" you don't feel as energetic or vibrant any more, your results start to crap out and then you start to feel frustrated with all of your time in the gym because nothing seems to be working.

Its easy to fix - clean the mud out of your gas tank. Get the good quality gas. Change your oil. Basic stuff to get you started:

- Keep your processed food intake to a minimum - this includes Cheerios, ice cream, Ritz crackers, and yes, even wheat bread. Avoid "white" carbs -- i.e. white bread. Replace with good starchy carbs -- potatos, yams, brown rice (though I don't eat much of this), oatmeal (not the quick-oats but the old-fashioned oats, and not the flavored stuff that comes in packets either). Peanut butter - use Natural PB -e.g. Smuckers. The regular stuff has lots of sugars & stuff in it.

- Eat protein at every meal. Chicken, fish, steak, turkey, eggs

- Drink your weight in ounces of water (e.g. i weigh 150 lb, i drink 150 oz water) -- keeps you hydrated and your system flushed, helps to carry out the waste/ by-products of your body's daily processing functions

- Fats - make sure you get some fats -- almonds, natural PB, fish, Essential Fatty Acid (EFA) pills, flax seed oil are all options

- Eat 5-6 smaller meals - seperated by 2-3 hrs -- this is because your body can process proteins / fats & carbs from one meal wihin that time -- same as filling the tank on the Ferrrari, running it at top speed across I-75 from Miami to Ft Myers (across the FL peninsula east to west) to burn up all the fuel, and sitting for your next meal in another 2-3 hrs.

- Save your junk food for a single cheat (or call it a "reward" ) meal or day after staying clean for a week. Its good to throw some junk in your system so it is able to process it occassionally -- i.e. if u eat 100% clean all the time, eventually your body has a hard time processing junk like too much salt, dairy, too many carbs, etc. and it just isn't fun. So every 5-7 days throw in some junk. Not a lot of junk, but some junk. IT also helps you keep from going nuts on a tight diet and also gives you room to plan your socializing.

Thanks for all of your info... i figured i would have to change my diet more just didnt know what to choose from!
 
KrisBee said:
Thanks for all of your info... i figured i would have to change my diet more just didnt know what to choose from!
There are many women, helpful ones here to help you. Ask any questions you have, just take some time to read the stickies 1st, all we ask ;)

Have to start somewhere
 
Welcome kris! Diet is always the key. I learned that the hard way. I tried all sorts of "things" and it didn't do a thing, including t3. It worked some, but if my diet would have been in check, I would have seen much better results. Keep your chin up and keep trying. If you are lifting that much, your weight could be from the muscle you have built up!
 
Hi kris & welcome to EF! Buns pretty much nailed it - its the diet. You know that old saying, "You are what you eat'... its true! If you eat random shitty food whenever, your body has to filter thru a lot of excess sludge to get to the nutrients it needs, it never knows when it is going to get the next meal and then you ask it to lift 5x/week and do an hour of cardio / day. There are lots of degrees of strictness & speed of progress depending on how diligent and consistent you are in your program - so if you want a cheat meal a couple times / week or you can't get in the food prep time or whatever limitation, then you have to expect a slower progress rate, but you will still get progress. But just as you've put in the time for consistent lifting & cardio, you need to go the extra mile and be consistent in your eating as well. I guarantee you will see quick results!

RE: your stats - if it helps at all I'm 5'7" and consistently my body settles in between 162 - 165 lb. My bodyfat is probably around 16-17% but I also consistently wear a size 4-6 pants and the last thing anyone would call me is "fat". I'd enjoy being leaner, but for the stats I've got I wear it pretty well.

If you've stayed pretty consistently at 15% I'd guess your body has adapted to that point given the consistent training regimen and inconsistent diet. So this is what your body now considers "normal" and this is the best response it can give you. The fact that your bf hasn't changed means you need to change something to spur some progress. Diet will be a very easy thing to change. May take a day or two to figure out the best way to prepare & pack your food choices for the next day - but every one of us has been under duress and figured it out. I've been carrying food for a whole day (I'm completely self-contained and ready to accommodate any change in my schedule from 6 am until the next day if I have to because I have everythign with me & ready to go) for more than 6 yrs straight. This is with leaving home for 5 am cardio and coming back after 10 pm after a full days' work, commute, gym and home again. Just takes a little planning & organization to see what works best for you. But once you figure it out, you are golden. YOu'll probably save some money on buying the take out food too.

15% is absolutely not a bad bodyfat - what is your goal? Drop bodyfat? Lean out? More muscle? Get rid of fat in a certain area? More strength? What?
 
Well thank you for all of yalls help... I know I need to change my diet.. BIG time...
I just don't understand why my weight isn't just dropping off... i mean don't kill me for saying this but I used to eat Mc Donalds atleast once if not twice a day just a month ago! I knew that if I really wanted to change my body diet was going to be my number one but I guess I just expected too much just from not eating the fast food. Do yall have any suggestions for other cardio routines I could do other than my hour of running?
 
KrisBee said:
Do yall have any suggestions for other cardio routines I could do other than my hour of running?


HIIT

High Intensity Interval Training

20-30 tops
3 days a week
 
ill be the first one to say that krisbee stats do not represent her actual physique..

she is a hottie.. haha.. i almost shit a brick when i actually saw the scale, i guessed 105 MAX.. i would post a picture of her but she might kill me! shes sleeping in the other room, yes we live together

her main problem is probably having a boyfriend who is bulking.. and eating 5000 calories a day.. and shes eating some of the same foods because she doesnt have time to cook and he rushes her off to the gym with him(im a jerk)

diet is everything, but we are workin on that

a little more detail with HIIT training or an article to read about it would probably help

ok back to the steroid discussion forum!
 
jmead said:
ill be the first one to say that krisbee stats do not represent her actual physique..

she is a hottie.. haha.. i almost shit a brick when i actually saw the scale, i guessed 105 MAX.. i would post a picture of her but she might kill me! shes sleeping in the other room, yes we live together

a little more detail with HIIT training or an article to read about it would probably help

ok back to the steroid discussion forum!

HIIT links in this post:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5772954&postcount=9


I have to ask - you have anyone else living you and kris?
Or using your computer?

PM me
 
Sassy69 said:
Hi kris & welcome to EF! Buns pretty much nailed it - its the diet. You know that old saying, "You are what you eat'... its true! If you eat random shitty food whenever, your body has to filter thru a lot of excess sludge to get to the nutrients it needs, it never knows when it is going to get the next meal and then you ask it to lift 5x/week and do an hour of cardio / day. There are lots of degrees of strictness & speed of progress depending on how diligent and consistent you are in your program - so if you want a cheat meal a couple times / week or you can't get in the food prep time or whatever limitation, then you have to expect a slower progress rate, but you will still get progress. But just as you've put in the time for consistent lifting & cardio, you need to go the extra mile and be consistent in your eating as well. I guarantee you will see quick results!

RE: your stats - if it helps at all I'm 5'7" and consistently my body settles in between 162 - 165 lb. My bodyfat is probably around 16-17% but I also consistently wear a size 4-6 pants and the last thing anyone would call me is "fat". I'd enjoy being leaner, but for the stats I've got I wear it pretty well.

If you've stayed pretty consistently at 15% I'd guess your body has adapted to that point given the consistent training regimen and inconsistent diet. So this is what your body now considers "normal" and this is the best response it can give you. The fact that your bf hasn't changed means you need to change something to spur some progress. Diet will be a very easy thing to change. May take a day or two to figure out the best way to prepare & pack your food choices for the next day - but every one of us has been under duress and figured it out. I've been carrying food for a whole day (I'm completely self-contained and ready to accommodate any change in my schedule from 6 am until the next day if I have to because I have everythign with me & ready to go) for more than 6 yrs straight. This is with leaving home for 5 am cardio and coming back after 10 pm after a full days' work, commute, gym and home again. Just takes a little planning & organization to see what works best for you. But once you figure it out, you are golden. YOu'll probably save some money on buying the take out food too.

15% is absolutely not a bad bodyfat - what is your goal? Drop bodyfat? Lean out? More muscle? Get rid of fat in a certain area? More strength? What?

Really i would like to drop body fat... even though i have alot of muscle in my legs I dont have so much in my stomach area... any suggestions?
 
KrisBee said:
Well thank you for all of yalls help... I know I need to change my diet.. BIG time...
I just don't understand why my weight isn't just dropping off... i mean don't kill me for saying this but I used to eat Mc Donalds atleast once if not twice a day just a month ago! I knew that if I really wanted to change my body diet was going to be my number one but I guess I just expected too much just from not eating the fast food. Do yall have any suggestions for other cardio routines I could do other than my hour of running?

My dear, cardio is only one part of a balanced program. Why isn't the fat 'just dropping off'? My guess would be that your diet, no matter what calorie level you are at, is telling your body 'store fat, store fat, store fat'. Your body is VERY good at following instructions. Bunny gave you excellent advice, the stickies are excellent advice. Your McDonalds days may have been giving your body enough calories in a reasonable period of time to allow your body to feel it wasn't starving to death.

Personally, I can cardio and weight myself to death, but I can't drop fat if my daily calories are regularly below 1850 (my maintenance at this activity level is 2200). Counterintuitive, but I come from a genetic line (American Indian/Irish) that survived famine on a regular basis and the bod's not letting go of that fat unless it is darn sure that there's lots of food around on a regular (six meals a day) basis.

You're a college student - do some research on your subject. All the classes you're taking may be important, but they're going to have NO bearing on your life for the next seventy years like doing your health research now is. If the stickies are too much, get a copy of the book Body for Life from the library. Buy a copy of the e-book Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle. No one can do your research for you . . and cheating in THIS class has lifetime consequence.

Good luck - I wish I'd started at your age.
 
KrisBee said:
Really i would like to drop body fat... even though i have alot of muscle in my legs I dont have so much in my stomach area... any suggestions?


if you're trying to get your abs to show - again, diet is key. "Abs are made in the kitchen". Sad, but true. lol I'm guessing you'll need to get your BF down to about 12-13% for them to start showing. Some women need to get their bf lower to see abs.

Are you wroking your abs? If you're looking for more definition, 3x a week on abs is plenty.
 
the-short-one said:
if you're trying to get your abs to show - again, diet is key. "Abs are made in the kitchen". Sad, but true. lol I'm guessing you'll need to get your BF down to about 12-13% for them to start showing. Some women need to get their bf lower to see abs.

Are you wroking your abs? If you're looking for more definition, 3x a week on abs is plenty.

Agreed. You probably do have abdominal muscle, but you just can't see it because there's fat covering it up...it's usually one of the last places to go. Really, you never know how much muscle you actually have until you diet down. I think a lot of women think they have really muscular legs, but until you cut down, it's hard to see what's muscle and what's fat.

Welcome to EF and good luck with your goals! :)
You can really learn a lot about diet here....check out other people's logs and ask questions.
 
out on a limb here BUT

If you arent losing on a great diet/training - t3 wil make things worse.


Forget about using it
 
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