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Sust & DBol 1st cycle

olbuddyweiser08

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I am planning my 1st cycle to begin in a few weeks. After doing some more research on this and other sites I have decided on Sust and Dbol for 12 weeks. I am planning on running Nolvadex as my PCT starting 3 weeks after my last injection. Is 30mgs for 3 weeks enough? Thank you in advance Bros!
 
olbuddyweiser08 said:
I am planning my 1st cycle to begin in a few weeks. After doing some more research on this and other sites I have decided on Sust and Dbol for 12 weeks. I am planning on running Nolvadex as my PCT starting 3 weeks after my last injection. Is 30mgs for 3 weeks enough? Thank you in advance Bros!

Stop the dBol after 4 weeks..:worried:

PCT (starting 1 week after the last Sust shot!)

HCG : 1000NE Mon, Wed, Fri for 3 weeks
Nolva: 20mg/ED for 5 weeks
 
collateral said:
Stop the dBol after 4 weeks..:worried:

PCT (starting 1 week after the last Sust shot!)

HCG : 1000NE Mon, Wed, Fri for 3 weeks
Nolva: 20mg/ED for 5 weeks


Yeah def. man...I wasnt planning on taking the DBol for more than 4 weeks....sorry for the confusion and thanks for the advice! K to you!
 
collateral said:
PCT (starting 1 week after the last Sust shot!)


And from all the research I have done PCT should be started about 3 weeks or 21 days after my last sust shot because that is how long it stays active...correct?
 
olbuddyweiser08 said:
collateral said:
PCT (starting 1 week after the last Sust shot!)


And from all the research I have done PCT should be started about 3 weeks or 21 days after my last sust shot because that is how long it stays active...correct?


I don't think so.
I took Jenetic's advice and worked for me, however due to other circumstances I had to start the HCG 10 days after the last shot but I felt it was a bit late.

Here is his post from an old thread (sust250 PCT?)

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Jenetic 26-Oct-2004 08:06 AM
Re: sust250 PCT?

First, have blood work performed to establish baseline values. This will be very uselful later on in regards to evaluating your recovery amongst many other things.

250 mgs EW is definitely on the safe side. Nothing wrong with that at all.

I usually recommend the following.

A combination of 500 mgs testosterone per week, 0.5-1 mg Arimidex ED and 0.5 mg Finasteride ED for a total of 8 weeks should provide you optimal anabolic/androgenic benefits while minimizing estrogen and DHT related side effects.

In regards to estrogen management, a combination of a Arimidex and Nolvadex may provide an interesting alternative as the lower dosage of Arimidex (0.5 mgs ED) combined with a low dosage of Nolvadex (10 mgs ED) should equate to less of an overall decrease in total estrogen, protection specifically at the receptor site and less of an impact on the lipid profile.

Finasteride prevents the metabolism of DHT via the 5AR. This will minimize DHT related side effects such as hair loss and acne. Also, it will keep the prostate healthy. A dosage of 0.5 mg ED should be sufficient without affecting libido and strength on a 500 mg Testosterone cycle.

Begin PCT one week after your last injection and it should consist of 1000 IU's HCG 3x/wk (mon/wed/fri) in combination with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED for a total of 3 weeks. After, discontinue HCG and continue with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED for an additional 2-3 weeks. Testicular volume is normalized during the first three weeks and pituitarty LH secretion is sustained during the following 2-3 weeks. Complete your recovery process with blood work. This is necessary in order to evaluate your recovery.

Why HCG? Why begin PCT 1 week after last injection?

There is nothing more effective than HCG in regards to restoring endogenous testosterone production, spermatogenesis and testicular volume. The action of HCG is virtually identical to that of pituitary LH. It stimulates production of gonadal steroid hormones by stimulating the Leydig cells of the testis to produce testosterone. This occurs independantly and is not affected by exogenous hormones and preexisting HPTA suppresion.

The elevated androgen levels are from an exogenous source and your endogenous production is suppressed. Therefore, waiting for the exogenous androgens to clear from your system completely ultimately results in lower total concentrations of androgens in your system when begining PCT. Regardless, LH secretion will begin to increase as the exogenous hormones diminish.

Jenetic
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