sustanon/deca cycle

[meats]

Hi! I'm looking for some advice on a sustanon and deca cycle. I'm 39, 5'9", 173 lbs. I've only done 2 cycles using test enth. and some tabs of which I don't remember what they were but those cycles were about 5 years ago. I've been training off and on for maybe 15 years. I've been using weight gainer, protein, glutamine and creatine. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Meats

 

[Paulos]

Sustanon @ 500mg/Wk Weeks 1-10
Deca @ 300mg/Wk Weeks 1-10

Simple. I'd use HCG to come off too.

 

[faller]

Maybe the first question is with your training "on and off"- how long have you been training consistantly as of now? Also, you seem pretty light for 5'9", give us a sample day of what you eat. Maybe do the same for workouts also. I'm not sure gear is a good idea at this point.

 

[Wrongun]

Ok for an 8 week mass cycle:

Wks 1-4 Dbol @ 35mg ED
Wks 1-8 Sus @ 500mg EW
Wks 1-8 Decca @ 400mg EW

Here the Decca should be 400mg for optimum effects, and the Dianabol at the onset helps kick start the cycle while you are waiting for the longer acting Deca and test to take effect.
Nolvadex should be on hand in case symptoms of aromatisation become apparent. Clomid should be used post cycle commencing at 14 -- 21 days after your last Decca jab. Preferred dosages are 300mg day 1, 100mg next 10 days and 50mg last 10 days (21 days in total). You may hold a lot of water from this brought about by the Dianabol and the testosterone but this can be reduced by the use of Nolvadex / Tamoxifen at 10mg ED
The dosage of Dianabol may be divided out through out the day and taken every 3-4 hrs as it has such a short half-life.
The SUS and the Deca can be split down into 3 shots per week: 250mg of test (1ml) plus 100mg of Deca (1ml) mixed into the same syringe, and another of 200mg of Deca (2ml).

Wrongun!

 

[flex2win]

Wrongun has got your back on this one...i ran a cycle like this except i ran deca @200mgs/wk and blew up!!

 

[evander1972]

You may hold a lot of water from this brought about by the Dianabol and the testosterone but this can be reduced by the use of Nolvadex / Tamoxifen at 10mg ED


Wrongun!

I thought nolvadex just blocked the estrogen receptor making it inefective at combating water/ret but good for stoping gyno. I was told that you needed to stop estrogen production by using liquidex/proviron to combat water/ret. Can someone set me right because ive got nolvadex sitting and if it reduces water retention Ill start taking it. Cheers

 

[tack]

what is your bf %? If you have a build like mine/metabo like mine then 173 isn't too light.

some of these guys think that if you don't weigh what they do, you ain't ready for gear...

i wouldn't use deca at all. stick with test

 

[meats]

more "me" info

I've been back at it for about 2 months. I had been away from training for 2 years prior. I am a very hard gainer with a metabolism through the roof. I ate pure crap and alot of it for the 2 years I was away from training and gained only a few pounds as far as the scale goes. I actually traded some muscle for fat but considering what I was eating and how much exercise I was getting I should have weighed 300 lbs.! I ingest so much now in solids and supplemental gainer that I full to the gills alot of the time. I sure appreciate the help kindness of the people on this site toward a relative newbi.
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[Wrongun]

I thought nolvadex just blocked the estrogen receptor making it inefective at combating water/ret but good for stoping gyno. I was told that you needed to stop estrogen production by using liquidex/proviron to combat water/ret. Can someone set me right because ive got nolvadex sitting and if it reduces water retention Ill start taking it. Cheers

Nolva does reduce water retention. Take 10mg - 20mg ED

Wrongun!

 

[evander1972]

Cool Cheers