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Sustanon or Enanthate

Super Test 2004

Super Test 2004

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If you had the choice of running 500 mg of sustanon from tornel
each week or 500 mg of Enanthate from Orbit, which would you run?

I am going to run with 400mg deca a week also. Both would be for 9 -10 weeks.
 
i have heard good things about orbit and never once anything good about tornel
 
Is there a real difference in results with Enanthatte and sust?
I would not imagine that there is but am not experienced enough to make that call.
Anyone?
 
I've used the organon sust and I find that I make better gains off straight enanthate. Sust is also more painful than enanthate IMO.
 
I was going to say which ever is cheaper per mg, assuming both are dosed as labeled on the bottle. however n1tro brings up a good point. Some guys experience pain from injecting prop. Some experience more than others. This could be a factor unless you are one of us who does not have this problem.
 
I am more worried about getting the most out of my cycle. Pain should not be an issue, of course I say that now. What about 250mg Sust and 250mg Enanthate week?
Does this make sense.
 
I know the orbit enanthate is dosed at 250mg per ml and I bet you can get a better price on the orbit than the Tornel as well?! Correct me if I'm wrong, it's just the prices on the orbit gear are great.
 
Personally I would go with one or the other, I say this because if your going to do sust don't inject any less than 3 days apart.
 
Super Test 2004 said:
If I did Sust it would be the same frequency for injection. Every Monday and Thursday.
I already have both Enanthate and Sust on hand.
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So how much of each do you have? You said enough for 9 to 10 weeks, so you have 20mls of the orbit and 20 amps of sust on hand?
The sust being injected e3d will yield better reulsts due to the short acting esters in the test being injected more frequently.
 
I have 20mls of each.
I agree with the sust yeilding good results due to the long and short acting esters.
Would it be a bad thing to add a shot of 250mg/ml to the 500mg of sust?
Thanks nitro, karma to you.
 
I have experienced a lot less bloat on sustanon, as opposed to enanthate. Nitro's experience making better gains from enanthate may be due in part to slightly increased water retention as opposed to sustanon. Both are great choices. I wouldn't mentally masturbate yourself to death on which one you should use. Just eat, train, and grow. Enjoy your cycle. It sounds like you have your cycle planned out fairly well. Are you planning on using Arimidex, or Nolvadex during your cycle?
 
marshallmadman said:
I have experienced a lot less bloat on sustanon, as opposed to enanthate. Nitro's experience making better gains from enanthate may be due in part to slightly increased water retention as opposed to sustanon. Both are great choices. I wouldn't mentally masturbate yourself to death on which one you should use. Just eat, train, and grow. Enjoy your cycle. It sounds like you have your cycle planned out fairly well. Are you planning on using Arimidex, or Nolvadex during your cycle?
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I have Nolvadex on hand in case of any additional bloat.
I will be running sust 500mg week for 9 weeks along with
Deca 400mg week for 9 weeks.
PCT, HCH and clomid.
Had everything covered, just needed to ask for that little bit of information.

Thanks for the information marshallmadman.
 
If you want the most out of your cycle, I recommend going with a human grade test such as Organon, or Testoviron...i've been hearing good things about Orbit's products, i've never been a big fan of Tornel's however..
 
flex2win said:
If you want the most out of your cycle, I recommend going with a human grade test such as Organon, or Testoviron...i've been hearing good things about Orbit's products, i've never been a big fan of Tornel's however..
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Have you used Tornel's test before.
 
I believe so once, when i was using Spectro's enanthate, had to sub it in until i got more, definitely noticed a difference in the gym, could have been bunk also...
 
I have not used the 2 brands you have.However I have used organon sust 250 from karachi and Testoviron ethanate 250's from italy and I ran the sust at 750 mgs per week and the Testoviron at 500 mgs per week.Both were ran for 10 weeks and not stacked with anything.I noticed better gains and more strength from the ethanate.
 
randyjones said:
I have not used the 2 brands you have.However I have used organon sust 250 from karachi and Testoviron ethanate 250's from italy and I ran the sust at 750 mgs per week and the Testoviron at 500 mgs per week.Both were ran for 10 weeks and not stacked with anything.I noticed better gains and more strength from the ethanate.
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Don't forget that testoviron has prop in it as well.
 
I would use Orbit over Tornell, no questions asked. I would use pretty much anything or any other vet gear over Tornell. But ... I would use Sust over enanthate, so I guess that I dont help you out to much.

Go with human grade sustanon or omnadren for best results. Definately more painfull than enanthate though.
 
n1tro said:
Don't forget that testoviron has prop in it as well.
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yes ... find out which it is if you are going to run these...

Testoviron Depot = 250mgs enanthate
Testoviron = 200mgs enanthate 50mgs prop

I would just go with sust insted of testoviron and get the full ester mix if you are going to be mixing them anyways.
 
Super Test 2004 said:
What do you mean? Is it weak or underdosed.
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i took some tornel sust and gained every bit of a wopping 5 lbs. and two of my friends got bottles from the same batch and they didnt gain anything either. it could have been bunk but, all i've heard about tornel is its dirty. they once found a pubic hair in one of their vials.
 
hands down orbit
 
Super Test 2004 said:
If I did Sust it would be the same frequency for injection. Every Monday and Thursday.
I already have both Enanthate and Sust on hand.
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Actually you should inject the enanthate on the monday/thursday schedule too. 2x a week for it is better.

And 9-10 weeks is not that long to be running deca for. I would extend the cycle to 12 wks.
 
testoviron schering human grade stuff is best.I'll be using it march post results .....1st cycle was sust gained 13lbs 8wks 250mg a wk but lost almost everything now.going 2 bump it up to 500mg mon/thur and dbol.
 
Eth is much easlier to inject(ouch the soreness) than sustanon. They are both powerful and each has it's own special quality. Sus has prop and thus kicks in a little faster and may be cause less water retention but the prop is where you get the soreness from. I peronally like eth, just due the power but do not go near OMNADREN that shit is aweful, the worst crash I ever had. I am not sure if I would run them both, actually I know I would not. Save one for the NEXT cycle you have. Go now with some Deca or Dbol(if you can get it) with whichever one you use now. I just would not waste my money and do them both, each one is similar and powerful enough in it's own right. GREAT CHOICES MAKE LIFE INTERESTING...........
 
I got on a cut up diet and using 250/500 mg sustanon. 2 tablets of proviron everyday. do you think it is enough to cut up, should I get on the winstrol also?

thanks
 
n1tro said:
I meant inject the sust with 3 day intervals being the longest break between injections. You know what I mean.
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I've only been using it (sust) once a week, along with 25mg ed d-bol and 20mg ed winny and the results are damn good (after 6 weeks of sust, 5 weeks of dbol and 4 weeks of winny). Don't get me wrong, I'm not a freak but that's not what I was looking for either.
 
Mavy said:
yes ... find out which it is if you are going to run these...

Testoviron Depot = 250mgs enanthate
Testoviron = 200mgs enanthate 50mgs prop

I would just go with sust insted of testoviron and get the full ester mix if you are going to be mixing them anyways.
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I thought it was the Primotestons that were 200mg enanthate and 50mg prop?
 
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