suggestions for cycle

[JakeB]

well ive been speaking w/ a member of the board about a possible first cycle for myself -- i am 6'5, 235 lbs, been lifting for about 4 years now and no clue what my bf is, but its not too high -- i was thinking about doing a test/dbol 8 week cycle but i really dont wanna blow up that big in 8 weeks, i dont want it to be that noticable while im on it -- i dont want my family and g/f to find out that im on it, and if u knew my g/f u would understand -- anyway we discussed a cycle of 50mg of winstrol and 40mg var for 8 weeks -- i was curious if anybody had any other suggestions for my first, because technically these are both cutting supps, right? -- just wondering if should substitute one of those for bulking compound -- thanks for any help

 

[Paulo]

If you don't want to gain noticable amounts of weight, or drastically alter your body composition, then why bother with steroids?

 

[JakeB]

u have a good point, i just didnt know if there was something i could take that it wouldnt be so noticeable -- im sure i can make up an excuse, but if i gain too much it will be obvious as fuck, thats all

 

[falcon9901]

Run something simple, like dbol. Check out the thread on here about running 10mg of dbol for 60 days. Might be something to consider, small gains over a a short period of time, but nice gains none the less.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366194

 

[JakeB]

thanks falcon, K for u -- anybody else, im open for suggestions

 

[falcon9901]

thanks falcon, K for u -- anybody else, im open for suggestions

Yeah anytime, I ran dbol for my first cycle and had impressive gains from it.

 

[help4john]

Test only 200-400mg EW. Make sure you have Nolvadex on hand in the event of sides. Good luck.

 

[TheRide]

thanks falcon, K for u -- anybody else, im open for suggestions

not sure I like dbol alone for a 2sst cycle. some people retain a lot of water on it. My first cycle was EQ/Winstrol. I have about the same build as you. 6'4 215-225 depeending on the time of year. I still use this cycle b/c I like the results.

Typically 12 weeks
1-12 EQ 400-500mg
7-12 Winstrol 50mg/eod

You could also run EQ/Test Enath

EQ 1-12 400mg
Test 1-12 400mg

I would build up on the doeses to see how you're body reacts. I still do that if I'm trying a drug for the first time. I would reccoemnd:

Wk 1 - 200 EQ / 100 Enath
Wk 2 - 250 EQ/ 200 Enath
Wk 3 - 300 EQ/ 400 Enath
Wk 4-12 400 EQ/400 Enath

Just my $0.02 - hope it helps.

 

[JakeB]

Yeah anytime, I ran dbol for my first cycle and had impressive gains from it.

how much of those gains did u keep tho?

 

[wls8687]

run low dosage of test..

 

[falcon9901]

how much of those gains did u keep tho?

Not all of course, maybe 70%.

 

[JakeB]

ok, after discussing and reading some, thinkin about this...tell me what u think

wk 1-8 400mg EQ ew
wk 1-4 30mg Dbol ed
wk 5-8 50mg winstrol eod

the only thing i could think of was maybe running the winny a little bit longer, anymore suggestions are appreciated

 

[JakeB]

anybody??

 

[Djicy]

ok, after discussing and reading some, thinkin about this...tell me what u think

wk 1-8 400mg EQ ew
wk 1-4 30mg Dbol ed
wk 5-8 50mg winstrol eod

the only thing i could think of was maybe running the winny a little bit longer, anymore suggestions are appreciated

Take out the Dbol if you don't want crazy results, the EQ and Winny will not make you blow up but give you some quality gains.

I'm doing an EQ and Winny cycle next and instead of taking the 50 EOD I think I'm just going to take 25 every day for 5 weeks.

 

[drl]

drop the dbol, and maybe throw in 200mg of test a week just to keep your sex drive- i would do this:
300mg/wk EQ
200mg/wk Test E
25mg/day aromasin (anti-e plus boosts testosterone by 60%)

the 300mg/wk of eq will give you 10lbs. in 10 weeks by itself (i have similar build to you), and they are quality gains

 

[silverbackn]

If you don't want to gain noticable amounts of weight, or drastically alter your body composition, then why bother with steroids?

That makes the most sense of any I answer I could think of.

 

[JakeB]

That makes the most sense of any I answer I could think of.

well thanks for the help on the cycle -- i didnt wanna blow up like a fuckin balloon and for it to be that obvious that i was on, but i dont care anymore -- thanks for the help those who actually answered my questions

 

[boston basher]

You have to run the winny for more than 3 weeks, that will be a waste. What did you decide on doing?

 

[silverbackn]

ok, after discussing and reading some, thinkin about this...tell me what u think

wk 1-8 400mg EQ ew
wk 1-4 30mg Dbol ed
wk 5-8 50mg winstrol eod

the only thing i could think of was maybe running the winny a little bit longer, anymore suggestions are appreciated

This looks pretty good, but beware of the dbol, it will definitely make your head swell up like a balloon. Definitely use an anti-e if you are trying to stay under the radar. Good luck!!!!!!!!!