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lookingforanwsers

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I am getting ready for my 1st cycle and wanting to know what you guys think I should do. I have 30 1 amp sus 250. I want to know amounts per week and if I should stack with something like EQ, Primo or EOD? 6'0 214 lbs.
 
If this is your first cycle, i think you have way too much..

Your best bet, and this has worked for more than enough guys, is going 500mg of Sust/week for 8-10 weeks (i'd go with ten since you already have well over enough amps)

Inject one amp Monday, then another on Thursday..do this every week..this will give you a more even level of test throughout cycle..

make sure you have nolva, clomid, and/or arimidex handy..

if you have any questiosn email me at [email protected]
 
You should do a search as there are a few posts floating around right now about sus and the dosage. But Im in a giving mood right now and I'll help you out a little here. There is no need to stack with your first cycle. Sus is a great AS to use your first time around. It would help if I knew your goals and what you are trying to achieve, but im guessing that since its your first go at it your just trying to put on some good muscle mass. I would go with:

1cc - 250mg every monday and thursday for 8-10 weeks
- get some arimidex if you want to avoid bloating
- definately get clomid right away, you dont want to be scrambling for it 2 months into your cycle.

there is no need to start off at 1cc per week and work your way up. There is also no need to taper at the end. Go with 2ccs per week the entire 8-10 weeks.
 
haha..we all prett much said the same thing :)

so listen up man, since everybody who has responded hsa given you the same advice, take it..we are all vets to da game :)

also, do not start clomid therapy until 2 weeks after your last injection..it'll be worthless until then..

GO with CLOMID: 400mg (four 50mg tabs spread out) the first 3-5 days..then 100mg everyday for a week...then 50mg everyday until you get your gonads back to normal size again
 
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Themachine01 said:
good advice Kakdiesel, you were posting the same time as me adn i didnt even see your post.
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oh shit, we posted at the same time again! weird...what up machine..:D
 
Ya Themachine01 I am just looking to get a good start. I am mainly looking to add size while also cutting back the current fat.
Is this a good AS for me to accomplish my goal?

Thanks guys for the input.
 
add size while cutting current fat? um..choose what you wanna do buddy..

you are either gonna bulk or cut..the thing with test is that there is aromitzation and estrogen about..estrogen wil cause you to retain water and gain FAT while you are desperately trying to gain muscle..yes you will gain a lot of muscle, but if you're one of the unlucky few that aromitizes very easily, look out, youre gonna get a shitl oad of muscle and a shit load of fat..that is why its best to go with arimidex with test..keeps the fat gain minimum to nil..

or you could get a non aromotizing anabolic/androgenic like a fina/winny cycle which will give you about 10-12 pounds of solid muscle while you shed fat..
 
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29 in my book is too small, i would go with 22 or 23, they work good. it would take an hour to inject 1cc through a 29g'er.
 
lookingforanwsers said:
One more question. I got 29 gauge pins with order. Is this too small or will it do? If I need to get 22 or 23 I can. Thanks again for the help
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sust is a thick oil bro..you shoud NOT have gotten 29 gauge..those wont draw up anything.

best bet: draw up with 23 gauge pin, then replace the pin with a 25 gauge to inject...less scar tissue (smaller holes) and less painful..
 
no more

thats it kak, you can take it from here, there is no use of me even posting anymore, im just repeating the same shit as you anyway you bastard. lol. wish i could get such fast responses on my posts.
 
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Themachine01 said:
thats it kak, you can take it from here, there is no use of me even posting anymore, im just repeating the same shit as you anyway you bastard. lol. wish i could get such fast responses on my posts.
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LOL..yeah my bad bro :)

its good though (for this new kid anyways) that so many guys on the board are well-informed and this website is a mecca of knowledge that is available to anybody and everybody :)

I remember when I was a newbie 2 years ago.....whew..that was a long time ago...geez..

anybody remember Kodiak? what happened to hiM??? that was my nigga on here! LOL
 
just joking Kak, its just good to see that at least some people on this board know how to give good advice without any arguements or fighting about whos right and whos wrong.
 
everyone is always worried about the pin size man i jam in the preloads that come 20 like nothing it dont hurt its only twice a week and it takes 20 seconds..and the clomid therapy im confused i was told with test-3 wks later 300fd 100 next 10 and 50 next 10 ..kak deisel help a bro out i dont wanna loose out if your right explain so i can go with your method...everyone says different thing doing deca-test 10 weeks
 
well the longest any of the sust esters lasts is 14 days approximately..

well, as soon as that 15th day arrives, your body is wanna crash cuz it has NO source of test anymore (gonads are the size of "MAWBULLS"--hehheh, quote from the movie Major League 2 if you were one of the 10 people who saw it LOL)

anyways, thats when you wanna start clomid therapy..anytime before and your nads are not gonna "wake up" so to speak due to test still being in your system..

When the test is gone, your nads WANT SOMETHING to give them a boost so thats why you go with a fairly large amount of clomid at 300mg/day for almost a week (a week would be optimal but not always financially feasible as clomid is pricey domestically)..then the second week go 100mg/day, then the third week 50mg/day..

this works sufficiently enough plus isnt too hard on your pockets...
besides, if you're worried about keeping gains and stuff, just bridge with creatine and ECA while doing the clomid therapy..that should help :)
 
Themachine01 said:
just joking Kak, its just good to see that at least some people on this board know how to give good advice without any arguements or fighting about whos right and whos wrong.
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ahhhh got ya..you kinda lost me there for a second bro..sorry i had a long day of chiropractic school...too much osteology and arthrology :(
 
ugh..definitely what?? :confused:

ECA is ephedrine, caffeine, and aspirin..
personally i liked George's MQ's Phenyltropic PPA (by far the BEST OTC fatburner on the planet)..it was cool cuz it was ephedrine HCL, caffeine, and yohimbe hcl...pharmaceutical grade shit..kicked in REALLY FAST...just sucks it got discontinued..but i ordered his Phenyltropic X and i'm still waiting for it to show up! I'll let everybody know how THAT works out for me
 
Also would it be good to continue creatine, glutamine, Protein and andostine? If so what amounts while taking SUS.



If I was take fina and winny rather then SUS what amounts would you take?


Again thanks for all the info
 
i said use Creatine and ECA to bridge after your cycle so that you can keep a lot of your muscle/strength along with clomid therapy..dont mix creatine and gear..i wouldnt..i mean yeah it'd work great but i'd rather just save the creatine for when you're not on bro..

and if you did fina/winny it'd be for 8 weeks at 75mg fina ED and 50mg Winny ED and you'd get shredded! and gain about 12-15 pounds of lean mass that you'd most likely keep most of hope this helps

kak
 
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