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successful NON test base cycles?

tiger88

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lets here some outlines of cycles ppl have run without test where is 2thick when i need him LOL


i am thinking maybe jucing again and this for my second cycle in a few months

weeks 1-12 eq @ 600 mg
weeks 1-6 tren @ 75 mg ED
weeks 1-6 winstrok @ 50 mg ED (zambons hopefully)
weeks 7-14 anavar @ 40 mg ed
(running var right till PCT)

yes i know it is alot of orals.. ... ...
basically what are some yall successsul cycles without test?
id toss in proviron in there for sex drive...
 
bump for tiger... and i would like to know... im sure you'll get the prop at 100 eod for libido
 
Cycles I've run w/out test:

-deca/EQ/winstrol
-EQ/Winstrol
-EQ/Primo

The first 2 I got good results from but EQ/Primo wasn't all that great. I think mainly b/c I ran too low of a dose of primo for too short a time.

There is only 1 oral in you cycle assum. you doing IM winstrol. I think it's decent cycle. Here is some feedback (IMO):

-I've gotted great results from EQ on 400-500 mg/week.
-I'd hit the Var for wk1-7 and run the winstrol 8-14.

Hope this helps bro!! :supercool
 
Why not run the tren all 12 weeks? Also, you could shoot the tren EOD, I always do because I don't like too many injects. But I've never done it without test, so I can't help you with that part of the question. Good luck though.
 
weeks 1-8
200mg deca
200mg eq
weeks 8-11
125mg tren eod
50mg winstrol ed

i got quality gains but the shutdown was the hardest thing i have ever felt. i would not wish it upon anyone
 
umm your estrogen levels are gonna be almost non existant which will lead to some problems. I would through in some heavy aromatizable steroid, or at the very least through in nolva for your lipid profile.
 
romoranger said:
weeks 1-8
200mg deca
200mg eq
weeks 8-11
125mg tren eod
50mg winstrol ed

i got quality gains but the shutdown was the hardest thing i have ever felt. i would not wish it upon anyone

Shit man......deca+tren in same cycle w/out test.....i understand why !!!!

My first cyle was:

1-8 100 mg npp 3 times a week
1-6 30 mg Anavar ed
Nolvadex PCT

I gained 9-10 kilos lean, and didnt get severe shutdown. Very nice cycle.....
 
Here is my cycle without test:
week 1-10 deca 400mg/week
week 1-6 dbol 20mg/day
week 9-13 winstrol 50mg/eod

I really like this cycle. Still have 2 weeks to go and I am up 12 lbs and have lost 5% bf.
 
winny/masteron
winny/primo

test = instant side effects for me even at 200mg week. from tits to hairloss...im still recovering from gyno surgery so that means ill never ever touch test again, noe will i risk it, even with nolva/armi..test just doesnt work for me
 
Anthony Starks said:
Why not run the tren all 12 weeks? Also, you could shoot the tren EOD, I always do because I don't like too many injects. But I've never done it without test, so I can't help you with that part of the question. Good luck though.


also this is my second cycle and first time with tren so why run it that long?
not worth the risk..
ulter has posted several times that shooting tren ED is much better and keeps the blood levels constant..

maybe do 250 mg a week .....
 
georgie24 said:
winny/masteron
winny/primo

test = instant side effects for me even at 200mg week. from tits to hairloss...im still recovering from gyno surgery so that means ill never ever touch test again, noe will i risk it, even with nolva/armi..test just doesnt work for me
I see. I was just curious. What about the rest of the guys here that avoid test like the plague?
 
if youve had gyno surgery, didnt they remove the glands, thus eliminating the risk of further growth?? just curious!! :)
 
he took the whole gland, my chest feels much lighter and my pecs dont bounce like they used to. it feels as if a weight was removed from my shoulders
 
USe femara and u have no problems with bitch tits.....Im not a test fan either,,,but sus is alot easier than any other test........

EQ and Winny was my fav.....

Eq and deca was nice as well......
 
why is sust easier? i just dont see that as being possible with enathate and cyp available, they are all the same. prop requires a few more pokes but thats it
 
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