suggestions on pct

[HAYEZ]

i have decided on my first cycle and am planning my pct now
im gonna do
1-3 50mg ed var
4-8 40 mg ed var
1-8 600mg ew primo
i was gonna do eq 200mg a week also just to try and pack on a little extra weight to...but im worried that putting that in is gonna increase my chances of acne which I DO NOT WANT ANY OF...and also take me longer to recover...and with taking primo and var i shouldnt need clomid correct?...since anavar doesnt shut down nat test and primo only slightly suppresses it..i hhave read and it seems that clomid has just as bad acne sides to some people as the steroid itself...so whats your guys opinion?just do the anavar and primo and have a safe and easy recovery without riskingthe acne from high doses of clomid or the acne from eq?could someone suggest a good pct ?i know if p[osted before about this but it was with eq in it...so i changed it up a bit..thanks

 

[Super Test 2004]

I never had any issues with Primo and acne and I am very prone to acne.
As far as var is concerned, I think you should be safe there too.
PCT, check out my post, PCT help. Mavy wrote me a great PCT cycle. Check it out.

 

[HAYEZ]

thanks looing now

 

[Super Test 2004]

No problem bro.

 

[HAYEZ]

i read that but dont know if could apply to me..thanks though

 

[HAYEZ]

you would be shut down pretty hard off what your doing..so idont know if i should go that extreme wiht it or not

 

[jh1]

You won't have to worry about Acne on Primo and Var - I am on them both right now and I am really acne prone. My skin is better - I am assuming because my test levels have dropped.

As far as PCT - I still think you will be suppressed so you should use Nolva IMO... clomid I don't like. If I were you I would use HCG and Nolva to recover....

 

[DrJMW]

HCG should be included in every PCT. Nolvadex or Clomid become a personal choice. Noladex seems to be the least of all evils.

 

[HAYEZ]

so hcg and nolva so far...thanks...ys im trying to stay awayf orm it because i am prone also to it and im not trying to push mmy luck...lol..how are you doing your pct?
dosages days etc...

 

[HAYEZ]

karma for everyone that took the time out to help .....thanks

 

[genarr3]

At the end of that cycle your HTPA will be suppressed. Even just one of those drugs alone at those doses will suppress you. Maybe not to the degree Nandrolone would suppress you, but suppressed none the less.

If acne is a concern use Nolvadex for PCT.

 

[jh1]

so hcg and nolva so far...thanks...ys im trying to stay awayf orm it because i am prone also to it and im not trying to push mmy luck...lol..how are you doing your pct?
dosages days etc...

Not in PCT yet... it'll be another 8 weeks for me...

 

[HAYEZ]

You won't have to worry about Acne on Primo and Var - I am on them both right now and I am really acne prone. My skin is better - I am assuming because my test levels have dropped.

As far as PCT - I still think you will be suppressed so you should use Nolva IMO... clomid I don't like. If I were you I would use HCG and Nolva to recover....

hey how have your results been so far and what dosegae ar eyou doing?

 

[HAYEZ]

At the end of that cycle your HTPA will be suppressed. Even just one of those drugs alone at those doses will suppress you. Maybe not to the degree Nandrolone would suppress you, but suppressed none the less.

If acne is a concern use Nolvadex for PCT.

ok lets say im gonna do the hcg and nolva..what doses should that be in?
i have seen people with conflicting dosages hcg?what mg nolva?

 

[jh1]

550mg per week Primo (smaller doses eod)
40mg Var ED

I'm in Week 4.

I have went from 180 10%BF to 183 8%BF

BF I have to approximate - I base it party on my BF scale and partly on the mirror. I don't have access to a hyrdo test facility. Other important factor is - I like my physique, I am not going after huge mass. I do it for the girls, not to be huge and in my experience the girls I like prefer Men's Fitness over Muscle Head magazine...

Depends on your goals.

 

[HAYEZ]

LOL...update me when your cycles over let me know how everythign turned out...i would like to pack on mass...but im not gonna risk the sides for it..so ill eb happy with whatever comes out of it...but were basically doing the smae thign so ill be interested in what happens

 

[genarr3]

ok lets say im gonna do the hcg and nolva..what doses should that be in?
i have seen people with conflicting dosages hcg?what mg nolva?

During week 8, begin using HCG @2,000 Units three times per week IM for three weeks. Also, during week 8, begin Nolvadex @20mg daily and continue for 6 weeks.

I know this sounds like you're using Nolvadex for HTPA recovery for six weeks, but that's not really the case.
HCG will raise Estrogen, Nolvadex should always be used with HCG for that reason.

"i have seen people with conflicting dosages" - This is always going to be the case. There are so many variables in each case there is no cookie cutter regimen. You may recover just fine without HCG, a different dose of it, a different dose of Nolvadex . . etc.

The only way to know what's best for you is through experience and bloodwork. Until then the scattergun approach should be used.

 

[HAYEZ]

ok 1 more question.....hcg surpress nat test production right?it just pushes off the change over till a few weeks after cycle?after im done with hcg how long usually does it take to adjust back to working normally?and you think ill be able to keep alot of my gains wihtout using clomid after it?

 

[HAYEZ]

ok whne i get my nolvadex what should i use?liquid nolva or regular nolva pills?is lr liquid any good they make?

 

[lartinos]

After taking all that stuff, not getting acne post cycle seems unlikely to me. I've never taking var or primo, but the just the fact of getting somewhat shutdown and then raising your test levels with hcg seem like it can cause acne. Test only and taking b-5 and maybe proscar seems like a cheaper way to get gains and stave off acne.

 

[HAYEZ]

i would try that but i have read alot of people say they broke out horroible off test..id rather spend the money and try it the way i see least sides effects..anybody had any bad experience with hcg