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Ya, I used sustain for PCT, orbit and rls sell it.. It is great stuff!!! Never PCT without it.
many many still use it for pct or off cycle use...its just that pp dont sponsor on here thats why its never mentioned.best otc supp ive tried ...
needtogetaas
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The Trasdermal version is the only Version that is worth a damn. Sustain alpha transdermal is a great product that I have always supported. In fact I was the first person ( besides the owner) to advocate its use. PP is no longer a sponsor here but just for information sake I will indulge for a moment. Elitefitness.com is where Primordial got its start and this very forum was the foundation which helped them build all that they are. It saddens me that they are to proud to admit this.
PP started out 5 years ago with "1 product" Dermacrine. A transdermal testosterone boosting compound with many other benefits ranging from enhanced mood to accelerated fat loss through cortisol blocking. It can be used to counteract side effects of all kinds from many different steroidal compounds. Anxiety from eq,Lethargy from androgenic compounds like superderol/beastdrol, Minor depression caused my clomid or nolva, in place of injecting test on a all oral cycle and so many different ways to use the product I could go on for days. WHY CAN I DO THIS?
Well because some of the very first threads and post about the product to date where made by me. I helped bring this product to the forefront of the industry and with that a new enlightenment on the topic of transdermal delivery as well. A once unconventional and rejected method of drug and supplement administration in this industry is now widely excepted and more importantly understood. Although Dermacrine was not the first topically applied product elitefitness has seen it is however the product that shock waved throughout the industry. Everyone who was anyone on this forum in 2007 new Dermacrine and they knew about it because "I" was there every second of the day putting it in there faces. Explaining how it works, sharing knowledge on its mechanisms of action and even discovery many of its positive attributes long before " ANYONE!!! and I mean ANYONE!!"
Think of anything you know of that the product can do. Think of all of the ways it works and then do google searches on that topic or elitefitness searches on it. You will find threads and post by me that pre date "ANYONE ELSE'S" covering the same topic. Not every aspect but a lot of them.
I was impressed by the product 45 mins after my very first application and have been ever since. Not only because of the way I felt but because I was the first ever to lay eyes on my very own test results^^ showing me
for my self that it worked. Doubling my testosterone levels, tripling my DHEA levels all well lowering estrogen levels! I fought wars over this product, I spent hours of my life focused on this very product, Because I believed in this product and that is what I do when I know something is worth it. When I know it can help others out there with a need they may have.
Although the starting years I was ridiculed, attacked, called every name in the book, and made fun off for my undying support of this product. To the point of accusations of having monetary ties to the product or part/full ownership in the company. Many people ( Not on ef but other sites) who work for the pp company have the audacity talk shit to me or about me? They just don't know and maybe they should ask somebody!
Regardless of this I have always respected Eric the owner off pp. I understand what its like to not have eyes and ears enough to spread the world over and keep a lid on everything reps have to say lol..
Anyway I bet there ain't a single person here that still remembers what sustain alpha was at first? Or what Dermacrine was marketed as first? Why sustain was created or even the fact that Dermacrine was first and sustain alpha was second. Or how about the original name name of sustain alpha? Anyone remember that sustain alpha was first named Dermacrine sustain? Then I do believe it was named Alpha sustain, then Just sustain before settling on sustain alpha. Mite be mistaken on the last few but I do know it was first called Dermacrine sustain lol.. And that Dermacrine was first marketed as a sole pct product to replace clomid and or nolvadex. I got the Original Product release thread for both product in the recycling been book marked too.
The formulation on the sustain alpha has changed and has been enhanced a few different ways since its creation but IMO forma-stanzol has perfected the Idea https://www.mrsupps.com/Product-Forma-Stanzol_26.aspx using some of the same ingredents used in sustain alpha now, some once used in the older version, and then added compounds like formastain/letheron-Tm and ingredients like horse chestnut seed extract. Further compounded by the fact that you can get a 2 month supply of forma-stanzol for less then the price of a 1 month supply of sustain. Although I do feel forma-stanzol is a better option in most cases I still support the use of sustain alpha and even sell the product here at my other supplement company Sustain Alpha and many of you got the mass pm sent out from my account here on elite about a pct stack using this product. Stacks :: PCT Stack - Ruthless Supplements
So no sustain has not been forgotten and no we are not in the habit of forcing people to forget about a good product if its worth anything. Its just s imple fact that although its a great product for a lot of cases there is now better. However this all depends on different factors. I also think that pp has put less focus on transdermal sustain and all of there past trasdermal products for that matter. They have focused more on there LV line. But let me make this clear, We are not going to have a debate about weather oral dermacrine or sustain work as good as there topical counterparts here. I sold it for a wile and because of my return policy as seen here Shipping & Returns i was forced to drop the product because I had a 5 out of 10 return rate or grater at times. This is not to say the product does not work. It is however just the facts! This prob has to do with the fact that here on elite everyone at the time had used the transdermal version and many of the customers buying the new lv version off my site had expectations that were not met. Expectations that the LV versions were going to give them the same results/feeling/what have you "or better" as often advertised and simple put that was quickly rejected by most if not all of the original product version users.
More then likely due to the fact that many of the ingredients ( fancy write ups, graphs, sale pitches notwithstanding) just proved more effective trans dermal then oral. Both in common layman's research and more importantly where the rubber meets the rode "user's experiences" . Everything has a happy ending here on ef though...
Rlssupplements is the only place you can get the Original Transdermal Dermacrin Dermacrine and we also carry the sustain alpha transdermal for people who like sustain. So support the sponsors of this site since we help keep the site going, sponsor all the contest here, do all the free give aways here. Because we invest all of our time into the site and its members.
Because We are the ones who support this site and in turn we fully support the membership of this site. See here on ef we support the sponsors and we respect them. I say this not because I am a sponsor but because that is the way we have made this site for years now. We have always supported the good sponsors and ignored the shitty ones until they go away.
The membership of elitefitness has a high high standard. A cheap price tag is on our list when shopping but its not at the top and not always even in the top few. A good product, a outstanding above the industry standard customer service, and a company that supports our site and our family here on elite. That is what tops the list here on elitefitness and has for years now. The sponsors here are good to us am I right guys? The sponsors for many years have treated us damn good around EF and the leadership of this forum has done a great job of helping this happen as well. The leadership is always always there to stand in the gap "On behalf of the embers first" to insure members are always taken care of. We trust our leaders and we trust our sponsors. We support our leaders and we support our sponsors!!! Always have and always will.
But 49.99-5.00 discount code (ruthless10) and 2-3day shipping=40.00 a bottle for sustain alpha. Backed up by the best customer service you will ever find in this entire industry and the fact that rls is prob the only site you can order the product from and get a refund if you are not happy ( even after you used the product) and I think that makes it the best bargain you could ever find on the product.
Transdermal Dermacrine is one of the greatest supplements ever created and I have stood firm to this since day one. That is Exactly why I could not allow the product to be discontinued. I had to save this product and insure it lived on because I strongly Believe in it and always have. I did not have to do this and could have easily created my own version. Or even let it slip into the past memories of everyone, but I choice to stand by what I have always stood by to the very end for as long as I can. Sustain Alpha <---- if you have never used this product my friends I promise you this is one product that is well worth giving a shot. Pm me for any kind of advice or information about the product and all its uses. As always I am always here 24/7 to help all of you with anything you may need help with.
PP started out 5 years ago with "1 product" Dermacrine. A transdermal testosterone boosting compound with many other benefits ranging from enhanced mood to accelerated fat loss through cortisol blocking. It can be used to counteract side effects of all kinds from many different steroidal compounds. Anxiety from eq,Lethargy from androgenic compounds like superderol/beastdrol, Minor depression caused my clomid or nolva, in place of injecting test on a all oral cycle and so many different ways to use the product I could go on for days. WHY CAN I DO THIS?
Well because some of the very first threads and post about the product to date where made by me. I helped bring this product to the forefront of the industry and with that a new enlightenment on the topic of transdermal delivery as well. A once unconventional and rejected method of drug and supplement administration in this industry is now widely excepted and more importantly understood. Although Dermacrine was not the first topically applied product elitefitness has seen it is however the product that shock waved throughout the industry. Everyone who was anyone on this forum in 2007 new Dermacrine and they knew about it because "I" was there every second of the day putting it in there faces. Explaining how it works, sharing knowledge on its mechanisms of action and even discovery many of its positive attributes long before " ANYONE!!! and I mean ANYONE!!"
Think of anything you know of that the product can do. Think of all of the ways it works and then do google searches on that topic or elitefitness searches on it. You will find threads and post by me that pre date "ANYONE ELSE'S" covering the same topic. Not every aspect but a lot of them.
I was impressed by the product 45 mins after my very first application and have been ever since. Not only because of the way I felt but because I was the first ever to lay eyes on my very own test results^^ showing me
for my self that it worked. Doubling my testosterone levels, tripling my DHEA levels all well lowering estrogen levels! I fought wars over this product, I spent hours of my life focused on this very product, Because I believed in this product and that is what I do when I know something is worth it. When I know it can help others out there with a need they may have.
Although the starting years I was ridiculed, attacked, called every name in the book, and made fun off for my undying support of this product. To the point of accusations of having monetary ties to the product or part/full ownership in the company. Many people ( Not on ef but other sites) who work for the pp company have the audacity talk shit to me or about me? They just don't know and maybe they should ask somebody!
Regardless of this I have always respected Eric the owner off pp. I understand what its like to not have eyes and ears enough to spread the world over and keep a lid on everything reps have to say lol..
Anyway I bet there ain't a single person here that still remembers what sustain alpha was at first? Or what Dermacrine was marketed as first? Why sustain was created or even the fact that Dermacrine was first and sustain alpha was second. Or how about the original name name of sustain alpha? Anyone remember that sustain alpha was first named Dermacrine sustain? Then I do believe it was named Alpha sustain, then Just sustain before settling on sustain alpha. Mite be mistaken on the last few but I do know it was first called Dermacrine sustain lol.. And that Dermacrine was first marketed as a sole pct product to replace clomid and or nolvadex. I got the Original Product release thread for both product in the recycling been book marked too.
The formulation on the sustain alpha has changed and has been enhanced a few different ways since its creation but IMO forma-stanzol has perfected the Idea https://www.mrsupps.com/Product-Forma-Stanzol_26.aspx using some of the same ingredents used in sustain alpha now, some once used in the older version, and then added compounds like formastain/letheron-Tm and ingredients like horse chestnut seed extract. Further compounded by the fact that you can get a 2 month supply of forma-stanzol for less then the price of a 1 month supply of sustain. Although I do feel forma-stanzol is a better option in most cases I still support the use of sustain alpha and even sell the product here at my other supplement company Sustain Alpha and many of you got the mass pm sent out from my account here on elite about a pct stack using this product. Stacks :: PCT Stack - Ruthless Supplements
So no sustain has not been forgotten and no we are not in the habit of forcing people to forget about a good product if its worth anything. Its just s imple fact that although its a great product for a lot of cases there is now better. However this all depends on different factors. I also think that pp has put less focus on transdermal sustain and all of there past trasdermal products for that matter. They have focused more on there LV line. But let me make this clear, We are not going to have a debate about weather oral dermacrine or sustain work as good as there topical counterparts here. I sold it for a wile and because of my return policy as seen here Shipping & Returns i was forced to drop the product because I had a 5 out of 10 return rate or grater at times. This is not to say the product does not work. It is however just the facts! This prob has to do with the fact that here on elite everyone at the time had used the transdermal version and many of the customers buying the new lv version off my site had expectations that were not met. Expectations that the LV versions were going to give them the same results/feeling/what have you "or better" as often advertised and simple put that was quickly rejected by most if not all of the original product version users.
More then likely due to the fact that many of the ingredients ( fancy write ups, graphs, sale pitches notwithstanding) just proved more effective trans dermal then oral. Both in common layman's research and more importantly where the rubber meets the rode "user's experiences" . Everything has a happy ending here on ef though...
Rlssupplements is the only place you can get the Original Transdermal Dermacrin Dermacrine and we also carry the sustain alpha transdermal for people who like sustain. So support the sponsors of this site since we help keep the site going, sponsor all the contest here, do all the free give aways here. Because we invest all of our time into the site and its members.
Because We are the ones who support this site and in turn we fully support the membership of this site. See here on ef we support the sponsors and we respect them. I say this not because I am a sponsor but because that is the way we have made this site for years now. We have always supported the good sponsors and ignored the shitty ones until they go away.
The membership of elitefitness has a high high standard. A cheap price tag is on our list when shopping but its not at the top and not always even in the top few. A good product, a outstanding above the industry standard customer service, and a company that supports our site and our family here on elite. That is what tops the list here on elitefitness and has for years now. The sponsors here are good to us am I right guys? The sponsors for many years have treated us damn good around EF and the leadership of this forum has done a great job of helping this happen as well. The leadership is always always there to stand in the gap "On behalf of the embers first" to insure members are always taken care of. We trust our leaders and we trust our sponsors. We support our leaders and we support our sponsors!!! Always have and always will.
But 49.99-5.00 discount code (ruthless10) and 2-3day shipping=40.00 a bottle for sustain alpha. Backed up by the best customer service you will ever find in this entire industry and the fact that rls is prob the only site you can order the product from and get a refund if you are not happy ( even after you used the product) and I think that makes it the best bargain you could ever find on the product.
Transdermal Dermacrine is one of the greatest supplements ever created and I have stood firm to this since day one. That is Exactly why I could not allow the product to be discontinued. I had to save this product and insure it lived on because I strongly Believe in it and always have. I did not have to do this and could have easily created my own version. Or even let it slip into the past memories of everyone, but I choice to stand by what I have always stood by to the very end for as long as I can. Sustain Alpha <---- if you have never used this product my friends I promise you this is one product that is well worth giving a shot. Pm me for any kind of advice or information about the product and all its uses. As always I am always here 24/7 to help all of you with anything you may need help with.
C0LUMB0
Moderator
WOW ! Good post needto....makes for some very interesting reading for sure.
I still have a couple of tubes of sustain alpha which i put to one side when i snapped up some of the first bottles of forma stanzol to hit the market.
TBH i prefer the forma because its more potent and requires a smaller dose.
Thanks for the help with that cycle aswell bro.
I still have a couple of tubes of sustain alpha which i put to one side when i snapped up some of the first bottles of forma stanzol to hit the market.
TBH i prefer the forma because its more potent and requires a smaller dose.
Thanks for the help with that cycle aswell bro.
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lartinos
Guest
I like it. Try it and report back.
Transdermal all the way.
i love sustain and dermacrine trans..the lv is shit......i also asked a simple question about there products being way behind ntbm supps..and they slated and ridiculed everything and everyone here AT ELITE..CALLING IT A PLACE FULL OF NTBM REPS.. I personally think pp forum is full of wannabee 150lb failed chemical students.....
needtogetaas
New member
Well will leave the whole subject alone form here on out. I like to take the high road and just ignore the Hating, shit talking, and girlish drama. If they have nothing good to say I have nothing at all to say in return. What would be the point? Very little time for that crap in my life lolol... Very very rarely will you catch me engaged in these kinds of conversations on topics like that.
Haters going to hate and nothing I can do to stop it. I like to spend my time focused on reaching as many people as I can each day and helping each and every one of them to the best of my audibility. The rest of my time I spend taking care of the good peeps of ef and then my loyal customers and fans. Who know what its really all about! They know who treats them good and it ain't the guy wasting his time talking shit all day.
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