Sust 250 no More?

[2evil]

Long ago I was planning to do my first cycle ever (30 yo at the time, now 33) with a core of Sust 250 and Decca. At that time Sust seemed to be one of the drugs of choice. Now I come back a couple years later and nobody is really talking about it.

My plan now is to continue training naturally until fall and start a cycle then, doing as much research as possible.

Are the readyjects still around? Thanks.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Sustanon is well still around mate, just read through he posts. Personally I prefer enanthate but don't have a choice right now so it is sustanon I am going after. At the end of the day test is test is test (minus the weight of the ester).

 

[2evil]

Guess I was used to every other thread being a Sust thread. Is the prevailing wisdom now days that there's little advantage to the blend in Sustanon? Test E pretty much just as good for the beginner?

 

[Greatercow]

test E for 8 to 10 weeks 250mg/week seems to be the most popular choice for begginers

 

[GUARDIAN]

Guess I was used to every other thread being a Sust thread. Is the prevailing wisdom now days that there's little advantage to the blend in Sustanon? Test E pretty much just as good for the beginner?

that or test/C.

if u r wanting to do a really short cycle, i.e. 6 weeks go with test/p.

 

[kidd73]

that or test/C.

if u r wanting to do a really short cycle, i.e. 6 weeks go with test/p.

I prefer test prop for regular (12 week) cycles as well. More injects, but less bloat & water retention. Just my .02

 

[Mavafanculo]

the reason I like sust, is if working out say 3 times a week, you can inject on workout days and get the extra androgen boost from the shorter esters in the sust blend.

you can achieve similar with orals, going alittle higher on the dbol or anavar or oral winny dose for example on workout days

 

[kidd73]

the reason I like sust, is if working out say 3 times a week, you can inject on workout days and get the extra androgen boost from the shorter esters in the sust blend.

you can achieve similar with orals, going alittle higher on the dbol or anavar or oral winny dose for example on workout days

I remember my first ever cycle (sus 250) I also remember my quads being so sore after inject I limped all f-ing week
Normal for sus or just a bad batch?

 

[2evil]

I'm also considering Omnadren. Thanks all...

 

[halfcenturian]

Your first cycle were fresh thighs. They would have hurt no matter what.
Mine hurt for a week first 3 cycles... then went on HRT. Pain no more.

 

[kidd73]

Your first cycle were fresh thighs. They would have hurt no matter what.
Mine hurt for a week first 3 cycles... then went on HRT. Pain no more.

lol...now we've just become old pin cushions.

 

[bigmusclehead]

test E for 8 to 10 weeks 250mg/week seems to be the most popular choice for begginers

250 for beginners was a thing of the past now its eems 500mg for beginners is the norm.dont asjk me why it just keeps going up and up.

 

[FunFun]

I remember my first ever cycle (sus 250) I also remember my quads being so sore after inject I limped all f-ing week
Normal for sus or just a bad batch?

It's more likely you injected it into the wrong place and hit a nerve. I don't inject in the quads anymore.

 

[2evil]

Me thinks I'll be sticking with Test E 250 for 12 to 14 weeks and decca for the first 10 (200 mg.)

 

[halfcenturian]

It's more likely you injected it into the wrong place and hit a nerve. I don't inject in the quads anymore.

Maybe. But I still say it's just fresh meat, bro. Your thighs are not used to 250mg of anything being injected into them - - so there is almost always pain your first few times. Remember this stuff has BA in it. Alcohol and your nerves don't like each other.
It really helps to shoot thighs, then work legs that day.

 

[FunFun]

Maybe. But I still say it's just fresh meat, bro. Your thighs are not used to 250mg of anything being injected into them - - so there is almost always pain your first few times. Remember this stuff has BA in it. Alcohol and your nerves don't like each other.
It really helps to shoot thighs, then work legs that day.

Shooting different muscles doesn't build up the muscles you're shooting. This is a myth. The theory behind rotating injection sites is to prevent scar tissue by injecting the same site too often.

Doctors always inject everything into the ass because it's the safest easiest way to avoid hitting nerves.

 

[jassdhali]

Shooting different muscles doesn't build up the muscles you're shooting. This is a myth. The theory behind rotating injection sites is to prevent scar tissue by injecting the same site too often.

Doctors always inject everything into the ass because it's the safest easiest way to avoid hitting nerves.

So what ur saying is that the receptors take up the 'product' regardless of where u inject|??

 

[*The_West*]

fun fun, half centurian wasnt suggesting that site injecting aas make that muscle bigger, he was saying you can inject quads and work them out the same day to stop it hurting so much.

 

[FunFun]

So what ur saying is that the receptors take up the 'product' regardless of where u inject|??

That would be a logical conclusion to what I said, yes.

I actually made that statement to start an open debate on this. I've always been curious about whether there is some extra development in the injected muscles.

 

[halfcenturian]

fun fun, half centurian wasnt suggesting that site injecting aas make that muscle bigger, he was saying you can inject quads and work them out the same day to stop it hurting so much.

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Why, thank you for clearing that up for us. You are correct

I was just about to pull my Mossberg 500 Cruiser shotgun.

....Also doctors do NOT shoot anything.... Nurses do.

With steroids you can shoot thighs , butt, delts, lats, calves.

But if you like it in the ass that's YOUR business!

 

[ironcheif1984]

that or test/C.

if u r wanting to do a really short cycle, i.e. 6 weeks go with test/p.

I agree with GUARDIAN on this one. Shoot 100mgs eod and it will average around 350mgs ew for 6 wks and you will be pleased with the results

 

[eddymerckx]

250 for beginners was a thing of the past now its eems 500mg for beginners is the norm.dont asjk me why it just keeps going up and up.

you know, i never really thought about it but you're right-----i wonder if it b/c of the avail of anti-eees...and there is that pct thing that actually works ....but i would rather say "damn kids" it makes me feel all wise and stuff.

i did not hit 500/week for like 5 years...that said "damn kids"

 

[james629]

Posted by FUNFUNShooting different muscles doesn't build up the muscles you're shooting. This is a myth.

Ever see Greg Valentino, tell me site injection does not work.

 

[AAP]

Unless you are going for a gram a week and injectin EOD, then sust is basically a waste. Stick with a single ester.

Only noobs are impressed with the 4 kinds of test included in sust type hype.

 

[GUARDIAN]

Unless you are going for a gram a week and injectin EOD, then sust is basically a waste. Stick with a single ester.

Only noobs are impressed with the 4 kinds of test included in sust type hype.

+1

 

[*The_West*]

Ever see Greg Valentino, tell me site injection does not work.

that freak show is the result of implants and site injection oil 'synthol' not site injecting aas. site injecting aas does not work, and i will use this example, imagine a guy who has been cycling steroids for 5 years, always pinning in his right glute. does his arse cheek stick out a foot from the other one? no, it doesnt.

 

[littleb]

I'm also considering Omnadren. Thanks all...

stay away from omnadren or at least read up on it bigtime,,, water retention is absolutly terrible, thus raising bp.. shit is garbage in my humble opinion... I know it is tempting because it is cheap as hell and you always hear test is test,, but omna is more for your powerlifters not your body builders..

 

[ironcheif1984]

you know, i never really thought about it but you're right-----i wonder if it b/c of the avail of anti-eees...and there is that pct thing that actually works ....but i would rather say "damn kids" it makes me feel all wise and stuff.

i did not hit 500/week for like 5 years...that said "damn kids"

I dont see a need to go over 250 ew week. i grew like a weed with only 250mgs ew of test id say 25lbs and ive kept 20 of them.

 

[james629]

Quote by the west :that freak show is the result of implants and site injection oil 'synthol' not site injecting aas. site injecting aas does not work, and i will use this example, imagine a guy who has been cycling steroids for 5 years, always pinning in his right glute. does his arse cheek stick out a foot from the other one? no, it doesnt.

GV: What it is this: everyone accuses me of Synthol. I don't take Synthol. I was taking propionate and Equipoise into the muscle itself. Synthol just works one way: it stretches the fascia. With Equipoise and propionate you get the double whammy. You get the stretch from the oil plus you get the localized growth from the drugs themselves.

 

[*The_West*]

GV: What it is this: everyone accuses me of Synthol. I don't take Synthol. I was taking propionate and Equipoise into the muscle itself. Synthol just works one way: it stretches the fascia. With Equipoise and propionate you get the double whammy. You get the stretch from the oil plus you get the localized growth from the drugs themselves.

how do you mean? i fail to see how pinning a couple of cc's of prop/eq will stretch the muscle fascia. where were you pinning?

 

[james629]

That is a quote from him in one of his interviews about his use of synthol.

 

[2evil]

@ littleb

Thanks bro. I will stay away from Omadren. I think I'm settled on just Test E (250 per week)and Decca (200 per week.) I think this may get pushed back to October/ November so I have plenty of time to research more.

My intent is to grow slowly, keep the gains I can and limit joint pain. I'm just looking for an extra boost, not a massive bulking cycle.

Thanks all.