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swastsika really stands for PEACE

Umm no....I'd say Hitler adopted the symbol and put his own meaning to it....
 
is that what it "really" stands for dipshit? you are a fucking retard. you should change really to originally fuckface because it doesnt really stand for peace chitling breath.
 
Actually, the swastsika is pointing the different way from the original symbol(Eygptian in origin I think).
 
MoneyBags said:
is that what it "really" stands for dipshit? you are a fucking retard. you should change really to originally fuckface because it doesnt really stand for peace chitling breath.


yes, yes... i love you 2
 
The analysis of symbols is currently one of the noteworthy interests in anthropology. Yet, one of the most important symbols of mankind is largely ignored. One explanation for that may be that the Nazi connotations brought up by he swastika are so strong that most researchers and scholars feel this infamous symbol either does not deserve to be studied at all or that any effort in that direction will only serve to arouse suspicions of Nazi sympathy on the part of its author. As an example of this I can point to the fact that, even though the swastika is an important symbol in Japan, the Kodansha Encyclopedia of Japan (1983 edition) shows no entry under the subject of the swastika.



http://www.intelinet.org/swastika/swastika_intro.htm
 
its not just buddists that use it

iove seen it on meditations symbols

yes it means peace - where it was invented.

it might mean something to others but only to those inbred and retarded enough to actually display it with pride
 
"It seems as, after the Nazis appropriated the swastika and put it to their evil use, they contaminated this symbol forever. They have had the swastika hostage for more than 50 years. The swastika, most people believe, symbolizes Nazism and evil.

But the swastika had a long life before Hitler and the Nazis. It has been for centuries a symbol of peace, laughter, joy and good luck. It is one of the oldest symbols of mankind. Its Nazi links are only a minor speck in its very long existence. It is a symbol that deserves a better treatment from history"
 
The swastika styl symbol is pretty basic and wide spread its not exclusive to Natzi Germany. If you think about it the swastika is pretty unimaginative in design.
 
Circles are also unimaginitive, yet "cool".

However I don't think its cool what the swastika has come to mean.
 
ssj-hawk said:
"It seems as, after the Nazis appropriated the swastika and put it to their evil use, they contaminated this symbol forever. They have had the swastika hostage for more than 50 years. The swastika, most people believe, symbolizes Nazism and evil.

But the swastika had a long life before Hitler and the Nazis. It has been for centuries a symbol of peace, laughter, joy and good luck. It is one of the oldest symbols of mankind. Its Nazi links are only a minor speck in its very long existence. It is a symbol that deserves a better treatment from history"

as if you really give a shit about the swastika. if they hadnt used it then nobody would even know it existed. it doesnt really symbolize peace laughter and joy because when it did nobody gave a fuck about it. nobody fucking knew it meant that so it didnt mean it. now it has meaning. it has a real meaning and it isnt peace laughter and fucking joy. fagface.
 
sure it may stand for peace, but it's associated with evil. but if you want to walk around with a swastica on you go right ahead, it's a free country.
 
MoneyBags said:


as if you really give a shit about the swastika. if they hadnt used it then nobody would even know it existed. it doesnt really symbolize peace laughter and joy because when it did nobody gave a fuck about it. nobody fucking knew it meant that so it didnt mean it. now it has meaning. it has a real meaning and it isnt peace laughter and fucking joy. fagface.



hehe.. I love you man... you trip me up
 
I saw some show on TLC or Discovery Channel about the Nazis and mysticism. There were some weird dudes.. alot of their military planning at the end was based on reading of stars and all that. They also believed in the Middle Earth and runes and symbolism played a big role in the "religion" they were propagating.

I'm not saying that Nazis were good or anything close to that.. but it was sort of cool how they built all those monuments, paraded around as knights, and pimped that swaztika all over the place. I'm a sucker for good propaganda.
 
smallmovesal said:
the nazi swastika is flipped horizontally... so it's really not the same thing.

Thats a pretty subtle difference.. like the Apple logo with the "bite" taken out of the left side instead of the right.
 
well ask the nazis why they didn't draw little flowers on it too or paint it neon... i don't know why they just turned it the other way.
 
Some of you should do your research on this subject becuase you don't know what you are talking about :rolleyes:
 
smallmovesal said:
well ask the nazis why they didn't draw little flowers on it too or paint it neon... i don't know why they just turned it the other way.

Ok, I'll let you know what they tell me.
 
By the summer of 1920 the swastika was commonly used in Germany as the official symbol of the Nazi (short for Hitler's Nazional- socialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP) [National Socialist German Workers' Party]) party. Twenty five years later it became a symbol of shame and defeat for Germany. After its adoption by the Nazis, few other symbols in the history of mankind have become so widely associated with evil.

Most authors agree that it was Hitler himself who chose the swastika as a symbol of his Nazi movement. There is no agreement, however, about who influenced him into making such decision.

In Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler claimed that the form in which the Nazis used the swastika [1] was based on a design by Dr. Friedrich Krohn, a dentist who had belonged to several Völkisch [2] groups, including the Germanen Order. [3]

Krohn, a dentist from Starnberg, submitted his design of a flag which had been used at the founding meeting of his own party local: a swastika against a black-white-red background. The swastika, for long time a symbol of the Teutonic Knights, had been in use by Lanz von Liebenfels, [4] the Thule Society [5] and a number of Freikorps units.

Hitler gives his own account: "Actually, a dentist from Starnberg did deliver a design that was not bad after all, and, incidentally, was quite close to my own, having only the one fault that a swastika with curved legs was composed into a white disk." [6]

Krohn knew that the Buddhist destroverse or clockwise swastika symbolized good fortune and well being, and made his design accordingly, with the swastika's legs pointing to the left. [7]

The majority of the Nazi leaders accepted Krohn's design, but Hitler insisted on a sinistroverse or anti-clockwise one and changed the design accordingly, similar to the one on the right. [8]
 
Well, Sweetpie, you seem to be knowledgeable....fill us in then..

I think I posted that link.....
 
Couldn't do a better job then you mammakin. I was refering to the person that adresses people as "fagface"
 
and just for the hell of it here's more info:

The History of the Swastika
Symbols

The power of a symbol is much greater than a few, simple words. A symbol is a picture that represents or stands for something. It does not have to be accompanied by words, for it has meaning of its own. Symbols can also evoke emotions.


The Oldest Known Symbol

The swastika (
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) is an ancient symbol. Dating back 3,000 years, the swastika predates the ancient Egyptian symbol, the Ankh. Approximately 3,000 years ago (1000 BCE), the swastika was commonly used; swastikas have been found on many artifacts such as pottery and coins dating from ancient Troy.

During the following thousand years, the image of the swastika could be found in many cultures around the world, including in China, Japan, India, and southern Europe.

By the Middle Ages, the swastika was a well known, if not commonly used, symbol but was called by many different names:

China - wan
England - fylfot
Germany - Hakenkreuz
Greece - tetraskelion and gammadion
India - swastika
Though it is not known for exactly how long, Native Americans also had long used the symbol of the swastika.
The Original Meaning


The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix.

Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck.

Even in the early twentieth century, the swastika was still a symbol with positive connotations. For instance, the swastika was a common decoration that often adorned cigarette cases, postcards, coins, and buildings. During World War I, the swastika could even be found on the shoulder patches of the American 45th Division and on the Finnish air force until after World War II.

Change in Meaning


In the 1800s, countries around Germany were growing much larger, forming empires; yet Germany was not a unified country until 1871. To counter the feeling of vulnerability and the stigma of youth, German nationalists in the mid-nineteenth century began to use the swastika, because it had ancient Aryan/Indian origins, to represent a long Germanic/Aryan history.

By the end of the nineteenth century, the swastika could be found on nationalist German volkisch periodicals and was the official emblem of the German Gymnasts' League.

In the beginning of the twentieth century, the swastika was a common symbol of German nationalism and could be found in a multitude of places such as the emblem for the Wandervogel, a German youth movement; on Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels' antisemitic periodical Ostara; on various Freikorps units; and as an emblem of the Thule Society.

Hitler and the Nazis


In 1920, Adolf Hitler decided that the Nazi Party needed its own insignia and flag. For Hitler, the new flag had to be "a symbol of our own struggle" as well as "highly effective as a poster." (Mein Kampf, pg. 495)

On August 7, 1920, at the Salzburg Congress, this flag became the official emblem of the Nazi Party.

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In Mein Kampf, Hitler described the Nazis' new flag: "In red we see the social idea of the movement, in white the nationalistic idea, in the swastika the mission of the struggle for the victory of the Aryan man, and, by the same token, the victory of the idea of creative work, which as such always has been and always will be anti-Semitic." (pg. 496-497)

Because of the Nazis' flag, the swastika soon became a symbol of hate, antisemitism, violence, death, and murder.
 
Propaganda at its best.. in 20 years changing the meaning of a symbol that had been around for thousands of years.
 
J-DAM said:
Propaganda at its best.. in 20 years changing the meaning of a symbol that had been around for thousands of years.

not quite. if the nazis hadnt used it none of us would know it exists. who cares how long it has been around? the fact is until the nazis used it it wasnt shit. it only has one meaning and that is as a symbol of the nazis.
 
MoneyBags said:


not quite. if the nazis hadnt used it none of us would know it exists. who cares how long it has been around? the fact is until the nazis used it it wasnt shit. it only has one meaning and that is as a symbol of the nazis.

Maybe.. I'm not claiming that it was the most popular symbol in the world before WW2 and then the Nazis mangled its storied history.

I was just saying that Hitler pimped the swaztika so much that the symbol itself represented all the evil behind the Nazis, even though for thousands of years before that it stood for good. They actually used alot of symbols and runes and imagery besides the swastika, mainly because Hitler and his cronies had a hard-on for mythology and mysticism.. but the swastika was a big part in the overall brainwashing of the German people.
 
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