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T3 w/ ECA?

hanibal

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i'm starting 6 weeks of T3 tomorrow. i'm also on prop, tren ace, letro and clen. i'm stopping clen tomorrow for 2 weeks, and was going to use ECA during 2 off weeks of clen, but i have read a few times that ECA should not be used w/ T3. anyone know anything about this? i'm thinking of just running the T3 w/ no ECA and just get back on the clen in 2 weeks. do i really need ECA? T3 is strong and i figure i might as well give my heart a break during these 2 weeks.???
 
I have read on the board that you can run clen for a while when you are using T3 b/c the T3 upgrades your beta receptors. Not sure about the ECA
 
hanibal said:
i'm starting 6 weeks of T3 tomorrow. i'm also on prop, tren ace, letro and clen. i'm stopping clen tomorrow for 2 weeks, and was going to use ECA during 2 off weeks of clen, but i have read a few times that ECA should not be used w/ T3. anyone know anything about this? i'm thinking of just running the T3 w/ no ECA and just get back on the clen in 2 weeks. do i really need ECA? T3 is strong and i figure i might as well give my heart a break during these 2 weeks.???


Should use a Non beta 2 fat burner during your 2 weeks off of Clen.... Something like Trex or Stimulant X are perfect options.... ECA will stimulate your Beta 2 receptors, and youre trying to let them grow back in these 2 weeks off of Clen..... Using ECA kinda defeats the whole purpose of doing a 2 week on/2 week off cycle of clen..... ECA and T3 are fine to run together, that's not your problem.... If anything, I would just run the T3 and no ECA these 2 weeks off of Clen..... Order a non beta 2 fat burner tomorrow, and start that up when it comes.... Got it?

rizz
 
Prizz said:
Should use a Non beta 2 fat burner during your 2 weeks off of Clen.... Something like Trex or Stimulant X are perfect options.... ECA will stimulate your Beta 2 receptors, and youre trying to let them grow back in these 2 weeks off of Clen..... Using ECA kinda defeats the whole purpose o

rizz


Prizz is all over it. :coffee: :coffee:
 
heavy_duty said:
How would one know if their fat burner is "non beta 2"?
I use Hydro-Lean by West Pharm


Well, you gotta ask questions before buying it.... If Hydro-Lean had Ephedrine in it, it is a Beta 2 fatburner..... I'm already telling you that Trex from AF store ISN'T Beta2, and neither is Stimulant X.... Stimulant X is sold on numerous sites...... Just pick up either of these, and save that Hydro-Lean for another time..... That's my advice any way.....

rizz
 
i always thought that eca and clen affected different receptors, thats why most people use ECA during there 2 weeks off clen
 
Not exactly true.... Ephedrine hits ALOT of receptors (Beta 2 included), where Clen is specificly Beta 2.... So, Ephedrine use won't TOTALLY supress your Beta 2 receptor regrowth, but you want MAXIMAL growth during your off Clen cycle.... Thus, avoiding ANY Beta 2 drug during your 2 week off Clen cycle is optimal.... I've been doing it for 6 weeks now, just ended my 2nd clen run, and it works MUCH better then if you use ECA during the 2 weeks off......

rizz
 
good info on here
T3 during a clen/ECA stack greatly increases its effectiveness due to its andrelgenic receptor regnerative properties
 
hanibal said:
so u use nothing during off weeks?


No, I use either Trex, Stimulant X, or just plain Caffiene (200mg 3 times per day).... Just depends on what I'm going for..... I think Trex gives the best Fat burning out of all the non Beta 2 burners..... Stimulant X gives the best Appetite suppression, and Caffiene gives the best Energy boost.... It's only 2 weeks, so any option will work.....

As for T3, I use T3 all Summer long..... I basically go with 25mcg per day, for 3mths.... It works really well for me, and doesn't affect my Thyroid function afterwards, as long as I taper off really well..... I'll go up to 50mcg per day for a few weeks, but that's as high as I go..... Been doing the low dose, long duration T3 cycles for years now.... Works the best for me..... However, I can't say that T3 use makes Clen more effective..... I mean, I take T3, I use Benadryl EVERY NIGHT for sleep, and I still don't see my Beta 2 receptors staying "Fresh" longer..... I just don't buy that information.... I know, I've seen the studies, but it doesn't work for me......

rizz
 
how does shorter (6 week), cycles up to 100mcg or so compare to 12 week cycles at 25mcg/day?
i've always only done 6-8 weeks starting w/ 25mcg, slowly up to 100mcg/day then down to almost nothing.
 
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