Sustanon 250 or 500 for beginner

[f4209211]

I was talking to this guy in the gym today who's real juice veteran and told him about my cycle 250 SUS and 200 DECA a week. He told me that i should up my SUS to 500 as 250 is way too low and if i wanted to i could drop the DECA as well.

When i asked him what he was on. He said he does feel a thing unless he shoot SUS 1000 a week. What do you guys think, Is 500 SUS a week for a first time too much or acceptable

 

[SuKY_GeNeTiCs]

I am proof that 250 sust/wk and 200 deca/wk can be enough. I gained 30lbs as my cycle is just winding down now.

You should list your stats height/weight/age for help. I think most people will tell you to use atleast 300-400mg deca/wk and some will say run sust at 500 but that is a good beginners cycle.

 

[Mike P.T.]

It's acceptable but you could start off with 250 a week alone even and make good gains. Even 250mg sus a week along with 200mg deca a week is a good start. No need to boatload off the bat bro. Alot of it depends on genetics, the way you eat, train and rest as well.

 

[The Terminator]

My first was sustanon 500 mg/week and it was really good. Just remember the drugs only play a small role its the diet that makes or breaks your cycle.

 

[f4209211]

I'm 28, 5'9' weigh 200 pounds with around 15% BF

 

[The Terminator]

I like the sust. without the deca, then when you grow like a weed you will develop a fondness for test, thus including it in every cycle you ever use again, or maybe you hate its side effects and never use it again, but you will know what pos. and neg. effects it has on you without having to guess whether it was the deca or the test that did this or that to you.

 

[aggro]

not sure of your goals but at 200 lbs and first cycle i would do the followig: wks 1-8 500 sust, wks 4-12 300 deca , end of week 8 drop calories start to try and lose some bf that was accumulated from 8 week sust, deca will aid with fatloss and help maintain muscle and hardness, keep in mind its ok to take it week to week and go by how you feel with your results at any given time, then decide wether you need more or less

 

[Canuck4]

For a first time user 500mg of Sus for 10 weeks is good.
Drop the Deca and do the clomid 3 weeks after last injection.

 

[SmooThy5464]

i say 500 mg sust and 400 mg deca but its up to u man...

 

[Greek Freak]

i say 500 mg sust and 400 mg deca but its up to u man...

You dont need much your first time around to gain like crazy...save the heavier cycles for when you need them. Just go with 500 mgs/wk of test and you should see good results.

 

[nuh_mizer]

I wouldn't use sust for my first cycle. I'd stick with enanth or cyp.

 

[bebaumax]

I wouldn't use sust for my first cycle. I'd stick with enanth or cyp.

This is like saying I would use Durabolin, I'd stick with Deca. It's the same damn thing, dude, just different release times.
-B

 

[Canuck4]

I wouldn't use sust for my first cycle. I'd stick with enanth or cyp.

Test is test bro.
I used Sus for my first cycle. Had great results and no sides.

 

[Dynamo]

Did my first cycle earlier this year and used 20mg dbol weeks 1-6 and 250 omna(sus) weeks 1-10 and put on over 20lbs with decent strength gains. Good training and diet go a long way to success, if you don't have that then don't expect to find it in a bottle.

 

[genarr3]

There are some really stupid replies on this thread. Be careful who you listen to.

Do what MikePT says, I agree with him completely.

 

[Q8TY]

How About this cycle

Week 1: 250sustanon + deca 200
Week 2: 250sustanon + deca 200
Week 3: 500sustanon + deca 300
Week 4: 500sustanon + deca 300
Week 5: 250sustanon + deca 200
Week 6: 250sustanon + deca 200

Week 7: HCG 5000 i.U
Week 8: Clomid 100
Week 9: Clomid 50
Week 10: Clomid 100

Week 11: Start any prohormone + creatine + glutamin

 

[Mike P.T.]

How About this cycle

Week 1: 250sustanon + deca 200
Week 2: 250sustanon + deca 200
Week 3: 500sustanon + deca 300
Week 4: 500sustanon + deca 300
Week 5: 250sustanon + deca 200
Week 6: 250sustanon + deca 200

Week 7: HCG 5000 i.U
Week 8: Clomid 100
Week 9: Clomid 50
Week 10: Clomid 100

Week 11: Start any prohormone + creatine + glutamin

How about ummmm..... NO!

First of all tapering of drugs is a thing of the past.(all in just 6 weeks too??) Secondly 5000iu shot for week 7 and that's it?? You don't even need it for this cycle. Third why the tapering of the clomid up and down? Makes no sense. Lastly pro-hormones are a fucked up idea because pro-hormones will still shut you down. Not flaming you bro but your advice isn't really that good.

 

[Canuck4]

How About this cycle

Week 1: 250sustanon + deca 200
Week 2: 250sustanon + deca 200
Week 3: 500sustanon + deca 300
Week 4: 500sustanon + deca 300
Week 5: 250sustanon + deca 200
Week 6: 250sustanon + deca 200

Week 7: HCG 5000 i.U
Week 8: Clomid 100
Week 9: Clomid 50
Week 10: Clomid 100

Week 11: Start any prohormone + creatine + glutamin

Bad suggestion.
Sus and Deca are both slow acting.
They wont kick in till late week 4.
Then you stop a week later.
Also the ups and downs suck.

 

[nuh_mizer]

This is like saying I would use Durabolin, I'd stick with Deca. It's the same damn thing, dude, just different release times.
-B

2 esters in sust are out in 1-2 days. If he's only injecting once a week it's like injecting 90 mgs of prop once a week and 160 mgs enanth a week. Would you inject prop once a week?

 

[genarr3]

How about ummmm..... NO!

First of all tapering of drugs is a thing of the past.(all in just 6 weeks too??) Secondly 5000iu shot for week 7 and that's it?? You don't even need it for this cycle. Third why the tapering of the clomid up and down? Makes no sense. Lastly pro-hormones are a fucked up idea because pro-hormones will still shut you down. Not flaming you bro but your advice isn't really that good.

Check my above post. There seems to be a major brain drain on this board.

 

[BrickGirl]

geez, no wonder people are only weighing 200lbs and taking over a gram of shit a week. Insanity. You should start off as low as possible, 200mg or 250 if you are using sustanon would be ideal, no need to stack even deca with it. BE SMART, GO SLOW you will grow just as fast, but when you get bigger, you will still have ammo as in raising the dose just a little to make more gains with. Use your brains people

 

[Mike P.T.]

Check my above post. There seems to be a major brain drain on this board.

I here ya bro.

BTW - you can use sus it doesn't matter. They all reach similar concentrations in the blood after several repeated injections anyway. Not a big difference at all.

 

[Aikido]

MikePT and Genarr3 are on the ball and I agree. I did 250 mg per week for 8 weeks and I got great results. I should of had a better diet but it still worked well for me.

BrickGirl makes a lot of sense. Don't overload your body with too much in the beginning. As you body adjusts and when you're in future cycles you'll need more juice. Shit, if you take 500mg now then you'll eventually more than that in future cycles of test to get similar results. Start slow and see how your body reacts first. Diet is #1, workout #2, sleep #3 and gear is 4 in my book.

Good luck and stay smart.

Aikido

 

[liquidmuscle]

my VERY first cycle was only 250mgs of sust a wk and 300mgs of deca a wk for 8wks and i gained 25lbs lost 5

 

[N_F_C]

hey....

If you shot 250mg of sust every 4 days would this be clasified as 500mg a week or 375mg?

 

[RABS]

500. Nuff said !!

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

You may as well just do 250mg of Sus/Enanthate/Cypionate (no not all at one... Pick one...) run it for 8 to 10 weeks, and follow up with clomid... you shouldn't need 500mg/week at 200lbs, and a first cycle...

a guy I know did 250/week for 8 weeks... he trained natural, and competed in the juniors when he was younger... this guy was On... about 5'5 150 cut, and he went up to a bulky 189... no shit... didn't gain that much fat either...

Use the KISS theory for now, and see how you do...

S.

 

[grafix-GNC]

its hard to mantain constant blood levels with sust

 

[Texas Ranger]

Up for newbies....