Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Ok, so I have been reading the posts on injecting sus eD or EOD. I keep on seeing 250 ED or EOD is a good way to go but its not for novices. Then how should novice cyle sus to get the most from it. I was thinking of injecting 125mg EOD so its about 375 a week. would this be too low of an amount or is the 250eod amount sufficient.
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jc21
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first what are you stats, age, cycle experience(i guess this will be your first), and goals.
i believe sust needs to be taken eod...just like prop since prop is in sust. i dont see any place to agrue there. so i think 125mg/eod would be sufficient on your first cycle. but i would also recommend throwing in some deca or eq. maybe 300mg/wk.
i believe sust needs to be taken eod...just like prop since prop is in sust. i dont see any place to agrue there. so i think 125mg/eod would be sufficient on your first cycle. but i would also recommend throwing in some deca or eq. maybe 300mg/wk.
jc21 said:
125mg eod is low IMO. i would not go under 500mg/week of Sus/Omna. also, prop's half life is 3-4days, so dosing E3D is sufficient. see if you are prone to gyno before trying deca. Nolv will not help if you are. I like EQ at a min of 300mg, but i feel that 400 - 600mg / week is ideal. my 2cc's
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I think this logic only works if your heart is set on getting the optimal benefit from the fast acting esters at the very start of the cycle.jc21 said:
Lets look at this from the slow ester standpoint. Say test levels from sust begin to peak about three weeks after injection. The ester that is hydrolyzed around 3 weeks does not just break off all in one day, it's spread out. Its quite safe to assume that if injected biweekly the slow esters being hydrolyzed during that peak will overlap. The point is that once you get a few weeks in you've got plenty test kicking through you 24/7. You can also keep in mind that the faster acting esters from injections proximate to the first "peak week" are still at work.
For a newbie, I think a whole amp of sust eod is too high. If you wanted to shoot less than the 250mg and do it eod, I do agree it would get the user off to a faster start, but I think this is more of a hassle than its worth.
I think if your dying to fill that initial gap the first few weeks of a sust cycle you should be using something other than sust.
jc21
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for some people it is enough..i admit it wasnt enough for my first cycle..but that is what a second cycle is for. nope props half life is 2-3 days. what is the point of seeing if you are prone to gyno before starting deca...deca and sust convert to gyno through different paths.
silent method...i totally agree..that is what makes taking multi test esters so hard. that is why i think newbies should stick with enanthate or cyp.
I totally agree. Far too much is made of the 30mgs of Propinate in Sustenon. After the first week when the longer esters start releasing it no longer matters.Silent Method said:
Do 500mgs/week in two seperate injects. Thousands, including myself, do just fine with that.
Silent Method
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Jc, sitting here reading your post ("i admit it wasnt enough for my first cycle") and looking at your avatar, I gotta ask - What was your first cycle?jc21 said:
jc21
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well my first cycle was omnadren 250mg/wk for 8 weeks. when i did that i was 20 yrs old with 3 yrs of solid training down. and was 5'7 at about 195. gained about 5 pounds...and not much strength at all. i think it takes a lot of androgens to make me respond to them. the second was 500mg/wk of testivron and 400mg/wk deca for 8 weeks. that results were incredable.
JC21
When you did the test, did you split it or inject the whole 500mg at once? What about the deca? Both on the same day? I am thinking similar thoughts for my second cycle
By the way, I am half way through my first cycle and have gained 14lbs in 5 weeks. Deca (400mg) and Sus (250mg) cycle. Another 3 weeks of this, then two weeks of Win ED to come!
cheers
When you did the test, did you split it or inject the whole 500mg at once? What about the deca? Both on the same day? I am thinking similar thoughts for my second cycle
By the way, I am half way through my first cycle and have gained 14lbs in 5 weeks. Deca (400mg) and Sus (250mg) cycle. Another 3 weeks of this, then two weeks of Win ED to come!
cheers
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