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GrandMaster

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ok boys and girls.. here's the deal.

this spring.. hopefully, i will be going for my M1. Yes, amateur rider.
im still dreaming right now tho lol. i have to see how things go with work,
but i would hopefully like to get my bike this year.

i've been looking at a few bikes for years now,
Now going with a 600 Series...
i like
the: Gsx-r 600
Yamaha R6
Or the honda CBR,...954...rr....lol

i also like the RC51.........
after awhile of riding i will proll up to a 750 series, yes yes i know, theres no big deal between a 600 and 750... dont ask... theres no point in explaing...lol i just like!
what would u experienced riders suggest??
 
yea, i was going to get my M1 a few years ago... i SHOULD of.. but... i bought my TransAm.. lol...it sux and all it being winter and i cant drive it... but i dont care... i need a bike now,..i'll prolly pick up a POS for a winter beater anyways.
 
first time rider ? first bike ? sned me your name and address info so i can cash out on life insurance
 
HS Lifter said:
I can only see the direction this thread will take. :rolleyes:

well, let's stop it from taking that direction before it goes there.



ok, first sport bike for a newbie rider...you want something early to mid 90s, 600cc or smaller. you definetly want to go with something that old because you will eventually lay it down. it's better to put down a $1500-2500 bike while you're learning to ride than to put down a $8500 brand new one.

you could look at a Kawi EX500. they're light, responsive, and not too powerful. it'll let you get the basics down and get some experience. you could also look at CBR600F2s and F3s, or the FZR600. the first person that tells you, "a 600cc is a race bike in street trim! go get something bigger!" deserves to be kicked in their pussy with spiked boots. yes, it's a fact that you can take a brand new 600cc out of the box, slap a few bolt-ons on it, and go racing. well, a liter class bike you can do that with too, but it's got a hell of a lot more power. i dunno what you think, but i think it's better to be learning to ride on a smaller bike that you have to really work to get to stand up/spin the rear tire loose than on a liter class bike that will stand up/break the rear tire loose when you wrench on the throttle a little bit too hard.

early-mid 90s 600s kick out maybe 70hp. they will definetly get up and go, but bear in mind that the newer 600s are kicking out over 115hp. big difference when you consider that they're 100lbs lighter as well. early-mid 90s liter class bikes are going to kick out 100+ hp. you tell me what's going to be the easiest to control if you happen to wrench the throttle too hard or fuck up with the clutch.

anyway, that's my $0.02. early-mid 90s EX500, FZR600, CBR600F2 or F3. learn to ride, have fun (you WILL have fun on any one of those), get a year's worth of riding experience under your ass and at least 5k miles, then start looking for something newer. buy some tough armored leather gloves, sturdy supportive boots, SNELL rated helmet, and look into a 1 or 2 piece leather suit with hard armor. "dress up to go down" is the best advice you can get when going out for a ride. as you put on each article of clothing, ask yourself this question - will this protect my skin in the event that i end up sliding on the asphault? if the answer is no or maybe, go get something else to wear.
 
omg, wuts with u guys???
have some faith plz...i have ridden b4....without a Lic. i will just be doing it LEGALLY now lol.
 
My first was a Katana. Piece of shit and it embarassed the hell out of me to ride with my buddies but I dropped it in my driveway by parking it facing down hill and wqlking away....DUH! The I got a Yamaha YZF which was a step up, but not the bike I wanted, just the bike I was ready for. The I got my first "real" sportbike, my R6. Probably the best 600 on the road. But I finally got the bike I wanted last year, an 03 R1 and I love it. 1st bike, I would suggest maybe a Suzuki SV 650 (or 600, I can't remember which they make). Insurance for a new license holder will probably be spendy for a true Sport bike as compared to a sport tourer, such as the SV. But if you insist on the Sport, I suggest a 2001 or 2002 R6.
 
in looking for a 600cc Primarily...
Crak600, dont sweat it, nobody is going to get me to go any higher then a 600cc.
my decisions for advancment wil solely be based upon my increasing rider ability and security with knowing how to handel the bike efficiently.
 
i have a bad ass 954RR for sale.....but Crack said all that needed to be said...600cc is the way to go IMO....the only deal with the 600 superbike is that you are on the pipe all the time and you tend to carry speed more often then you might be used to...they are to be respected at all times as they are no "slouch".....the fastest guys i ride with, that no one can keep up with - ride 600RR 's or GSX-R 600's....most of us are on liter bikes too....truth be known....
 
I knew I'd see PBR in this thread. How the hell are ya, bro? Scrape up any knee pucks lately?
 
thanks PBR

its not like i work up yesterday and was like " hey im going to go get a bike"
i've been informing myself and learning about bikes...etc for about 4years now, so when the time comes that i can afford one, i wont be all that " rookie" if u catch my drift other then the actual riding phase.
 
Crak, I couldn't have said it better myself.
 
dirty~d~ said:
I knew I'd see PBR in this thread. How the hell are ya, bro? Scrape up any knee pucks lately?
hi hon!!!! how are you???..drop me a line and tell me whats going on with life!!....any new bike yet????????.... ;) always grinding pucks!!! :p its been raining so much lately tho, that all the roads are a mess....too much brake time...you gotta come ride with us this summer girl!!!
 
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GrandMaster said:
thanks PBR

its not like i work up yesterday and was like " hey im going to go get a bike"
i've been informing myself and learning about bikes...etc for about 4years now, so when the time comes that i can afford one, i wont be all that " rookie" if u catch my drift other then the actual riding phase.
GM- i gothcha bro...knowledge and application are completely different...my intention was not to tell you "how" to do anything....just to inform you that regardless of people implying that a 600cc bike is a safer way to go because of power- is completely false....there is another side to that coin, just pointing it out....i dont ride a 600cc bike because IMO they are too dangerous for me- cause im always fucking around on them...when i board my 954 im in the "ZONE" automatically, because with 160hp i will die quickly if i screw around...Plus i like riding high speed loamy tracks or canyons where i can spend time in triple digits easier, and i can blow away any car whenever i want....Iam looking for Woot!!!!! :p
 
I agree with crak on what he said and now I am going to hijack your thread.

Did Yamaha FZ1 in the mid 80s have a seperate clutch resevoir for the the fluid? And todays modesl have a wet clutch that uses the same oil as the engine oil?
 
curling said:
I agree with crak on what he said and now I am going to hijack your thread.

Did Yamaha FZ1 in the mid 80s have a seperate clutch resevoir for the the fluid? And todays modesl have a wet clutch that uses the same oil as the engine oil?


*Hits you with chair..infamous Elbow drop, steals thread back* lol


thanks PBR once again! ;)
 
GrandMaster said:
thanks PBR

its not like i work up yesterday and was like " hey im going to go get a bike"
i've been informing myself and learning about bikes...etc for about 4years now, so when the time comes that i can afford one, i wont be all that " rookie" if u catch my drift other then the actual riding phase.

you will be a rookie until you learn to ride. doesn't matter how much you've read, it's how well you apply it to the road.

not trying to rain on your parade, just telling you the truth.

look for an MSF course. they have beginner's courses that might even be free where you are. take the course the weekend before you get your bike. you can go to the beginner's course and use one of their little Nighthawk 250s to learn the basics and what not. this is the BEST route to go, as you can form good habits before you have a chance to form bad habits and then have to break them. it could mean the difference between life and death.

a friend of mine spent 3 years stationed in Japan. he took the beginner's MSF course over there and then bought a used NSR250 a week later. he had about a 20 mile ride home from where he got the bike, and he said by the time he got back to his barracks, he was 100% comfortable with the clutch, throttle, and brakes simply because he took the time to do all the stuff that they taught him in the MSF course before he even pulled out of the parking lot.

there's a lot of things you will not grasp until you actually get experience riding. i was out 2 summers ago on my 600 chasing down 3 liter class bikes on a real nice twisty road. they all smoked me coming out of every turn, but i was up their asses in every turn wishing they'd go faster or get out of the way (i'm not claiming to be a top notch rider, but these guys were squids beyond belief when it came to turns). as i came out of a 90 degree uphill left hander, i cranked on the throttle some more while still leaned over. my back tire spun and slid out 6-8". my experience, not what i had read, was what kept me from losing control. i simply rode it out, whereas 2 years earlier i would have tried to correct for it and ended up sliding off the road.

the last 2 years i was riding (bike needs bodywork and has been parked for a while), i slowed down a lot. i adopted a different philosophy on carving canyons. i stopped taking every straight at 100+ and instead settled on more sane speeds, but i'd push it harder in the turns. was much more fun for me to ride that way. i wasn't pushing the brakes to their limits to scrub off speed for a turn, then ripping loose coming out of each turn. it's easier to back off a little bit for a turn and hold the throttle steady than to practically send the bike into a tank-slapper trying to slow down, then regain your wits and stay on the throttle through a turn. plus one of the killer roads out here has a great view. it's nice to lumber along up and down the hills at 70mph and glance out to the side and take in the valleys.


i really do hope you're looking for a used bike. you'll save a lot of money, you'll learn to ride on something you can use and abuse, and you'll have plenty of money left over for good riding gear. it's the best way, trust me (and many many others) on that advice. if you pick up an older used bike in good condition, you won't lose much on the resale.
 
yea im looking for a used bike.. they way i see it... i'ts broken in a bit, and i wont cry as much if its dropped. Plus i can used the money i saved to get GOOD apparel, and shit.

i know reading is nothing compared to your actually on the road, i tell that to friend who still dont HAVE A DRIVERS LIC! same shit applies... thanks for your input bro!
 
GrandMaster said:
yea im looking for a used bike.. they way i see it... i'ts broken in a bit, and i wont cry as much if its dropped. Plus i can used the money i saved to get GOOD apparel, and shit.

i know reading is nothing compared to your actually on the road, i tell that to friend who still dont HAVE A DRIVERS LIC! same shit applies... thanks for your input bro!

you're a smart man already thinking about getting good riding gear to start off with.

AGV and Shoei both make good affordable helmets. i've heard both praises and complaints about Arai. it seems you either love Arai or you hate them. some of their helmets are built kind of cheap and it seems like you're just paying for the name.

helmets are weird though. i can put an AGV on my head then take the same size Shoei and it doesn't fit right. ordering them online is definetly the cheapest, but hit up a store and try a few on to make sure you know what fits you best, then get online and look for the deals.

i had a pair of $110 Tekinc gloves that had kevlar in them. wore them for almost a year and they held up great. then i got a chance to do a track day at Laguna Seca. the last session we were on the track, last lap, my tires slid on me in turn 4. i was moving pretty damn fast. bike lowsided and i slid all the way across the track and into the gravel trap. my hands were dragging on the asphault for a decent bit. the padding on the butt of the gloves got halfway ripped off and that was it. i couldn't imagine how much worse it would've been with cheaply made shitty gloves. i'm not saying you need to spend $110 just on gloves, but make sure they're good solid construction and tough leather. better safe than skin graft.

good luck finding a bike. any questions, feel free to ask. quite a few of us here that can help out.
 
sweet!
before i make all my final decisions i'll have all the gear hehehe

price, im not too concernt with, this is my life were talking about, and i love my pretty face more then then G/f lol
i think the only thing that would bother me is the boots.. i wear a size 13, and i found it hard to shift with my bigfeet. I jumped on my buddys Aprila ... fucking wow. thats a beauty.... tough decison it can be dont ya think??? girl?? or bike.??? hmm.. take bike.. get other girl down the block! :D lol
 
GrandMaster said:
sweet!
before i make all my final decisions i'll have all the gear hehehe

price, im not too concernt with, this is my life were talking about, and i love my pretty face more then then G/f lol
i think the only thing that would bother me is the boots.. i wear a size 13, and i found it hard to shift with my bigfeet. I jumped on my buddys Aprila ... fucking wow. thats a beauty.... tough decison it can be dont ya think??? girl?? or bike.??? hmm.. take bike.. get other girl down the block! :D lol

just don't get a curb monkey. they're bad for bikes. :worried:

i wear a size 8 1/2 W. with my heel hooked on the peg i can hit the shifter perfectly. it's kinda nice. you should actually have somewhat of an advantage though with a bigger foot. it'll be easier to keep the balls of your feet on the pegs.
 
crak600 said:
you're a smart man already thinking about getting good riding gear to start off with.

AGV and Shoei both make good affordable helmets. i've heard both praises and complaints about Arai. it seems you either love Arai or you hate them. some of their helmets are built kind of cheap and it seems like you're just paying for the name.

helmets are weird though. i can put an AGV on my head then take the same size Shoei and it doesn't fit right. ordering them online is definetly the cheapest, but hit up a store and try a few on to make sure you know what fits you best, then get online and look for the deals.

i had a pair of $110 Tekinc gloves that had kevlar in them. wore them for almost a year and they held up great. then i got a chance to do a track day at Laguna Seca. the last session we were on the track, last lap, my tires slid on me in turn 4. i was moving pretty damn fast. bike lowsided and i slid all the way across the track and into the gravel trap. my hands were dragging on the asphault for a decent bit. the padding on the butt of the gloves got halfway ripped off and that was it. i couldn't imagine how much worse it would've been with cheaply made shitty gloves. i'm not saying you need to spend $110 just on gloves, but make sure they're good solid construction and tough leather. better safe than skin graft.

good luck finding a bike. any questions, feel free to ask. quite a few of us here that can help out.

i agree... shoei is pretty much the authority... I go the 700 X11 with the big yellow horns on it brand new online for 380...

i got an icon motorhead jacket online for 250 and kevlar pimp gloves for 75 bucks...
 
If you wear a size 42 I have a Joe Rocket SpeedMaster leather jacket with full armor/padding that is about one year old. No scrapes/scuffs/smells. All black. Sold my bike (Triumph Daytona 955) a couple of years ago and don't think I'll be getting another one. $150 for the jacket if anybody has a use for it.
 
pogo said:
If you wear a size 42 I have a Joe Rocket SpeedMaster leather jacket with full armor/padding that is about one year old. No scrapes/scuffs/smells. All black. Sold my bike (Triumph Daytona 955) a couple of years ago and don't think I'll be getting another one. $150 for the jacket if anybody has a use for it.

i have a large flat black w/design HJC helmet for 75 bucks
 
patsfan1379 said:
i agree... shoei is pretty much the authority... I go the 700 X11 with the big yellow horns on it brand new online for 380...

i got an icon motorhead jacket online for 250 and kevlar pimp gloves for 75 bucks...

i've tried on Shoei helmets but the AGVs fit me better. a lot of people like Shoei. you definetly can't go wrong with either helmet, and the choice between them pretty much comes down to which one fits better.

i have a one piece AGV suit with hard armor. that cost $460. i got it at the chaparell store in so-cal. it was on sale at the time and was the only suit that fit within my price range. i was drooling over the Daniese suits, but wasn't about to shell out $1200.
 
crak600 said:
i've tried on Shoei helmets but the AGVs fit me better. a lot of people like Shoei. you definetly can't go wrong with either helmet, and the choice between them pretty much comes down to which one fits better.

i have a one piece AGV suit with hard armor. that cost $460. i got it at the chaparell store in so-cal. it was on sale at the time and was the only suit that fit within my price range. i was drooling over the Daniese suits, but wasn't about to shell out $1200.


yeah, for me personally i found that the shoei fit my head perfectly... it was a medium and I am large in every other size.

the shoei NEVER fogs,... EVER... its got vents that keep my head super cool... plus its got a little spoiler in the back... and its lite as fuck

http://www.shoei-helmets.com/helmets/porto.html
 
patsfan1379 said:
yeah, for me personally i found that the shoei fit my head perfectly... it was a medium and I am large in every other size.

the shoei NEVER fogs,... EVER... its got vents that keep my head super cool... plus its got a little spoiler in the back... and its lite as fuck

http://www.shoei-helmets.com/helmets/porto.html

i hate when they fog. what's worse is i wear glasses (contacts now). it really sucks when the glasses fog up.

was riding in Louisana one night and it was foggy. at first i thought i was fogging up the visor. i lifted it and took my hand to wipe it out. the mist from the fog got on my glasses in that few seconds. i put the visor down and still couldn't see. then i had to pull over and wipe EVERYTHING off.
 
crak600 said:
i hate when they fog. what's worse is i wear glasses (contacts now). it really sucks when the glasses fog up.

was riding in Louisana one night and it was foggy. at first i thought i was fogging up the visor. i lifted it and took my hand to wipe it out. the mist from the fog got on my glasses in that few seconds. i put the visor down and still couldn't see. then i had to pull over and wipe EVERYTHING off.


yup... thats the WHOLE reason i picked up that shoei.
 
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