Strength going down since 8th week

[fitwizard]

Bro's you gotta help me solve this shit.

First some stats: over 4 years training, genetics are terrible as does genetic potential. I am much more than a hardgainer.

Second cycle is:
WK1-4 DBOLS 35-40mg ed
WK1-10 Test Enathate 750mg / 450mg EQ
WK8-10 Durabolin 300mg
of course arimidex and everything legit

Nutrition is excellent and percise with 7-9 meals a day and over 450g protein a day

Mass isn't great as well, but considering that my genetic potential proved shit also prior to AS, it's fine. I'm at the 10th week right now with LBM up about 9.5lb and FAT up 8lb.

Training 4 times a week:
MON-Lats/Bis, WED-Pecs/Tris, FRI-Legs, SAT-Delts,Traps,Abs

Anyway,
Starting approx at my 7th week workouts began to suck. intensity is going down and strength is going down. That shit is happening for about 3 weeks (I'm starting last 10th week of cycle tomorrow)

I gotta say that up to the 7th week my strength has jumped through the roof on many exercises.

I'm just back from my gym, and today was my worest workout ever in the last few weeks. Example: Leg extensions was 250x4 instead of 250x8 3-4 weeks ago, so does laying leg curls going down to 200x4 instead of 200x8.

With a considerably heavy cycle that I'm in and all the cals that I eat and train about 4 times a week at high-intensity for 60min, that doesn't seem like I'm overtraining right? Maybe I'm wrong and do overtrain, I though about taking a complete week off. But something tell me this is nuts doing this while still ON. And it I do take a week break, should I start with lower poundage?

God I'm damn confused, being that I love Bodybuilding so much only makes it harder.

I would appreciate any detailed suggestion.

Thanks

 

[fitwizard]

comeon help me on this one Vets and Mods.

 

[Him1]

how much weight have you gained?

2 thoughts.

1. Is the only macro you keep high protein? I ask cuz thats the only one you listed. If you're only eating 250 carbs/day, then thats why your energy levels are low.

2. How much weight have you gained? Ex: If you went from 200 to 225, then you obviously require more calories, especially carbs(I'm a big believer in LOTS of carbs for energy, and as a protein buffer) to continue to gain.

My .02

 

[Vageta]

Without much else to go on I'd say you could have simply burnt out your body during those first 7 weeks. I'm not sure how long you're in the gym, but if you are truely a hardgainer then you could simply be overtraining. It usually takes some time for overtraining to catch up with you, it's not an overnight thing. Just because you're on gear doesn't make you a superhuman, you still need lots of rest and time off from the gym.

My recommendation is to take it easy next week in the gym. Drop your volume and weights and try to get lots of rest. With a nice light week you may come back the week after stronger than ever. Also you mention lots of protein but make sure you are getting a lot of carbs as well. You need fuel to get through workouts and support muscle growth. If you concentrate too much on protein you'll neglect the other nutrients that play just as big as a role in muscle growth.

Also it seems kind of fishy that your strength started getting worst with the 7th week. This is when your test and EQ should have really kicked in so there is a chance they are fake or severly underdosed. Could be that your Dbol caused most of the strength and mass gains in the first part of the cycle and then once you stopped taking them your results halted. I know you took them for only 4 weeks but the blood levels could have stayed elevated for another week or 2 and once they wore off your progress stopped.

 

[tury]

it was probably the loss of strength, water and increased protein synthsis from the d-bol that did that.

 

[strong island]

Two questions

How much do you weigh?

How many calories are you eating?


If you want to grow you need to EAT!!

As you grow you have keep increasing the calories or you might plateau.

 

[fitwizard]

1. Is the only macro you keep high protein? I ask cuz thats the only one you listed. If you're only eating 250 carbs/day, then thats why your energy levels are low.

My carb instake is just as high. Example for the 11th april nutrition: 490g Protein, 429g Carb, 57g Fat. And all very hight quality ones.

This is when your test and EQ should have really kicked in so there is a chance they are fake or severly underdosed

No way. They have been purchased from a VERY reliable source down here. Very. They are legit. That's why I also get incredible acne on my back and sore nipples.

How much do you weigh?
How many calories are you eating?
If you want to grow you need to EAT!!
As you grow you have keep increasing the calories or you might plateau.

I currently weight 167lb(height 175cm). Believe me I eat MUCH more than I need. I am at the 3800-4500cals a day which is WAY OVER for someone who weights only around 170lb !

 

[Beezers]

I currently weight 167lb(height 175cm). Believe me I eat MUCH more than I need. I am at the 3800-4500cals a day which is WAY OVER for someone who weights only around 170lb !

Your caloric intake isn't "way over" for a hardgainer of your size. Often times true lighter weight hard gainers who do train brutaly hard will need 5500-6000 cals a day to overcompinsate for thier metabolism. Comparing calorie consumption recomendations for the general population to those required of serious athletes is a gross misinterpritation and misrepresentation. So one possibility is inadequate calorie intake in the form of carbohydrate. You have to compensate for your newly added muscle tissue with more calories. It doesn't appear as though you're overtraining, but if your lifestyle is off (lack of sleep, going out too much, drinking) then obviously overtraining becomes likely. More rest would be only bennificial. Nap if you can. Are you drinking ample water...and water only. Hydration is crucial. Being dehydrated will cause a marked decrease in performance and anabolism.