synthol many uneducated on this board

[finalabs]

This board to me has the smartest members however lets put to rest some myths

#1 synthol makes muscles look like Greg valentinos crazy 24-27 inch arms

maybe if you use tons and tons for years
well a lot of the pro bodybuilder and big time amateurs that i know and i know about 20 and 18 of them use synthol the other 2 might but say they don't and are honest about other stuff so I'm sure they don't but anyway
the 18 use just enough for 1/2 to 1.5 inches in delts calves various places and you can not tell,
could you tell the use of esiclean for the last 15 years to swell the muscle pre-contest

#2 danger its the exact same danger as shooting any oil base deca, test ,sostanon you name it
If you don't pull back you can f-up the difference is most shoot test / deca in their ass not in their biceps so they don't really need to aspirate or pull back
in your calves,biceps,triceps lats,traps you should aspirate pull back

#3 its cheating..... well by joe-average so is steroids creatine plastic surgery but also makeup and haircoloring oh and viagra give me a break who cares if you cheat as long as you win or look good

what happens is you get say 1 inch you lose 1/4-1/2 inch that was simple swelling in 1-2 weeks
you keep 1/2-3/4 inch by stretching the muscle with oil but its easier to replace it with real muscle so as the oil disipates and you work out hard you can keep all gains and replace oil with real muscle over the next year

 

[DIVISION]

This board to me has the smartest members however lets put to rest some myths

Who gives a fuck about Synthol?

Most of the people asking about it are newbies who want the easy way out.

Let them fuck themselves up if they're stupid enough to try it.




DIV

 

[galaxy]

Excellent post! I always cringe when I see someone post a thread with questions in regards to synthol use because I know they will be flamed by the masses. I dont even understand why the naysayers post on these threads. There not answering the questions that are being asked by someone who is merely looking to educate themselves. Anyway........................galaxy

 

[DIVISION]

Excellent post! I always cringe when I see someone post a thread with questions in regards to synthol use because I know they will be flamed by the masses. I dont even understand why the naysayers post on these threads. There not answering the questions that are being asked by someone who is merely looking to educate themselves. Anyway........................galaxy

eh Galaxy,

I think mainly it's because Synthol has a bad reputation and people are tired of seeing it in threads and mentioned with weightlifting/BB.




DIV

 

[galaxy]

No its because people are trained like cattle.lol And whether u like it or not bodybuilding and synthol go hand in hand.

 

[DIVISION]

No its because people are trained like cattle.lol And whether u like it or not bodybuilding and synthol go hand in hand.

I'm skeptical that many IFBB pros use Synthol.

Obviously there are some extreme cases like Milos Sarcev and Sonbaty, but I doubt the average pro uses that shit.





DIV

 

[mrplunkey]

IMO, Synthol does pose a threat to what we do in that everything else can at least be *slightly* linked-back to overall health and fitness. I know it's a streach to justify heavy/frequent AAS cycling, but we can at least rally around the "male HRT" flag or justify use as a way to insure progression in strength or mass (or both).

Now Synthol, on the other hand, has no place in health or fitness. It's purely an aesthetic issue IMO (or unaesthetic, depending on your tastes) so it stands-out as a testiment to the use of drugs for purely vain purposes. Combine that with how some people use it to get "freaky" musculature in certain areas (i.e. bicepts) and it brings a lot of attention to an area that doesn't really want that much attention.

Not a flame... not a rant... just my 2 cents!

 

[maldorf]

take a look at how this fool screwed up his biceps. His left one is really messed up.

http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmuscle.cx/

 

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IMO, Synthol does pose a threat to what we do in that everything else can at least be *slightly* linked-back to overall health and fitness. I know it's a streach to justify heavy/frequent AAS cycling, but we can at least rally around the "male HRT" flag or justify use as a way to insure progression in strength or mass (or both).

Now Synthol, on the other hand, has no place in health or fitness. It's purely an aesthetic issue IMO (or unaesthetic, depending on your tastes) so it stands-out as a testiment to the use of drugs for purely vain purposes. Combine that with how some people use it to get "freaky" musculature in certain areas (i.e. bicepts) and it brings a lot of attention to an area that doesn't really want that much attention.

Not a flame... not a rant... just my 2 cents!

I see your point, but lets be honest here. How many people lift weights for the reason of looking better. I think the answer is most of us do. Yes is it also great for heatlh reasons, but the main reason for most people is looking better. With that being said, what is wrong with synthol use? I don't think anything is. It's a simple thing to decide. Use it if you like it. Don't use it if it's not appealing to you.

 

[LVTitan]

im no fan of synthol. there is just no need for it. arnold has a great physique, and one that can be achieved with some hard work, and a needle.
no need for synthol
synthol is for the freaks that no longer want to look 'pleasing' or 'aeshetic' ; they want to look like freaks.

 

[junk]

The use of Synthol as a "shortcut" is scorn just like the use of juice as a shortcut is so. A guy training for a short time as nothing to do with synthol. However, a massive bodybuilder with a genetically small calves might not have any other option, some guys willl never grow big enough calves (unlike me) to match their arms, seems to be a stubburn muscle for many, so as a 'patch' it might have it's place. But not with a guy having 21" arms who wants 22", now that's pathetic.

 

[DIVISION]

im no fan of synthol. there is just no need for it. arnold has a great physique, and one that can be achieved with some hard work, and a needle.
no need for synthol
synthol is for the freaks that no longer want to look 'pleasing' or 'aeshetic' ; they want to look like freaks.

I agree with the BabyTiTaN.....

Synthol has no place........I just don't see it as a means to any end other than being a sideshow.....too many great BB's have tried to use it and fucked up their physiques in the process.


DIV

 

[BOOEY]

I equate synthol use to getting implants. That's not what BB should be about

 

[Triple J]

well many have said arnold had calf implants

the idea with synthol is to stretch the fascia or the endomysium so the muscle fibers are not as constrained in their growth

its a similar principle as site injections

i have never done it but do not have a big issue with it when used in moderation

its not something any newb should be jumping into though. thats the problem with discussing advanced or controversial topics on the boards, some idiot will get the wrong idea and do something stupid

 

[galaxy]

Well theres also rumors of arnold experimenting with early forms of synthol that didnt contain the lidocain. And to doubt this would be silly. Were talking about the guys who were breaking ground as far as chemical enhancement goes.

 

[Tux]

To me, synthol is the same thing as steroids. You're using it to artificially enhance your physique beyond what nature intended. Just like steroids, if you're new to lifting and/or don't know what you're doing, you'll probably F##K yourself up. And also just like steroids, if done correctly and intelligently, can yield excellent results. I don't think synthol has as much place in recreational bodybuilding as steroids do, since most of us won't step on stage and it won't really matter if our calves are the only thing holding us back from 1st place. However, to place synthol high on the pariah pedestal like we do misunderstood agents such as DNP, Insulin, T3, etc, is ludicrous. Sure, it can make you look freaky... so can steroids in general. It has just as much place in bbing as do steroids, and should not be treated any differently. Ok, that's my l'il penguin rant That being said, I'll likely never use synthol myself, nothing on my body is THAT out of proportion and I'll probably never compete nationally.

 

[DIVISION]

Ok, that's my l'il penguin rant

I will not stop until I have tracked you down and made you eat yellow snow... Let's see how the lil' penguin reacts to that.....not so nice anymore.




DIV

 

[macrophage69alpha]

#2 danger its the exact same danger as shooting any oil base deca, test ,sostanon you name it
If you don't pull back you can f-up the difference is most shoot test / deca in their ass not in their biceps so they don't really need to aspirate or pull back
in your calves,biceps,triceps lats,traps you should aspirate pull back

this is not accurate. The impact of encapsulation and subsequent scar tissue does represent significantly more risk.

 

[needsize]

the use of steroids creates real muscle mass, which is no where the same thing as simply filling a muscle with oil to make it look bigger. I personally would never use it, and think it should be against the rules in any bodybuilding contest

 

[hardrock]

take a look at how this fool screwed up his biceps. His left one is really messed up.

http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmuscle.cx/

Looks like Tom Prince. Either way, it's gotta be a fake.

I could give a fuck who uses the shit as long as it looks good. I'm sure I'll never use it though. I don't lift weights to be strong, that's just an added bonus. I lift for appearance, which BTW is what bodybuilding is all about.

 

[galaxy]

Its Brad Hollibaugh and hes obviously an idiot to even try and pass that off as a bicep. Again, this ass represents a small group of idiots using this stuff. There are many more that you would never even know. Lets also not forget these guys use a ton of escilene before contests and photo shoots also.

 

[transform]

the use of steroids creates real muscle mass, which is no where the same thing as simply filling a muscle with oil to make it look bigger. I personally would never use it, and think it should be against the rules in any bodybuilding contest

Exactly.Steroids are a means of getting past what you naturally couldnt, kind of like synthol. However, with steroids your still building real lean muscle and making your muscles stronger. With synthol your just infating them with oil and you dont get any stronger since at the end of the day its oil that your bigger from, rather than muscle.

 

[maldorf]

Looks like Tom Prince. Either way, it's gotta be a fake.

I could give a fuck who uses the shit as long as it looks good. I'm sure I'll never use it though. I don't lift weights to be strong, that's just an added bonus. I lift for appearance, which BTW is what bodybuilding is all about.

That picture actually is the real deal, did you watch the video. Click on the link. Suppose he injected too much oil into that one area over and over again?

 

[DIVISION]

Exactly.Steroids are a means of getting past what you naturally couldnt, kind of like synthol. However, with steroids your still building real lean muscle and making your muscles stronger. With synthol your just infating them with oil and you dont get any stronger since at the end of the day its oil that your bigger from, rather than muscle.

Exactly.....




DIV

 

[galaxy]

Ill agree, there is no need for synthol unless your a pro or top ranked amateur.

 

[needsize]

Ill agree, there is no need for synthol unless your a pro or top ranked amateur.

I can agree with that, but even then only because it evens the playing field as others are doing it, it really shouldnt be used at all. But some twit who is so lazy and impatient that he thinks steroids wont get him big muscles fast enough, shouldnt be using it, hell, he shouldnt be using juice either

 

[muscleup]

I agree 100 %

Looks like Tom Prince. Either way, it's gotta be a fake.

I could give a fuck who uses the shit as long as it looks good. I'm sure I'll never use it though. I don't lift weights to be strong, that's just an added bonus. I lift for appearance, which BTW is what bodybuilding is all about.

 

[FlexManning]

I'm skeptical that many IFBB pros use Synthol.

Obviously there are some extreme cases like Milos Sarcev and Sonbaty, but I doubt the average pro uses that shit.





DIV

Uh dude, are you serious? Chris Clarke and Flex Wheeler were on a first name basis. I've even seen a Flex Magazine with Nasser flexing his bis with bruises right at the peak. Ruhl, Dexter Jackson, obvious users. Coleman obviously has done some sort of site injections in his calves. Even a huge portion of the pros that don't use synthol use site injections for their gear and to tell you the truth there isn't much difference. I'd highly recommend that people complaining about the pain of site injecting prop and high mg/ml gear get some Esik-Clean, thin the shot out with it, and quit filling up the board with such a repetitive question.

 

[FlexManning]

well many have said arnold had calf implants

the idea with synthol is to stretch the fascia or the endomysium so the muscle fibers are not as constrained in their growth

its a similar principle as site injections

i have never done it but do not have a big issue with it when used in moderation

its not something any newb should be jumping into though. thats the problem with discussing advanced or controversial topics on the boards, some idiot will get the wrong idea and do something stupid

I agree with the idea that it's hard to discuss advanced topics. There are obviously people here who've never seen real gear in their lives but are considering synthol. One thing I should add right here is that all the suggestions about working up to 3cc a day in a given muscle are very bad ideas IMO.

You are also correct in stating there is some evidence actual muscle growth can be produced through stretching. Even Author Rea has said as much.

Another rumor I've heard about Arnold is that his calves were injected with silicone, which sounds crazy but in fact there are doctors in some countries who do actually do silicone injections in muscles, penises, lips, etc.

 

[galaxy]

So you would think if he put silicone in his calves that more than likely it went into his arms also? Like I said before he was a pioneer and probably the most radical considering he had the most muscled physique of his time. A physique that was also way ahead of many of his competitors. Kinda like how Dorian broke new ground in 94 with slin.

These guys are total freaks. Were talking about pro bbs who probably shoot themselves in excess of 20 times before a photoshoot with esiclene, synthol and there juice.

And once again, synthol is best discussed on more hardcore boards. This really isnt the board for it.

 

[21gun]

No its because people are trained like cattle.lol And whether u like it or not bodybuilding and synthol go hand in hand.

You are exactly right. People are like cattle. If one person finds something to get an edge, the rest will be sure to follow.

 

[muscleup]

Listen to this man.....He knows what he is talking about.

So you would think if he put silicone in his calves that more than likely it went into his arms also? Like I said before he was a pioneer and probably the most radical considering he had the most muscled physique of his time. A physique that was also way ahead of many of his competitors. Kinda like how Dorian broke new ground in 94 with slin.

These guys are total freaks. Were talking about pro bbs who probably shoot themselves in excess of 20 times before a photoshoot with esiclene, synthol and there juice.

And once again, synthol is best discussed on more hardcore boards. This really isnt the board for it.

 

[FlexManning]

So you would think if he put silicone in his calves that more than likely it went into his arms also? Like I said before he was a pioneer and probably the most radical considering he had the most muscled physique of his time. A physique that was also way ahead of many of his competitors. Kinda like how Dorian broke new ground in 94 with slin.

These guys are total freaks. Were talking about pro bbs who probably shoot themselves in excess of 20 times before a photoshoot with esiclene, synthol and there juice.

And once again, synthol is best discussed on more hardcore boards. This really isnt the board for it.

I can't even say I'm 100% convinced he used it in his calves, but I can say that his arms were rather large before his calf problem seemed to miraculously solve itself. It is pretty well known that he was obsessed with improving his calves, supposedly flying out to stay with Reg Park for advice on them, doing donkey raises with half the gym sitting on his back, supposedly cutting the legs out of sweats to mock himself and so forth.

His arm improvement probably wasn't anymore radical from his early days to his prime than Scott or any other pro with fantastic arms. Arnold even had great arms before he used drugs apparently.

As far as synthol being hardcore, to be honest if people aren't mature enough to discuss sterile MCT oil in a bottle then they are in the wrong place. On a board where people are openly discussing smuggling, insulin use, DNP, and so forth if there are going to be a dozen people wetting their pants and saying synthol causes a 5 year lump in muscles everytime the subject is brought up, then these people seriously need to find another hobby. These guys here who are handing out life and death advice about insulin, often giving outdated info from Dan Duchaine's early works, and then saying that thinning shots with synthol causes lumpy muscles (and by the way, Valentino's bicep is f*cked up because a doctor cut a chunk of his bicep out to cure a sever abscess after he injected about 30ccs a week of EQ into it), it's wearing a little thin.

I constantly hear approaches recommended like Clomid to to cure HPTA suppression caused by prolactin inducing steroids such as tren (obviously HCG is indicated). I hear myths spread constantly like someone stating Deca is used for chemical castration. Let's face it, there are a lot of bros here giving shit advice and then complaining about newbies. I even saw some dickheads try to run William Llewyllen off the board because he said Deca doesn't aromatize easily.

I'm not saying I'm the steroid guru, I'm simply saying some of these bros need to read the books plugged on the same site they're handing out advice on, because most of what Author L. Rea says is refuted on a daily basis on this board.

 

[finalabs]

muscle scaring happens from regular steroids if shot in same area BIS/ CALVES ECT
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS SYNTHOL LAST LONGER CAUSEING STRECHING ITS THE SAME EXACT RISK ML FOR ML AS REGULAR JUICE IF REGULAR JUICE IS SHOT IN SAME AREAS AS THE SYNTHOL.

 

[chase152]

Synthol is for homos, plain and simple...

 

[21gun]

I tend to laugh at some of these guys using this shit. Sure they look good and some bodyparts are just freaky, but I have to laugh when they throw 225 lbs. on the bench and punch out 3 1/2 reps. I guess I am just old-school where size comes from strength. But, then again, use what works for you.

 

[bicepts101]

good thread....flex im right behind u bro....except for justifying valentinos retarded body. he looks like shit all around and hwatever got him there is irrellivant...fuck that joker

 

[TRAINHD]

So you would think if he put silicone in his calves that more than likely it went into his arms also? Like I said before he was a pioneer and probably the most radical considering he had the most muscled physique of his time. A physique that was also way ahead of many of his competitors. Kinda like how Dorian broke new ground in 94 with slin.

These guys are total freaks. Were talking about pro bbs who probably shoot themselves in excess of 20 times before a photoshoot with esiclene, synthol and there juice.

And once again, synthol is best discussed on more hardcore boards. This really isnt the board for it.

I could'nt agree with you more.

 

[karachi183]

I could'nt agree with you more.

The last thing the boards need are people looking for synthol for an easy way out. someone said it hear using synthol is like plastic surgery and for that matter it shouldn't be even considered in body building.

 

[shadowhunta]

take a look at how this fool screwed up his biceps. His left one is really messed up.

http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmuscle.cx/

LOL!!! that looks like SHIT