Swollen liver .... cycle or not

[Excidium28]

My work out partner has a swollen liver. He went to get his blood work done before he starts the cycle and when the results came back, doc sad he's liver is swollen possible Hep C, cancer, or something else. His cholestrol and everything else is good, he feels fine.

He's 23 and has been eating like shit (fatty foods). The doc wants him to take all these tests now like ultra sound, etc. but the stuff is taking for ever.

And working out with me is not much fun anymore considering im 4 weeks in my cycle. So we were thinking of maybe just starting the cycle on injectables. Untill he figures out what going on with his liver.

How much stress do injectables put on the liver?

 

[todoveritas]

Bro. Nothing is worth life. If your friend indeed has a swollen liver from some unknown cause, it would be a damn fool to throw a wrench into the medical diagnostic mix by starting AAS of any kind. And it would be a g*ddamn fool who would start any 17-alkylated compounds! Get that prob straightened out first!

 

[solidspine]

No, not wise,

how many cycles has he done?


The liver does not forgive, and a cycle will likely complicate any problems he may have and possibly very seriously .

Needs to see his MD again.

 

[sparetire]

injectibles are less toxic on the liver, but will stress it either way. You're talking about the health of his liver man. He's only got 1 liver. Sure it can regenerate, but dam, can't he just wait it out and find out whats wrong with him? There's always time to juice, but the consequences of him screwing up his liver and maybe risking his life is far worse than an 8-10 week cycle of juice. If he can't even get his priorities straight to get his liver healthy again, he shouldn't even be juicing, imho. Sorry to sound like i'm flaming on you, but this ignorance on his behalf is astounding. If he has hep c or something else wrong with it, that's pretty serious. And hell, he doesn't even have his diet in check and he's probably not 5-8% bf anyhow..so what if he does a 8 weeker..so he'll get bigger at the risk of his health all to make his health worse and lose muscle anyways after cycle..a lifetime of health is much better than a short time to do gear. he should just be patient and wait this one out..

 

[dsh89]

Injections with increase teh work on his liver as well. He serioouosly needs to cut out the fried fatty foods. Seriously juicing is great but I had to stop or die, well I would stop. Liver failure is permanent.

 

[truckdaddy]

stop and chill for a while, hop on the tylers fro 6-8 months and have the doc take another look at it.

 

[odoyal rulez]

are you fucking serious..tell me this isnt a serious question...

 

[bigrand]

Liver is responsible for steroid metabolism, oral or injectable, injectable not 17-AA, but still, WHATEVER he puts in his body now, liver will have to deal with it and it might not do a good job depending on whats going on with his liver.
Im guessing the Doc felt hepatomegaly...what were his ALT/AST/ALk Phos levels?

In all honesty, your friend needs to get his priorities in order, really, some people are retarded.

 

[gjohnson5]

NAC , Glutathione , Milk Thistle, cut out fatty foods and get off the gear.

 

[georgie24]

get off the gear.

AMen ^^^

its another case of get big or die trying...

i dont endorse that shit

 

[odoyal rulez]

AMen ^^^

its another case of get big or die trying...

i dont endorse that shit

hell yeah.....

 

[samoth]

How much stress do injectables put on the liver?

Honestly, far less than orals steroids.

However, a pre-existing condition is a very serious matter... especially since you mentioned the big "C" word here. Under no condition should steroids be even considered here until he knows exactly what is going on in his body as diagnosed by a medical doctor.

 

[georgie24]

it amazes me

dude gets solid diagnosis of hepatits and dude still wants to gain muscle?

oh and that guy last month," my buddy has cancer and wants to use HGH" .. !!! WTF !!

 

[NYBodyguard]

great advice so far ill just add if hes taking anything creatine tell him to stop

all the best hope it all works out

 

[bigrand]

He should stop ALL supplements of ANY KIND until he is diagnosed, then we will see what he will be able to do when he gets better....we dont need anything skewing the values of the tests.

Theres more to life than gettin big....
lets say it is hepatocellular carcinoma, metastatic pancreatic carcinoma....he will no longer be thinking about getting bigger, but spending the few months he has left to live with his family and friends
.....theres more to life than gettin big.

 

[SPOONY LUV]

i spent 5 days in the hospital back in december for a swollen liver...I wasn't as lucky as your buddy for my stomach hurt so bad it put me on the floor...Skin became yellow almost over night and my piss was as dark as night...After every test you can think of including a biopsy i was lucky to find out that i had no perm. damage to my liver...Just very swollen...

After blowing thru 200 oxy's in about 10 days my stomach started to feel better and my doctor didn't want me putting anything in me except food...No vitamins no nothing...And if your buddy is drinking alcohol at all, tell him to stop ASAP...Not even one beer atleast for 3 months...If he doesn't, i have no doubt he will end up where i did...The liver will repair itself as long as its not scarred...I partied my ass off for years and did plenty of gear thru out alot of those years and i was very surprised that my liver had no scarring at all...When i was in the hospital, i thought for sure i was fcked...