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:rolleyes:

Another aspartame thread. Good Lord.

I use all three national brand sweeteners, Equal, Sweet 'n Low, and Splenda. For dieters, they are Godsends. The crap you read on the web about the dangers of aspartame is just that...crap.

Ask yourself:

1. Have you ever heard of anyone having an adverse reaction to ANY artificial sweetener?

2. Have you ever seen a legitimate news report or newspaper article on ANYONE having an adverse reaction to ANY artificial sweetener?

3. Considering how many millions of pounds of sweeteners are sold each year, if there were really a problem, don't you think we'd have been aware of it years ago?

4. Have you ever heard of any problems with sweeteners from any source but the web?

If you have some sort of alergy or one-in-a-million reaction to a sweetener (and that is possible with almost anything you can eat), you'll know it immediately. Beyond that, use them to your heart's content.

Here's a couple links that might help:

MIT report from the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
FDA Report
 
Well...
I must admit I have adverse reactions

every time...

huge spots, headaches, ....

every time...

yes, it is awfull and really painful...

every time ... I hear stupids urban legends about artificial sweeteners and brain cancer :D :D :D
 
Anthrax said:
Well...
I must admit I have adverse reactions

every time...

huge spots, headaches, ....

every time...

yes, it is awfull and really painful...

every time ... I hear stupids urban legends about artificial sweeteners and brain cancer :D :D :D

I've been shamefully absent from the Diet board of late. Good to see you are still around sir. :D
 
Good to see you back ! :angel:
 
Check out Stevia

I was glad to see that stevia got some mention but I didn’t feel there was enough info listed so here is my two cents.


I started using stevia about a year ago, the FDA restricted health food stores from calling it a sweetener as the sugar lobby is quite powerful, however people were able to get around the ban if they sold it as a supplement. Health food stores were not allowed to carry books on cooking with it or free to use it in their cafes instead of approved sweeteners.

I have done quite a bit of research on stevia, I cook with it regularly and when I HAVE to have chocolate chip cookies I make carob/stevia cookies from a recipe that I found off the internet. I also learned you can use applesauce in baking to replace butter requirements and rather than white flour I use whole wheat or oat flour.
Stevia is wonderfully sweet, wont spike your insulin, won’t rot your teeth and isn’t made up of some pharmaceutical chemical that is stored in your brain tissue. It’s natural, it’s a good antioxidant and if you go follow these links you may find something that will convince you to give it a try. All stevia is not made equally so ready about the different companies; I use sweet leaf and wisdom of the ages. I hope this helps you cut your sugar without the nasty side effects of some in lab sweeteners.


http://www.stevia.net/

http://www.dorway.com/stevia.html

http://www.steviacanada.com/

http://www.cookingwithstevia.com/
 
a 30% ascesulfame K and 70% aspartame mixture appears in some research to have the same sweetness rating as that of sucrose. Maybe that was helpful.

The best thing is just to use these sweeteners in different ratios to find what best works for you. Just remember that some will have different taste indexes in relation to the heat/environment they are in.

BMJ
 
gymtime said:

1. Have you ever heard of anyone having an adverse reaction to ANY artificial sweetener?

2. Have you ever seen a legitimate news report or newspaper article on ANYONE having an adverse reaction to ANY artificial sweetener?

3. Considering how many millions of pounds of sweeteners are sold each year, if there were really a problem, don't you think we'd have been aware of it years ago?

4. Have you ever heard of any problems with sweeteners from any source but the web?

1. Yes, in a manner of speaking. Personal experience with obese individuals has found a strange link between difficulty losing weight and use of aspartame products. Generally, this has been a case of proportion; those using the higher amounts have been affected greater. I am of the opinion that there is a connection between aspartame use and decreased insulin sensitivity, so for that reason, it has no place in my diet programs.
2. Yes. Flight training manuals instruct pilots to avoid aspartame containing products because of the risk/association with seizures. Anyone I know who has seizure risks or conditions is told to stay off the aspartame.
3. No. The fact that no association has been made does not mean it does not exist. The current studies suggesting aspartame safety have been funded by groups benefitting from sales.
4. Yes. I have a file of physician-provided case studies containing over 2,000 documented occurrences of side effects believed to be associated with aspartame consumption. So whether physician experience has led to an increase in web communication or vice versa is almost immaterial. However, I do see your point and I tend to discount the near fanatical proportions it is given on some websites that have no credentials or legitimacy.


While I do not support the web-hype in its entirety condemning aspartame, there is way too much negative association for it to be called completely safe. I definitely think it is time for an independant organization to examine the evidence and even conduct tests. That's probably the only way it can be conclusively shown to be safe or suggested usafe with any degree of accuracy. I am not one prone to suggestion and hype, so ultimately my opinion is that it should be used sparingly and as a last resort to sucrose. Sucrose is very dangerous and has helped obesity rates in this country reach staggering proportions. So to say aspartame is as dangerous as sucrose is not true. So while I may be considered by some people to be anti-aspartame, I am not an outright opponent. I need more info before making an absolute stance and even then it could be a linked association. For example: it could be something as simple as aspartame side effects when consumed in X quantities by persons also consuming X amounts of trans fatty acids. Etc.
 
BackDoc said:


1. Yes, in a manner of speaking. Personal experience with obese individuals has found a strange link between difficulty losing weight and use of aspartame products. Generally, this has been a case of proportion; those using the higher amounts have been affected greater. I am of the opinion that there is a connection between aspartame use and decreased insulin sensitivity, so for that reason, it has no place in my diet programs.
2. Yes. Flight training manuals instruct pilots to avoid aspartame containing products because of the risk/association with seizures. Anyone I know who has seizure risks or conditions is told to stay off the aspartame.
3. No. The fact that no association has been made does not mean it does not exist. The current studies suggesting aspartame safety have been funded by groups benefitting from sales.
4. Yes. I have a file of physician-provided case studies containing over 2,000 documented occurrences of side effects believed to be associated with aspartame consumption. So whether physician experience has led to an increase in web communication or vice versa is almost immaterial. However, I do see your point and I tend to discount the near fanatical proportions it is given on some websites that have no credentials or legitimacy.

Do you have sources for any of that? It would make for an interesting read.
 
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