Stronger than anavar but similar???

[Steeltrain]

Whats a second cycle more powerful than anavar but similar with being lean mass and simple. Im not a fan of water retention and like the safe aspects of anavar. I also like oral only.

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[daveyboy2345]

tbol, winny, halo, primo acetate

 

[Steeltrain]

I was.leaning toward.primo only from my reserch sounds very similar. Is it more powerful? Anything horrible about primo only??

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[tilltheend]

Test prop, an AI, winstrol and proviron, or tbol and proviron, or winstrol and tbol mixed. It all matters your dosage honestly. I would think you would get close to the same results if not better, if you used tbol and winstrol together. If you add in test prop, you would get better gains. Or be AIDED in better gains, if your diet and training was right, and rest.

 

[ALIN]

Whats a second cycle more powerful than anavar but similar with being lean mass and simple. Im not a fan of water retention and like the safe aspects of anavar. I also like oral only.

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The only 'just' oral cycle I ever suggest is ANAVAR. As far as going after 'VAR I would have to say TBOL or WINSTROL depending ultimate goals.

 

[Nelson Montana]

The only 'just' oral cycle I ever suggest is ANAVAR. As far as going after 'VAR I would have to say TBOL or WINSTROL depending ultimate goals.

I'd go along with that. And primo tabs if you have the $$$.

 

[Steeltrain]

Nelson u say primo tabs only is ok My ultimately dont like the bloated look I already have a natural stocky and wide, lean appearance. So bloating isnt were I will feel comfortable. I herd winny will have a bad effect on my shoulder where ive had a reconstruction. Im the disable vet of this fourm I suppost .Of the U. S. Coast Guard. But any way im looking for the next step. If I had someone to hook up with experenced I would concider injection. Thanks guys for the great advice I lean a bit from everyones imput.

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[gymrat827]

wait til you see what primo costs.

all orals bloat you IMO, anavar prolly the least, well winny. but winny does not produce muscle, its great at maintaining it while in a cut. dries you out hard.

T bol is an option but i would think it would put just as much water as var would on your body. you need to break away from orals bro, save your liver.

 

[ConanX]

Tbol is the only thing I'd suggest or Beastdrol/Superdrol...winny works too, I've seen people put on some dry size with it but I'm not a fan of it because of the joint issues.
But honestly, just use Anavar again but use a higher dosage. 80-100mg ED should work nice. Otherwise the pin is the only option bro. A cycle of test prop and some var will be huge for you. First "cycle" I ever did was less than 2 months of Anavar 25mg ED. Saw great results. Wanted more. Tried test and NEVER looked back. Gained 57lbs of muscle in a year.

 

[joeblow12345]

Dont be afraid of the needle it works wonders. Everyone is hesitant about sticking their self at first until you see the gains. Then you wont give a shit.

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