Strength, Size, and Endurance

[Tom Treutlein]

Is it possible to train for strength and size, whilst at the same time going for endurance? Say, lifting weights for the strength and size and doing bodyweight exercises 5x a week, slowly increasing the reps so you become more, eh...durable?

 

[athlete0185]

when i think of endurance..i think of running. i train using the 5x5, and have gotten both size and strength, while staying pretty lean. i do sprints and ride the bike. ive got great endurance. all while hovering around 11% bf, with no diet whatsoever. that probably doesnt help you at all, but im just giving my input.

 

[zxe003]

When You Say Endurance Are You Talking Muscle Endurance Or Aerobic? Assuming That You Mean Muscle Endurance...i Would Say Continue Your Routine And Keep Upping The Weight. But Also Concenrate On Shorter Rest Periods...say 30 Sec.'s Or Less Between Sets. You'll Find Your Muscles Will Not Fatigue As Quickly Over Time And You'll Also Be Able To Slowly Start To Increase Your Reps And Sets. Takes Some Getting Used To In The Beginning. You May Have To Lighten Your Loads Initially, But Stick With It And You'll Be Happy With The Results.

 

[coolcolj]

the stronger you are the more reps you can do with a certain weight, it doesn't get much easier than that

 

[sconoscuito]

depends on what kinda endurance you lookin for

I go out and play ball for 3-4 hours going balls out and after that I still hit the weightroom but I wouldnt be able to lift as much weight as the big guy next to me

now theres times when some big guy comes into the gym to play some ball and after 10 minutes he cant breath no more, cant keep up with us, cant catch the ball or even think straight...

so it depends what type of endurance you looking for

all I know is taht if I'm in a good shape on the court I feel stronger and overall just feel better in the weighroom

now when I'm just hittin the weights and not playin bball I go out of shape real quick and both endurance in the weighroom and on the court goes down for me

so I think doin some aerobic activity is good eitehr way you look at it...

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Well, cardiovascular edurance is what you mean. That's important too, but I can take care of that with some cardio or sprints. My concern was with muscular endurance. I noticed most friends of mine who bench heavy and such can do maybe 20 pushups max, so I don't see how your idea carries over, CCJ. A friend of mine can bench 285, and only do 25 pushups, whereas I can bench 200 on a good day and do 60 pushups. What's the deal there? Is it just that I can do the movement and am used to higher reps with them?

Basically, can I bench heavy like him, but also do pushups and slowly increase the reps so I have a lot of endurance? I don't think being able to bench 500 means you can necessarily do tons more pushups than someone who benches less than you.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Well, cardiovascular edurance is what you mean. That's important too, but I can take care of that with some cardio or sprints. My concern was with muscular endurance. I noticed most friends of mine who bench heavy and such can do maybe 20 pushups max, so I don't see how your idea carries over, CCJ. A friend of mine can bench 285, and only do 25 pushups, whereas I can bench 200 on a good day and do 60 pushups. What's the deal there? Is it just that I can do the movement and am used to higher reps with them?

Basically, can I bench heavy like him, but also do pushups and slowly increase the reps so I have a lot of endurance? I don't think being able to bench 500 means you can necessarily do tons more pushups than someone who benches less than you.

Periodization.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Alright, pointed me in the direction, but can you elaborate a bit as to how that would give me size, strength and the muscular endurance I seek?

 

[b fold the truth]

If you are looking for size, strength, and endurance...you can achieve all pretty well. None of them to their fullest potential if you do them all at once.

B True

 

[casualbb]

B is correct. That has to do with training the different energy pathways. Your bench buddy has only trained the short-term energy pathway, while it sounds like you do a lot of higher rep stuff, even 60+ on pushups.

The body will adapt to rep-ranges with strength targeted to that rep range. But like CCJ said, maximal strength will carry over to some degree to endurance.

All in all, specificity principle: train something in exactly the way you want it to improve.

 

[aerowana]

I say this has got to do with muscle fibre type. You train for endurance means you train the type 1 fiber, etc.

Also, as they say, jack of all trades but master of none. Which world class sprinter is also a world class marathoner? None.....