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so a buddy at the gym, believe hes 23 or late 22 -.- started gear.pretty young maybe 19 or.20..did have a base.but that could of been him on the.gear.from a.young age plus he.is.genetically gifted in terms of metabolism and junk as he admits.himself....so hes tryna get me on the gear.... i asked him about his.recent.cycles.and.his.PCT..cant forget pct now... he says he does clomid and tribulus...I asked thats all, ? dose on clomid ? he says he not sure but one shot or something...now hes 5'7 220 lbs maybe 10-12 %bf ....
wtf im here busting my ass for quality.weight.and he just get it asap....the funny thing here.....I can actually outlift him -.-
so thoughts? do u think that his pct protocol is sufficient ? he did mention he went on dbol deca etc... is he setting himself for a heartbreak in ths future ?
he says hes.fine other than his shrunken balls he mentioned whiel on cycle...if thats all hes getting I really wouldnt mind.sinking.my feet into aas in my early 20 instead of waiting...thoughts?
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Don't start now. It's retarded, because at your age you can grow like MAD with your hormone levels. Wait til your late 20s at least. If you aren't growing at your age then you either aren't eating right/enough or your workouts suck. If you have money to blow use it on a personal trainer or a nutritionist to school you on the more important things. Unless you're unhealthy in some sort of way there's no reason you shouldn't be growing. How old are you?
 
Ya first off his pct is crap you need more than that. If he is running deca he is shut down hard big time and once he stops and only does clomid he is in for a world of hell and will lose all his gains and probly have no sex drive and sex. Yes that age is far too young. I didnt start using aas till i was 36 im 39 now. I am an athlete i olay baseball i have been working out for 20 plus years. At your age if you fine tune your diet to perfection and max out your workouts create a real solid base then try it. He is not correct. You out lift him because you are stronger because he may look bigger but he is just pumping his ass full of shit and doesnt even know how or why he is using what he is using.
 
Don't start now. It's retarded, because at your age you can grow like MAD with your hormone levels. Wait til your late 20s at least. If you aren't growing at your age then you either aren't eating right/enough or your workouts suck. If you have money to blow use it on a personal trainer or a nutritionist to school you on the more important things. Unless you're unhealthy in some sort of way there's no reason you shouldn't be growing. How old are you?

growing isnt the hardpart, I 6repped 295 bench at 185lbs natty.I KNOW I can put on weight/ strenght this offseason but just the fact that some guys get on with poor training etc and are getting.bigger than me... it just makes you wanna "catch" up if u know what im trying to say.. like here I am busting my as prepping meals and etc and my buddys on the gear, dirty bulking eating.w.e and.manages to put on more mass -.-

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you are considering this for all the wrong reasons and you are much too young to be doing this... you should be out partying, getting girls, etc... not worrying about fucking with your test (which at your age is fucking great) and hormones... why at your age would you want to fuck with yourself like that when you are in the prime of your life... its only going to cause you problems later... be smart...
 
Let your body finish going thru the pubity proscess and don't mess yourself inject hormones, you'll be much off in the long run.

You'll keep making gains while your body starts producing it's on Testosterone, while your buddy crashes!
 
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he doesn't need a PCT because he is one of those people to never come off. sounds like he has been juiced to the gills.. and before you say "no he does come off" I will say bullshit. stopping steroids for 4 weeks is not coming off. he still has juice in his system that entire time leftover. he would have to stop for atleast a good 6 weeks then bridge for another 10 weeks minimum to give his body a chance to recover on its own.

so in other words he has been on for the past 5 years nonstop. the bad news is he will have to go on TRT and I doubt will ever be able to come off .. even if he can recover his HPTA he just is so used to being on 10X normale male hormones that if he comes off he will be mind fucked.

also with that height and weight (doesn't matter if its muscle or fat) and staying on that long with no break I guarantee his lipids look like shit across the board.
 
There is no reason for you too man. I did start at 21 but after several surgeries & physical therapy wanted be back & then some for athletic reasons, but for looks only and not planning on trying to compete would just wait sounds like have a good base. Who cares if he's bigger if your stronger naturally. Keep training hard and when do your first cycle will see yourself come close to where this idiot is.
What are you current stats out of curiosity?

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