Stupid 18 y/o?

[TheSystemHasFailed]

Hey guys,

Just wanted to check something...

So I'm training at my gym I work at, web a colleague of mine introduces me to his mate. He explains that his friend is on steroids, and if you are me you are looking at someone who is around 5'8 and about 160lbs. His arms are the only standout point, and tbh they only looked around 10" flexed.

Anyway, my colleague just goes on to tell me this boy is taking dianabol, which I explained was ok, but IMO the gains would be hard to keep, and he had previously done a cycle of deca.

Now is it me, but bare in mind his stats, which dictated to me he didn't/doesn't have his diet in check, and his age, was this not a little premature.

I explained that he should be careful at his age because he could shut down his own testosterone production, but when I mentioned what the implications of this could be, he just laughed and said 'I don't plan on having kids anyway' and just carried on his workout.

Basically, I've reported the following story for 2 reasons.

Firstly, to check this was a pretty stupid move on his part. Especially as he knew NOTHING about potential dangers (I daren't ask him if he even ran a PCT).

And two, to see if anyone could provide me with more info/stats I could tell this clown next time I see him.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Acesopro]

Lol just sounds like a typical punk trying to get big but is too lazy to do the research.

You already tried to help him and he turned you down. I'd say leave him alone, forget about him.

 

[CoBra666]

pretty much. kids are stupid. when i was 18 i got some free test and anadrol. dont even know the doses, just popped pills like candy and started whacked needles in me. didnt know shit bout anything. year later im missing hair in the front of my head and getting gyno surgery for my almost b cup tits. test shutdown for bout a year id say before i felt normal again. he's got all he needs for test natty right now. nothing u can do will change his mind. thats that. u talk down to him or question him he will just want to prove u wrong. id just let him fuck himself up. u do things the right way and let him feel like a dumbass when all is said and done and he feels like shit, looks like shit and your doing great

 

[aryon]

Stupid, not just cause of his age but because of his stats. Even i am questioning when to start my own first cycle and I'm over 200

 

[EarthRider]

I have found, the younger they are the more they know it all

 

[CoBra666]

as he does it point out to him his hair is thinning or ask him if he is getting gyno, even if he isnt. get him to question himself. dont mention once he looks big or accredit hims actions in any way

 

[Acesopro]

He may look good for a few weeks but once he sees his gains go away and you're still getting swole, maybe he'll come back to you.

 

[stevesmi]

i dunno the love affair with steroids with young people... its gotta be the fantasy of being Arnold and having all the women etc.

when i was that age I had zero desire to juice

 

[CoBra666]

They think it's easy. Take a pill or injection and ur stronger and bigger.

 

[stevesmi]

probably a lack of parental guidance or coaching.

I was taught rightly or wrongly that you worked out 45 minutes 6X per week in the weight room and that made you stronger.. I spent the whole summer break my junior year of high school in the weight room busting my ass. then my senior year I qualified for state and went from 3rd in my county to 1st.. and was 8th in the state. maybe I should of cheated so I could of gotten top 3 in the state?? i guess thats the way kids think today.

I had a young guy at my gym ask me how much weight was on the rack after I did a set.. and I said 300.. and he said "have you always been this strong?" and I told him you gotta work out hard, gotta come in here atleast 5X per week.. he didn't like that idea by his facial expression. the idea of juicing is so much more appealing

 

[cuthroat]

I agree with Stevesmi...

We live in a society where people are after instant gratification. Nobody wants to put in the work for anything anymore whether its a career (get rich quick schemes, our failed education systems, etc), food(fast food microwave food, now now now.) Even relationships are evaporating into "lets just fuck". Same when it comes to a killer body or strength - they want it easy..."there is a pill for that"...and they think that the solution is taking a few d-bol or shooting a little test but they are the ones who lose in the long run so fuck em.

 

[TheSystemHasFailed]

He may look good for a few weeks but once he sees his gains go away and you're still getting swole, maybe he'll come back to you.

Haha that's the aim of the game. He looks more average than Joe average and was lifting extremely light to boot. Really appreciate everyone's feedback.

And yeah it's amazing how everyone is set to take the easy way out. I bust my ass in a long job, training for the police, and train 4 times a week after my long days, and there he is, stood in front on me.

A spotty 18 year old slim jim who thinks steroids are clever, and gonna get him massive. That's my nemesis right there... Lol

 

[Big A]

i use to try to help people out or give them advice regarding AAS with pct, or telling them they should wait, or if they were doing something stupid like they were too young or just generally had no idea what they were doing, but now i don't even bother, they never listen and continue what their doing so i just don't give a fuck anymore. I noticed many more kids in the last year or so where i live juicing. One of the gyms i go too i hear kids talking about what their on and other AAS related things and they are all pinner as hell. Some of them are probably 16. Their is honestly 20-30 guys who openly talk about it at this gym with theirs budds, and none of them are that big or strong, theres one guy thats pretty big but he told me hes using 2 grams of test a week plus running orals, never really comes off and hes 20.

 

[stevesmi]

^^ well if they need advice on AAS or PCT then I have to question how much research they put into it. running a cycle and just shooting at the hip is a recipe for disaster.

I think once you can answer the basic questions on your own then that is when you are ready.

questions like

1. how much and how long to run the AAS i am doing
2. what to run with it
3. what to run for PCT
4. what to look for in case something goes wrong and how to correct it on the spot
5. what size needle/syringe.. where to pin, how to pin, how to keep things sterile, avoiding complications from injections

really everything is on this site, so its just a few clicks away to answer just about anything.. so someone who doesn't take the time to read it isn't really serious in my eyes.