sus/deca/tren/adding dbol to cycle during week 5 ?

[ALLin]

hello everyone i am new to this forum and just wanted to get some help as in what decision i should make on my cycle

here are my specs:

26, 5"7 180lbs (was 165 when i started) gained 15lbs

first cycle planning to run 12 weeks with pct after with clomid, hcg

weeks 1-4
500mg sus e/w
300 deca e/w
75mg trenbolone e/w

week 5-6

750mg sus e/w
400 deca e/w

week 7-8

750mg sus e/w
150mg tren e/w

week 9-12

750mg sus e/w
400mg deca e/w

and now i am debating to add on a 6 week supply(starting of week 5-11 of the cycle) of d bol at 20mg a day

is this a wise decision at all ? i know d bol is used to jump start a cycle but in the middle of cycle ? at week 5 ? i feel as though my pumps are not as good as they should be i have increased from a 110lb to 175lb flat bench press in last 5 weeks.

my diet is clean about 4 cal a day 7 meals lots or protien and carbs
8 hrs of sleep everynight

no signs of gyno so far, little itchy scalp, and night sweats

my goal is strength and size.

any pointer and opinions are very well appreciated

 

[Mac173]

Re: test/sus/dbol cycle during week 5?

Way too much going on there for a first cycle.
Just use 500mg of test for 10-12wks.

 

[al420]

I think @ 180 lbs you are on the right track. Over 1300mg's per week for a first run, good choices.

I also really like the Tren for 2 weeks (weeks 7-8) - that will be crazy insane yo.

 

[ALLin]

Re: test/sus/dbol cycle during week 5?

Way too much going on there for a first cycle.
Just use 500mg of test for 10-12wks.

kinda too late i am on week 5 already(big trouble now ?) , so i am trying to plan out the rest of the cycle to my best potential.

i am not prone to male pattern baldness but i am taking supplements

multi vitamin x2 per day
omega 3 6 9 x 2
vit c at 1500 mg
vit e 400 mg
milk thistle
saw pawmetto
liv 52
glutamine 20g a day
nioxin hair treatment everyday

and two proteins shakes a day= 112 g of protein (optimum nutrition)
and most importantly food, i eat very clean.

i am also planning to do two weeks on and two weeks off of clenbuterol for fat loss but not during the cycle after, so it wont interrupt my bulking time.
but should i do the clenbuterol after pct or during ? i do not want the bulking and cutting to cancel each other out it just wont make sense.

i hope i am making the right choices thanks in advance for all the members here willing to help a newbie out.

 

[Mac173]

Re: test/sus/dbol cycle during week 5?

kinda too late i am on week 5 already(big trouble now ?) , so i am trying to plan out the rest of the cycle to my best potential.

i am not prone to male pattern baldness but i am taking supplements

multi vitamin x2 per day
omega 3 6 9 x 2
vit c at 1500 mg
vit e 400 mg
milk thistle
saw pawmetto
liv 52
glutamine 20g a day
nioxin hair treatment everyday

and two proteins shakes a day= 112 g of protein (optimum nutrition)
and most importantly food, i eat very clean.

i am also planning to do two weeks on and two weeks off of clenbuterol for fat loss but not during the cycle after, so it wont interrupt my bulking time.
but should i do the clenbuterol after pct or during ? i do not want the bulking and cutting to cancel each other out it just wont make sense.

i hope i am making the right choices thanks in advance for all the members here willing to help a newbie out.

That cycle is horrible then.
You didn't take any time to plan that out.

 

[Mac173]

Just to put you at ease since you seem a little worried, you'll be fine.
Next time take alot more time to think about what you're doing and do it right.
What does your diet consist of?

 

[ALLin]

Just to put you at ease since you seem a little worried, you'll be fine.
Next time take alot more time to think about what you're doing and do it right.
What does your diet consist of?

thanks for your replyh Mac173

my diet consist of :

breakfast

8 am

protien shake optimum nutrition (56 gram protien)
oats
orange juice
toast (whole wheat)
steamed ham
banana
3 hard boiled eggs
multi vitamin

10 am

yougurt
orange
tuna
omega oil pill

1 pm lunch

steam chicken breast no skin soya sauce
white rice
asparagus
vit C

4pm snack

ham,cheese lettuce sandwich, little mayo (hehe cheat)
vit E

6pm

preworkout

strawberry, banana shake
hard boiled egg


8pm post workout shake

2 scoop 56g whey protien shake
10 gram glutamine
vit c

post workout meal

10 oz sirloin steak
boiled potatoe


11pm last meal

yougurt or cottage cheese

milk thistle pill
liv 52 pill

glass of milk

sometimes if still hungery i eat a bowl of oats

helps me drop the kids off at the pool easy in the morning haha!

workout consist of 5 times a week

individual muscle groups per day

including super set excercises and drop sets switch up time to time.

20 min cardio 5 times a week

thanks for the feedback
greatly appreciated


but my main questions is it okay to start d bol at week 5 ? and end at 7?

with my current cycle ?

 

[Phaded]

your taking 150mg tren e/w? is that enough?

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Were did you get the cycle ?
Idont think you need the dbol save it for a later
cycle .
Brad.

 

[ALLin]

i made up this cycle myself

the tren is injection and 1ml is equal to 75mg

Were did you get the cycle ?
Idont think you need the dbol save it for a later
cycle .
Brad.

 

[samoth]

i have increased from a 110lb to 175lb flat bench press in last 5 weeks.

And why the hell are you using steroids?

 

[krishna]

Why even bother with the tren? If it's 75mg then it's ace and you're not using it properly, nor are you taking enough to do anything.

 

[mobro]

I hope this guy is kidding. I don't even feel like I can help him. Some of you guys help the dude out. Like tell him what to drop before he falls apart.

 

[al420]

And why the hell are you using steroids?

To get my bench from 175 to 185 moron. And my Standing BB Curl from 165 to 175.

I think I can curl as much as I bench b/c I train both lifts every time I go to the gym.

 

[ALLin]

To get my bench from 175 to 185 moron. And my Standing BB Curl from 165 to 175.

I think I can curl as much as I bench b/c I train both lifts every time I go to the gym.

al420 thank you for you reply and help through pm greatly appreciated, i will take your advice and change my cycle accordingly.

in regards to the tren yes it is trenbolone acetate, any suggestions on dosage ?
how am i using it wrong? i am using 1ml per injection twice a week which means in total i get 150 mg per week, divide number of day thats about 21.4 mg per day.

here is my cycle changed:

weeks 1-4

500mg sus e/w
300 deca e/w

week 5-8

500mg sus e/w
trenbolone acetate 150 mg e/w

week 9-12
500mg sus e/w
300 deca e/w

hcg 250 iu every 4 days
pct clomid and nolvadex

keeping letro on hand for gyno

does that all looks better ? thank you for your time and effort for feed back

 

[Phaded]

shoot half a cc every day..

 

[ALLin]

shoot half a cc every day..

does tren acetate only work if you shoot it every day ?

i guess its not wise to shoot 75mg twice a week too toxic? at once ?

 

[al420]

You should read up on half lifes and blood levels and try to get a basic understanding of how this shit works - everyone new to gear should, as it will help you debunk shit advice and steer clear of stupid cycles (like ones w/ 4 compounds!)

Tren is best shot ED and at the very least EOD - I wouldn't shoot it EOD.

 

[samoth]

To get my bench from 175 to 185 moron. And my Standing BB Curl from 165 to 175.

I think I can curl as much as I bench b/c I train both lifts every time I go to the gym.

I figured somone using around a gram of steroids a week would be flamed to hell for not actually working out before delving into drug use.

People that can only bench 110lbs using steroids... I just never thought anyone would be dense enough to come out and actually admit that, lol.

 

[solidspine]

For your first cycle, stay away from tren, see how your body responds to deca and test.

I would recommend


Deca 1-12 400mg each week
Test 1-12 400mg each week,


Inject every 3.5 days


Anti E


PCT

 

[al420]

Maybe he is talking about DB's - 110's are pretty heavy - for shoulder presses that is.