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BO-CEPHUS said:


Yea, too bad the only people sacraficing would be law-abiding citizens. All you proposed laws and regulation will do zero to prevent a criminal from getting a gun. So now we have people waiting to get guns thus putting their safety at risk.

You're broadly assuming that owning a gun will necessarily offer safety to Americans that own them...which, is very often, simply not the case.
 
RyanH said:


About as happy as you are that someday, your President will be Senator Rodham-Clinton, D., from New York.

as long as people still have common sense and if there really is a god, that will never happen.
 
RyanH said:
a "moderate centrist with a liberal bent.'


Is that the new buzz term the liberal Democrats are going to use to describe their philosophy to try to sucker the 'silent majority' to vote for them in 2004? ;)
If so, I'd recommend you to change 'liberal' to 'tolerant' Nobody would dare admit (besides yourself and a few others) of voting for a liberal :)


One thing I have to agree with RyanH on, if Bush Jr. is indicative of the best the Republicans have to offer, they will always be vulnerable......
 
RyanH said:


You're broadly assuming that owning a gun will necessarily offer safety to Americans that own them...which, is very often, simply not the case.

Tell that to the 1 million plus people who used a gun to deter a criminal from harming them.
 
p0ink said:


as long as people still have common sense and if there really is a god, that will never happen.

Please explain to us why a proven leader with an outstanding education, with the experience as Co-President and United States Senator, with the articulation of great leaders such as President Kennedy, would not be good for our nation's policies and our spirit?

Senator Rodham-Clinton has been doing what's right for America for decades now.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:


Tell that to the 1 million plus people who used a gun to deter a criminal from harming them.

Even assuming your numbers are correct, 1 million citizens out of the total percentage of the American population is what percentage? far less than 1 percent I would imagine.
 
p0ink said:


as long as people still have common sense and if there really is a god, that will never happen.


I lost my hope for this country when they re-elected WJB Clinton in '96 by a landslide after all the scandals involved with his administration. As Ryan has said, the state of the economy (money) is the primary force in an election.."if it ain't broke..don't fix it" mentality
The continual re-election of Edward Kennedy is another enigma that defies logic so I do not doubt Hilliary Clinton will run for president and have a chance...
 
Mdguy said:



I lost my hope for this country when they re-elected WJB Clinton in '96 by a landslide after all the scandals involved with his administration. As Ryan has said, the state of the economy (money) is the primary force in an election.."if it ain't broke..don't fix it" mentality
The continual re-election of Edward Kennedy is another enigma that defies logic so I do not doubt Hilliary Clinton will run for president and have a chance...

Why in the world would Senator Kennedy's continous re-election surprise you when the legendary Senator has been an outspoken defender of civil rights, a defender of Social Security for our nation's elderly, and a crusader for public education so that all of our nation's children can someday contribute to society?
 
Mdguy said:



I lost my hope for this country when they re-elected WJB Clinton in '96 by a landslide after all the scandals involved with his administration. As Ryan has said, the state of the economy (money) is the primary force in an election.."if it ain't broke..don't fix it" mentality
The continual re-election of Edward Kennedy is another enigma that defies logic so I do not doubt Hilliary Clinton will run for president and have a chance...

Was Pres. Clinton removed from office? NO.

Was Pres. Clinton convicted of any wrongdoing in WhiteWater. NO!

Was Pres. Clinton proven to have acted improperly in the republican-led travel office charges? Again. NO.

In short, Pres. Clinton was only proven to have enjoyed a quick, erotic sexual encounter with a young woman. Hardly, a detriment to the nation he dramatically improved.
 
RyanH said:


Why in the world would Senator Kennedy's continous re-election surprise you when the legendary Senator has been an outspoken defender of civil rights, a defender of Social Security for our nation's elderly, and a crusader for public education so that all of our nation's children can someday contribute to society?

Really, all I can do is laugh.

civil rights- all can live with that. although it is probably more like special rights.

social security- the elderly would have much more money by simply putting the money stolen from them into a simple savings account. Oh thats right, liberals think people are not capable of thinking for themselves.

public education- simply pathetic. keep throwing more and more money and I will watch as more and more kids become less educated. Too bad most parents cannot choose where their kids go to school. Thats right, when the government steals half of you paycheck you no longer have the money to send them to a well respected private school.
 
RyanH said:


Please explain to us why a proven leader with an outstanding education, with the experience as Co-President and United States Senator, with the articulation of great leaders such as President Kennedy, would not be good for our nation's policies and our spirit?

Senator Rodham-Clinton has been doing what's right for America for decades now.

ill give you a long response for that one ryan :)
 
RyanH said:


Even assuming your numbers are correct, 1 million citizens out of the total percentage of the American population is what percentage? far less than 1 percent I would imagine.

thats still 1 million less crimes
 
RyanH said:


Why in the world would Senator Kennedy's continous re-election surprise you when the legendary Senator has been an outspoken defender of civil rights, a defender of Social Security for our nation's elderly, and a crusader for public education so that all of our nation's children can someday contribute to society?


He is re-elected because he is a powerful Senator. I would not vote for his re-election due to several factors:

1) He cheated on his Law exams at Harvard? (correct me if Harvard is the wrong school)
2) was caught getting a blowjob under a table of a posh Washington DC restaurant years back
3) MaryJo Koepekne
4) his previous alcoholism

If one can not show common sense and control in his private life in MANY instances (I'll give somebody a second or even a third chance), I am surely not to trust him in trying to look out for the best in mine..
 
BO-CEPHUS said:


Really, all I can do is laugh.

civil rights- all can live with that. although it is probably more like special rights.

social security- the elderly would have much more money by simply putting the money stolen from them into a simple savings account. Oh thats right, liberals think people are not capable of thinking for themselves.

public education- simply pathetic. keep throwing more and more money and I will watch as more and more kids become less educated. Too bad most parents cannot choose where their kids go to school. Thats right, when the government steals half of you paycheck you no longer have the money to send them to a well respected private school.

So what's your solution Bocehus? Put the elderly on the streets, leaving them to live with mice and rats, while the young prosper all around them? Or maybe we could take away free meals for impoverished children, and force them to watch other students eat. Or maybe, we can just privatize educatioon and watch the illiteracy rate climb, while other competitive nations, such as China, move ahead of us in technology and science.
 
Mdguy said:



He is re-elected because he is a powerful Senator. I would not vote for his re-election due to several factors:

1) He cheated on his Law exams at Harvard? (correct me if Harvard is the wrong school)
2) was caught getting a blowjob under a table of a posh Washington DC restaurant years back
3) MaryJo Koepekne
4) his previous alcoholism

If one can not show common sense and control in his private life in MANY instances (I'll give somebody a second or even a third chance), I am surely not to trust him in trying to look out for the best in mine..

Well, if alcoholism is a disqualifier, then Pres. Bush shouldn't be in office, since it's public knowledge that he has a history of alcohol abuse? Further, are you aware of Pres. Bush's grades while in school (maybe he should have considered cheating to boost his GPA to an acceptable level)?

As for the blowjob and Ms. Kepekne, was Senator Kennedy convicted of either?
 
RyanH said:


So what's your solution Bocehus? Put the elderly on the streets, leaving them to live with mice and rats, while the young prosper all around them? Or maybe we could take away free meals for impoverished children, and force them to watch other students eat. Or maybe, we can just privatize educatioon and watch the illiteracy rate climb, while other competitive nations, such as China, move ahead of us in technology and science.

Why would the elderly be on the streets? Do you know a single person who receives a social security check? My great grandma does and let me tell you that is is not even close to providing what she needs to survive. Luckily, she was RESPONSIBLE and had other means of savings in order to get by. She will never get back what she has paid in. Most will die before they ever even reach the required age thus they have thrown away money that could have been used to better their life.

Im not exactly sure what needs to be done about education. But the facts speak for themselves. Education has become worse and worse every year even while receiving more and more money. Something needs to be done. Parents should be able to have the choice of where their children go to school and what they will be learning. I have no interest in my children learning about tolerance, how to save the earth, fisting, and the liberal agenda.
 
Been interesting. I'm off for the night to begin reading the recent biography on Pres. Adams.

Remember, though, it is our civic duty to help those who cannot help themselves.

Goodnight,
Ryan.
 
RyanH said:
Been interesting. I'm off for the night to begin reading the recent biography on Pres. Adams.

Remember, though, it is our civic duty to help those who cannot help themselves.

Goodnight,
Ryan.

You are right. It is OUR duty not the governments duty. I should be able to choose who I help and how I help them. I do not want some blue hair in Washington deciding who my money goes to simply because they are getting their dicked sucked by some special interest.
 
p0ink said:
If large corporations have tax breaks and will be able to keep more of *THEIR* money that *THEY* earned, they would have more money to spend, with the more money they have to spend, the more people they are able to higher. the more jobs, the lower the unemployment rate, the lower the unemployment rate, the more money being spread around.

Actually, historically tax cuts to big corps tend to mean large raises for upper level managers and investment in plant and equipment, not more or better-paying entry level jobs, which is where the unemployed start out.
 
RyanH said:


I heard a similar refrain in 1990 when Bush Sr. had very high popularity ratings.

OUTCOME: Bill Clinton became President of the United States of America instead.
That was the year that Ross Perot was leading for a while. People were hard up for a change due to the worst recession since the Depression.

Perot cost Bush the election. There can be no doubt. The vast majority of his supporters would have voted for Bush since they generally had some family values.

I'd like the democratic party a lot more if they gave a rats ass about the family. They seem bent on the continued assault on the family.
 
Test boy said:
I'd like the democratic party a lot more if they gave a rats ass about the family. They seem bent on the continued assault on the family.

What do you mean? Not flaming or debating, just curious what you mean.

Wyst
 
RyanH said:


About as happy as you are that someday, your President will be Senator Rodham-Clinton, D., from New York.

hahaahahaahaaaha

ok there Corky
 
RyanH said:


Please explain to us why a proven leader with an outstanding education, with the experience as Co-President and United States Senator, with the articulation of great leaders such as President Kennedy, would not be good for our nation's policies and our spirit?

Senator Rodham-Clinton has been doing what's right for America for decades now.

hell yeah.. I mean Jesus... New York loves her!!! I know our NYC Police and Fire Dept. love her!!
 
spentagn said:


It's called a history book.

Hmm. Are talking about immoral acts peformed by the dems (examples), or policies they've endorsed? That's what I was getting at. Cos it seems to me that both of the major parties have pretty sad records in both cases, personally.
 
wyst said:


Hmm. Are talking about immoral acts peformed by the dems (examples), or policies they've endorsed? That's what I was getting at. Cos it seems to me that both of the major parties have pretty sad records in both cases, personally.

Actually, it was a stab at humor. Sorry to disappoint.
 
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