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To his credit, he stood up to someone who certainly appeared to be physically and athletically more gifted than he was.

Got his ass kicked for his trouble..........
 
fuck knows who started it....thankfully someone was there to stop that shit since the white guy didnt land one strike......
 
He really had is ass handed to him. I've seen a taped street fight online where one guy beats the crap out of 3 punk teens at once. I have to find that again. :D
 
WizKid25 said:
He really had is ass handed to him. I've seen a taped street fight online where one guy beats the crap out of 3 punk teens at once. I have to find that again. :D
that stupid fight is everywhere.It's mike valley fighting 4 goons.In all actuality,he did'nt land one blow.I slowed down the footage,and not one swing landed.Oh well.
 
I could kick both fo their asses at the same time then floss my teeth with the black kids arms.

The only good hits were the first two the black kid got in.
 
1) take off sweatshirt
2) take off hat
3) pullup pants
4) don't telegraph your punches
5) don't flinch
6) one leg takedowns are usefull
7) combos help
8) guard is a good form of defense while on the bottom
9) keep feet under you



All in all though a weak fight both kids were able to walk away wihtout any major injuries. No clean punches landed....
 
SUPERNAV

HE WASNT A GOOD FIGHTER.....HE COULDNT EVEN ESTABLISH A BASE WHEN HE HAD MOUNT POSITION AND HE SWUNG LIKE A LITTLE GIRL. THE GUY WAS FUCKING STANDING AND WALKING EVEN AFTER ALL THE WEAK ASS HITS HE TOOK. IF THE BLACK DUDE WAS A GOOD FIGHTER, THE LITTLE GUY WOULD HAVE BEEN HURT. ESPECIALLY SINCE HE BASICALLY TIED HIMSELF UP WITH HIS SHIRT. FUCKING IDIOT.




KAYNE
 
supernav said:
Skinny white boys can't dance *or* fight.

Never take on street ghetto blacks unless you KNOW your fighting shit. Word of advice. He's lucky that other black kid stepped in and stopped it. Nice to see that boy's other white friends just sat there and were all too scared shitless to step in and do nothing.

Great friends u got there buddy! With friends like that to watch your back, who needs enemies.
-= nav =-
so are you saying this black kid was a ghetto street gangster just because of his white t-shirt and sand monkey do rag on his head? if your applying this, then all black people are ghetto gang bangers! hey good assumption:lmao:j/k

good point though, most blacks can fight, probably because most are built like a good boxer would be, natural muscular, long reach etc. and I guess because most hide their fear well, or have a lack of a soul(joke) who knows, but it's true. good thing one of the two blacks guys had enough since to stop the fight. if the other was not there, the black dude is probably so stupid he would have killed him, and been just another in prison.

I on the other hand would have bitch slapped him(palm first) across the face(much faster than a punch)stunning him, while making his eyes move in another direction, then gone for a take down.
 
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sermon_of_mockery said:
that stupid fight is everywhere.It's mike valley fighting 4 goons.In all actuality,he did'nt land one blow.I slowed down the footage,and not one swing landed.Oh well.


that's a mike vallely clip?

I thought he was famous for fighting a security guard.

for those who don't know, Mike Vallely is a popular professional skateboarder with a reputation for going against the grain.
 
sermon_of_crockery said:



that's a mike vallely clip?

I thought he was famous for fighting a security guard.

for those who don't know, Mike Vallely is a popular professional skateboarder with a reputation for going against the grain.
yes crockery:lmao:
I've also seen that clip of him fighting a security guard.Big fat black guy,but nothing really happens just pushing.
 
There is no way that stupid shit could have possibly landed the first blow even if the black dude had the reaction time of a 90 year-old man. He was a good two or three feet away and telegraphed it big time. He was lucky to even be able to stand afterwards. If I were in mr. doorag's shoes whitey would be in a hospital bed. haha
 
The white guy should seriously consider either a gun or pepper spray/Taser. Then you're sure these things wont happen anymore :)
 
i think he shoulkd have had the fucking brains to realise his scrawny ass friends arent gonna win against a whole bunch of big black guys


MAJOR props to the guy who stopped it......that little guy lucked out


incidentally there was this little period when he was just about to get mounted where he could have got a sweet ball strike in....lucky he didnt, that shit probably would have got him stabbed :D
 
that makes me so angry watching these things!!!!!!!!!

I get so pissed off and am like goddamn it why are you doing this instead of this!?!?

Anyone else like that? Like get really mad?

Dammit i would...well I won't say what I would have done, but anywya, it would not have amounted to covering my head and giving up, it would have amounted to those homies pulling out their guns because they woud have no physical quarter.
 
Hey get your ass back on the evolution thread........I'm waiting for a response........

big_bad_buff said:

so are you saying this black kid was a ghetto street gangster just because of his white t-shirt and sand monkey do rag on his head? if your applying this, then all black people are ghetto gang bangers! hey good assumption:lmao:j/k

good point though, most blacks can fight, probably because most are built like a good boxer would be, natural muscular, long reach etc. and I guess because most hide their fear well, or have a lack of a soul(joke) who knows, but it's true. good thing one of the two blacks guys had enough since to stop the fight. if the other was not there, the black dude is probably so stupid he would have killed him, and been just another in prison.

I on the other hand would have bitch slapped him(palm first) across the face(much faster than a punch)stunning him, while making his eyes move in another direction, then gone for a take down.
 
I just watched again the video and when he was on the ground, he should have grabbed the black guy's nutsack and twist his balls or press them.....
 
Thats not a Mike Valley clip.
The dumb-ass who said it was didn't even watch the clip before posting.
 
ok first off the guy in the sweatshirt, is an idiot for wearing the sweat shirt, holly shit was that not the slowest punch ever?

could you tellagraph it anymorethe full turn and all, going for a one punch K.O first shot isnt the smartest way to go about it.

that kid in the t-shirt didnt even fucking lay down a good beating, he had the kid in the second worst possible position he could be in, the first being face down on the ground where he is vulnerable for a choke out, he was just throwing damn arm punchs the whole time.

I was going to say that kid sure has a solid chin but watching the replay, the kid in the white t-shirt landed like what fucking 2 punches, the first that stuned and sent that little bitch to the ground and one more on the way down, o yeah i guess i cant forget to mention that attempted kick to the nutsack (chicken shit move).

Whatever shitty fight, but kind of amusing.
 
Mike Valley is a punk. I might be wrong but I think I just saw a 14 yr old fighting.Was somebody expecting, Tito Ortiz.Get a good ass beating thats how most of us learn. First thing you learn is how to take a punch.Once you get comfortable with that its all smooth.
 
wild swings like that will easily result in a broken hand. If you have someone down like that atleast take the effort into landing good shots...not just swing and pray something hits.

yeah it seemed like a 13yr old fight on a playground so what can you expect.
 
correct me if i'm wrong, but i never saw the white guy in the gaurd. I only saw the black guy already passed the white guys gaurd, in a full mount. but maybe i got my terms all fucked up.
 
Code said:
Thats not a Mike Valley clip.
The dumb-ass who said it was didn't even watch the clip before posting.
re-read the thread "dumb-ass" the topic was changed to mike valley later on.Take your driscoll's.
 
collegiateLifter said:
correct me if i'm wrong, but i never saw the white guy in the gaurd. I only saw the black guy already passed the white guys gaurd, in a full mount. but maybe i got my terms all fucked up.


YOU ARE RIGHT....THE WHITE GUY WAS MOUNTED BUT THE BLACK GUY HAD NO CLUE WHAT HE WAS DOING. HE COULDNT EVEN ESTABLISH A BASE AND STAY IN MOUNT POSITION. SHIT, HE COULDNT EVEN HURT THE WHITE GUY WHEN HE HIT HIM. HE IS A BITCH.




KAYNE
 
its funny when the black dude gets whitey on the ground, then proceeds to beat him like a 50 yearold women hitting a mugger with her purse...

why dont people like this ever pick fights with me?
 
shit guys i wouldnt know what to do if i was the white dude with the black guy mounted on top of me other than a) cover my face b)try to catch the black guy with my legs c) punch him in the balls.
 
Drifter said:
No shit Rush, I was thinking the same thing. Must be from watching all those Pride fighting videos.


WATCH ALL THE PRIDE FIGHTS YOU WANT AND THEN COME TRAIN WITH ME FOR A FEW DAYS. YOU'LL STILL GET YOUR ASS HANDED TO YOU.




KAYNE
 
YOU CAN BE TOUGH LIKE ME ALSO....JUST ORDER THE PRIDE COMPILATION, WATCH AND LEARN. NO INSTRUCTION NEEDED. JUST BY WATCHING YOU CAN BE TOUGH LIKE ME, UHH THEM.



KAYNE
 
Hmm..Ok you watch pride fights, but......I've played Street Fighter 2 since I was 14..have some experience with part one...Have mastered MK2, 3, Killer instinct 1, Tekken 1,2,3, and a few Capcom Vs. games.

I'd completely tear you a new universe.
 
Burning_Inside said:
Hmm..Ok you watch pride fights, but......I've played Street Fighter 2 since I was 14..have some experience with part one...Have mastered MK2, 3, Killer instinct 1, Tekken 1,2,3, and a few Capcom Vs. games.

I'd completely tear you a new universe.


I WONT FUCK WITH YOU THEN....YOU MUST BE REALLY TOUGH. SHIT. I'M GLAD YOU TOLD ME BEFORE I STARTED INVITING YOU TO COME DOWN AND MEET ME FOR A FIGHT!!!



KAYNE
 
I'd play about 4 hours of Tekken 4 beforehand. When you saw me after that, you'd just know, and you'd walk away.

I MIGHT even watch this video again also.
 
i remember about 2 yrs ago i fought some punk ass kid. He reminded me of this fight. He was supposedly the "toughest kid ever" told to me by his friends. He came at me like the white kid and took one swing and then all i did was pop him once in the face and he fell to the ground. He curled up in the fetal position too after a couple of punches. It's so funny how the hard ass guys think they are so god damn tough.

The gym i work at has a boxing area with a speed bag and a heavy bag. I regularly use the stuff and I am pretty decent at both. A lot of times you see these guys come in and put the gloves on and do the Curly Shuffle around the heavy bag. They all do the "slap hit" which is an open handed punch because they think it makes them tough because it makes a louder sound. Get real. I actually saw one guy doing gay spinning karate kicks to the hevay bag and trying to teach his friend how to do it to. Give me two minutes with these morons and they would be in a coma.
 
Burning_Inside said:
Hmm..Ok you watch pride fights, but......I've played Street Fighter 2 since I was 14..have some experience with part one...Have mastered MK2, 3, Killer instinct 1, Tekken 1,2,3, and a few Capcom Vs. games.

I'd completely tear you a new universe.


ahhh, but i see you have not mastered soul calibur, soul edge, or soul calibur 2.. the soul fights are the matches of the millenia, you must be at least 800 years old to enter.


p.s. go to kazaa and download a clip called drunk kids playing fight club or something like that. its some funny shit.
 
nice post...i've watched this shit like 20 tines.

i'm mortal kombat 2 master and champion. i used to do tournaments on the arcade version in college. i used to bang the MK groupies afterwards and perform friendships on them. smooth.

whitey got his ass beat
 
I figured if anyone would appreciate this footage, you guys would.

The black guy was really fast. All arm punches, but the were coming down so quick. If he really learned to throw a punch he could have done some serious damage.

White kid just wanted to survive after missing the big haymaker.
 
rushx79 said:



ahhh, but i see you have not mastered soul calibur, soul edge, or soul calibur 2.. the soul fights are the matches of the millenia, you must be at least 800 years old to enter.


p.s. go to kazaa and download a clip called drunk kids playing fight club or something like that. its some funny shit.

That's where you're wrong. I mastered Soul Edge one night at a friends huose a few years back.

i completely mastered Hwang on Soul Calibur , and came close with a few other characters.

I don't divulge this info for obvious reasons, but beings you called me out.....
 
Watching shit like this really pisses me off, cuz I'm thinking "Fuckin fight white boy! You started it fucking finish it!" Yet he gets his ass beat while his friends are like "O shit if I step in I'll get my ass beat too!"

That last kick where the black guy tried to get him in the balls is enough where one of his friends shoulda done something. Kick a kid in the balls after all that? You deserve to get fucked the hell up.
 
I DONT THINK IT WAS FRIENDS AGAINST FRIENDS...I THINK EVERYONE OUT THERE WERE OUT THERE FOR A REASON (I.E.. A FOOTBALL GAME OR SOMETHING) AND THE FIGHT JUST HAPPENED. IT SOUNDED LIKE THE WHITE DUDE WAS TALKING SHIT TO THE BLACK DUDE FROM WHAT HE WAS SAYING AND IT JUST GREW FROM THERE. NOT GROUPS OF FRIENDS FIGHTING.




KAYNE
 
teen1216 said:
Watching shit like this really pisses me off, cuz I'm thinking "Fuckin fight white boy! You started it fucking finish it!" Yet he gets his ass beat while his friends are like "O shit if I step in I'll get my ass beat too!"

That last kick where the black guy tried to get him in the balls is enough where one of his friends shoulda done something. Kick a kid in the balls after all that? You deserve to get fucked the hell up.

How dare you racial profile. You should say "kid with black thing on his head" instead of black kid, and "kid in sweater" for white kid.
 
That's one fake ass motherfucking fight for sure. I've seen punches and kicks on WWE that looked more realistic than some of those. Like when you kick someone laying on the ground, you fuckin' KICK them. There's a definite, solid contact that makes you wince when you're watching it. All those punches that black dude was throwing looked like piss poor pitter-patter little pieces of shit too.

Not trying to sound like Mr. Badass know-it-all, but this shit seems pretty obvious to me.
 
The little dude made about every single error in a street fight you could make...Wearing loose clothing...Swinging with a lead right hand from WAY outside against a very tall opponent...Letting the guy mount him,etc.,etc.,etc...The fact that he wasn't completely out cold is testiment to what an equally poor(for his size/physical adavantages)fighter the bigger guy was.
If a guy made that FIRST mistake(swinging with a lead punch from way outside)like that against me,he would be wondering what happened an hour later as the medics administered smelling salts.The fight would be over immediately.
Also,the bigger guy looked like a fucking moron for all the carrying on and screaming he was doing afterwards...Did he think he was some kind of fucking hero/badass for kicking the ass off of some 5'3",110 lb weakling?If I smashed some little dude like that,I would get up off of him,tell him he's done and walk off.The last thing I would be doing is carrying on like I was the man for smashing some dude half my size.
 
skaman607 said:
What's telegraphed, and mounting? I guess you can tell that I'm not much of a fighter.:)

Telegraphed means you gave away that you were going to punch and where, in other words you took your time and drew your arm back really far.

Mounted means what it sounds like. You jump on top of the guy.
 
TELEGRAPHING IS JUST THAT......IT APPLIES TO BASICALLY ANY SPORT WHERE SUPRISE OR QUICKNESS IS A NECESSATY (I.E...FOOTBALL, BOXING, ETC). IT IS THE WAY YOU DO SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS YOUR OPPONENT TO KNOW WHATS COMING.

MOUNTING IS A DOMINANT POSITION IN A FIGHT (I.E...MIXED MARTIAL ARTS). A TOP MOUNT IS WHEN YOUR OPPONENT IS UNDER YOU WITH HIS LEGS BEHIND YOUR LEGS. IF HE IS ON HIS BACK AND HIS LEGS ARE WRAPPED AROUND YOUR WASTE, THAT IS A GUARD (WHICH IS THE DOMINANT POSITION).



KAYNE
 
Don't know about that nav. The best NHB fighters in the world are skinny white boys. Ive been submission wrestling for years and can tell no difference between whites or blacks. I think most white people are very intimidated by blacks though mostly because they stick together. White boys cant box for shit but but when anything goes stats will tell you whites are best in high level competition.


supernav said:
Skinny white boys can't dance *or* fight.

Never take on street ghetto blacks unless you KNOW your fighting shit. Word of advice. He's lucky that other black kid stepped in and stopped it. Nice to see that boy's other white friends just sat there and were all too scared shitless to step in and do nothing.

Great friends u got there buddy! With friends like that to watch your back, who needs enemies.

-= nav =-
 
KA-BAR said:
Don't know about that nav. The best NHB fighters in the world are skinny white boys. Ive been submission wrestling for years and can tell no difference between whites or blacks. I think most white people are very intimidated by blacks though mostly because they stick together. White boys cant box for shit but but when anything goes stats will tell you whites are best in high level competition.




GREAT POST!!! I DONT GUESS SOME PEOPLE REALIZE THIS. THEY JUDGE THIS ISSUE BY BOXING ALONE. WHICH BTW, WHITES ARE GOOD AT, JUST DONT HAVE THAT MANY DOING IT.




KAYNE
 
KAYNE said:



GREAT POST!!! I DONT GUESS SOME PEOPLE REALIZE THIS. THEY JUDGE THIS ISSUE BY BOXING ALONE. WHICH BTW, WHITES ARE GOOD AT, JUST DONT HAVE THAT MANY DOING IT.




KAYNE

Damn right man. Everyone acts like blacks are the dominant force in boxing its because SOOO many more of them box to try to make a living than white guys do. I have seen some damn good white boxers when I was training.
 
SupraHero said:


Damn right man. Everyone acts like blacks are the dominant force in boxing its because SOOO many more of them box to try to make a living than white guys do. I have seen some damn good white boxers when I was training.


I WISH TOMMY MORRISON WOULD HAVE KEPT A GOOD HEAD ON HIS SHOULDERS.....HE COULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE GREAT ONES. NOW LOOK AT HIM.....HE HAS AIDS AND CANT EVEN STRAIGHTEN HIS ARMS DUE TO A BOTCHED BICEP IMPLANT PROCEDURE. NOT TO MENTION HE IS IN JAIL (ATLEAST HE WAS). WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT.

KLITSCHKO (BOTH BROTHERS) ARE GOOD HEAVY WEIGHTS. EVEN THOUGH THE YOUNGER ONE LOST THE OTHER NIGHT, HE IS ONLY 26. I THINK BOTH WILL BE CHAMPS EVENTUALLY.

MICKEY WARD IS AWESOME. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. ARTURRO GATTI IS HALF WHITE....HE'S BAD ASS TO.

HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK IN THE MIXED MARTIAL ARTS (REAL FIGHTING) LIKE KABAR SAID, ALL THE TOP GUYS ARE WHITE. QUITE A FEW LATINO GUYS BUT MORE WHITE GUYS FROM THE U.S. THAT IS THE REAL BENCH MARK OF FIGHTING!!!





KAYNE
 
True the best all around fighters are white, or brazillian. I agree with Kayne MMA is the true benchmark of fighting, and blacks dont do well.

Example: physical specimen like kevin randleman getting knocked the fuck out by my boy chuck lidell.

Dont want to knock all the blacks in NHB Din thomas is a good freind of mine which I have trained with for years.
 
fuckin hurts my hand watching that.

and as some one said before, leg takedowns very effective strike few use.
 
:devil:
Wow! It's almost intimidating to be in the chat room with all the great caliber of fighters here. I realy liked when Nav called the white guy a cracker, Nav being white and all. What you all don't realize is the white kid is Trench Coat Mafia so school is going to end early tomorrow. I think the asshole who taped the fight should get his ass kicked by the white kid for taping it.
 
Ahh Nav, why do you always have to be such a know-all? It does get tiring after a while....

as for that fight, that is what high schools fights are like - esp., with 2 people who are full of adrenalin and don't know how to handle it.

I'm not too sure that his clothing would have made any differnce to his ability, I don't know how many of you thought about what you were going to wear to school just in case you were in a fight. if so, change schools...

i agree, great to see so many tough guys on this board... lol
 
Spanky,

I don't think anyone is saying you shouldn't wear those clothes to school in case you might fight, but when the prospect of a fight becomes inevitable, it would be in that kids best interest to remove the huge sweatshirt.
 
Just curious, how many people posting here have been in a REAL, STREET FIGHT? Not some playing around fight, training, or fight with a buddy, but a real life situation?

Honestly.

If so, how'd you do?

fyi, every fight I've been in sober, I've won. Every fight I've been in while drinking, I've lost. Guess that's telling me something....
 
I am a bouncer so almost everynight I am engaged in a pysical struggle.

granted it helps that I am sober and they most likely are tanked.

I had a kid throw a first punch at me much like in the video last week, knotted his forhead with a quick jab.

I never profess to be a great fighter, I know some moves, can lock anyone up and at 200 pounds with quick speed I can be a handleful for most. But theres always guys who could wax me, hopefully that guy does not enter my bar anytime soon.
 
alien amp pharm said:
Just curious, how many people posting here have been in a REAL, STREET FIGHT? Not some playing around fight, training, or fight with a buddy, but a real life situation?

Honestly.

If so, how'd you do?

Way too many...I graduated in a high school where I was one of only a handful of white dudes,so everyday was like walking on to a Battlefield.Not to mention everyone knew I was a boxer,so all the thugs wanted that glory of being the guy(or guys)who beat up the boxer...I have injuries from those days that will never go away.My hands are mangled,as well as other facial and body injuries.Street fighting is not fun.
 
HighIntensity said:
I am a bouncer so almost everynight I am engaged in a pysical struggle.

granted it helps that I am sober and they most likely are tanked.

I had a kid throw a first punch at me much like in the video last week, knotted his forhead with a quick jab.

I never profess to be a great fighter, I know some moves, can lock anyone up and at 200 pounds with quick speed I can be a handleful for most. But theres always guys who could wax me, hopefully that guy does not enter my bar anytime soon.

Wow you are so modest. Most of the people on this thread just went on about how bad they would've beat the other guy, blah blah blah.

A man who knows and admits his limitations........Bravo!
 
KAYNE said:

MOUNTING IS A DOMINANT POSITION IN A FIGHT (I.E...MIXED MARTIAL ARTS). A TOP MOUNT IS WHEN YOUR OPPONENT IS UNDER YOU WITH HIS LEGS BEHIND YOUR LEGS. IF HE IS ON HIS BACK AND HIS LEGS ARE WRAPPED AROUND YOUR WASTE, THAT IS A GUARD (WHICH IS THE DOMINANT POSITION).



KAYNE

i'm not sure how effective the gaurd would be in a street fight. It seems all too easy to punch the guy in the balls, if you are in his gaurd.
 
am i the only one who gives the black guy a big FUCK YOU???

if i was a spectator to that fight, no matter what side, i would have been on that fucker like a fly on shit. there is absolutely no reason to kick a man while he's down

fuckin ghetto ass bitches :fro:


i give the little dude credit. you can just tell with gut instinct when someone is just talking shit to you and when your gonna have to fight fight no matter what. he recognized he wasnt gonna get out of it and tried to connect to save his ass, even though is was a poor shot, lol
 
Looks more like a pasture fight, or maybe a open field fight, but not a street fight.


BTW, I do think it's quite funny that the white boy's friends just stood there petrified while the poor lad got pummeled.
 
There is so much bullshit on this thread, I don't know where to begin.

supernav, have you ever even been in a fight before?

And what's with all the black/white bullshit?

Both of these guys would have been eaten alive if they'd been fighting someone who knew how to fight.

Both of these guys can't strike or grapple for shit.

If you ask me, the taller guy could have hurt him much worse if he wanted or had the skill to do it, but NO ONE who has 30 seconds of one of my beatings would get up like that. Why? Read below.

Here's my advice to both fighters:

Smaller guy - Never stand toe to toe with a taller or faster fighter. Take them down using a double-leg and work the inside where YOU have the advantage. And, for god's sake, learn how to fight before you take on someone bigger than yourself. Pride and courage are good and all, and you proved you can take a beating, but that's about all you proved. Decide before you start fighting where the fight will be; ground or feet. Don't throw a punch and then try a take down when it doesn't land.

Bigger guy - Never throw a hundred, wild punches and waste your energy or take the chance of breaking your hand on someone's skull. One day, you will have enough power to break bones when you punch; make sure they aren't your own. Don't waste oxygen screaming like a girl during the fight, either; it makes you look silly and scared to an experienced fighter. Tell your buddies to stay out of your fights, and learn some grappling skills.
 
collegiateLifter said:


i'm not sure how effective the gaurd would be in a street fight. It seems all too easy to punch the guy in the balls, if you are in his gaurd.

YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NVR BEEN IN AN ARM BAR OR SOME TYPE OF SUBMISSION FROM A GUARD. GRANTED IN FIGHTS LIKE THIS IT IS BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. I MEAN SHIT, THE GUY COULDNT EVEN HOLD A FULL MOUNT FOR HIS LACK OF ESTABLISHING BASE. HOWEVER, IF TWO PEOPLE EVEN REMOTELY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING, ITS ALL GOOD!!!


KAYNE
 
Big Johnson said:
There is so much bullshit on this thread, I don't know where to begin.

supernav, have you ever even been in a fight before?

And what's with all the black/white bullshit?

Both of these guys would have been eaten alive if they'd been fighting someone who knew how to fight.

Both of these guys can't strike or grapple for shit.

If you ask me, the taller guy could have hurt him much worse if he wanted or had the skill to do it, but NO ONE who has 30 seconds of one of my beatings would get up like that. Why? Read below.

THOUGH I BASICALLY STATED THE EXACT THING EARLIER, I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU. SUPERNAV REALLY DOES SPIT NONSENSE SOMETIMES.



KAYNE
 
KAYNE said:


YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NVR BEEN IN AN ARM BAR OR SOME TYPE OF SUBMISSION FROM A GUARD. GRANTED IN FIGHTS LIKE THIS IT IS BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. I MEAN SHIT, THE GUY COULDNT EVEN HOLD A FULL MOUNT FOR HIS LACK OF ESTABLISHING BASE. HOWEVER, IF TWO PEOPLE EVEN REMOTELY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING, ITS ALL GOOD!!!


KAYNE

Holding the mount is an artform in itself, and is by no stretch of the imagination an easy thing to do. Experienced BJJ players and submission wrestlers get rolled out of the mount all the time.

Personally I think the guard is overrated outside of BJJ or submission wrestling. If you introduce strikes, and with today's knowledge of submission defense spending too much time in the guard ends up getting you pounded. There are some exceptions. Mintauro has a incredible active guard, but he is the exception not the rule. See any one Tito has fought, or review Caol Uno v. Fabiana Iha
 
Nav, Looks like you enjoyed seeing the white kid getting beat up a bit too much. Do you have some sort of problem with whites? If so, tough shit. There's plenty of "whiteys" in that age group that could have ripped that black kids ass to shreds.
 
ZenMachine said:


Holding the mount is an artform in itself, and is by no stretch of the imagination an easy thing to do. Experienced BJJ players and submission wrestlers get rolled out of the mount all the time.

Personally I think the guard is overrated outside of BJJ or submission wrestling. If you introduce strikes, and with today's knowledge of submission defense spending too much time in the guard ends up getting you pounded. There are some exceptions. Mintauro has a incredible active guard, but he is the exception not the rule. See any one Tito has fought, or review Caol Uno v. Fabiana Iha

Yep,the mount is actually taking a gamble against an experienced fighter...The only time I will mount a guy in a street fight is if I know he's tired or I can get a high mount(knees in arm pits)or a mount with him on his side or facing the ground.Otherwise,the knee on stomach is a better top control position with less gamble of being rolled out.
 
I'm more about taking someone down and pounding or choking, rather than laying on my back after getting taken down. An accurate shooter with speed can double leg a larger oponent and go for a rear choke, throw some elbows with leverage, or strike with the legs from a standing position while the oponent tries to get back up.
 
ZenMachine said:


Holding the mount is an artform in itself, and is by no stretch of the imagination an easy thing to do. Experienced BJJ players and submission wrestlers get rolled out of the mount all the time.

Personally I think the guard is overrated outside of BJJ or submission wrestling. If you introduce strikes, and with today's knowledge of submission defense spending too much time in the guard ends up getting you pounded. There are some exceptions. Mintauro has a incredible active guard, but he is the exception not the rule. See any one Tito has fought, or review Caol Uno v. Fabiana Iha


DONT GET ME WRONG, I WOULD MUCH RATHER BE IN SOMEONE ELSES GUARD AS OPPOSED TO HAVING SOMEONE IN MY GUARD.

8 OUT OF EVERY 10 TIMES SOMEONE MOUNTS, THE FIGHT IS USUALLY OVER QUICKLY AFTER THAT. YES, PEOPLE GET ROLLED OUT OF MOUNTS BUT ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IF YOU ARENT DOING EVERYTHING PERFECTLY. HOWEVER, WHEN YOU GET MOUNTED, YOU ARE USUALLY TAPPING OUT WITHIN SECONDS. ESPECIALLY IF YOU CANT ESCAPE THE MOUNT OR DEFEND WELL.




KAYNE
 
Classic fight between two people who cant fight for shit.

If he talks shit- punch him in the head
If he is on the ground - punch him in the head
If you have him in the mount - punch him in the head
If he turns his back - punch him in the head
If he is covering his head with both hands and spreading his legs - punch him in the head
If he is wearing a motorycle helmet - punch him in the head

you get the idea. That video fighting mad and bumfights has tons of fights just like that where one headbutt could have ended the fight instantly but neither person knew what the fuck they are doing. Its always swing wide and for his face.

If you beat someone's ass for over a minute straight, they should not be able to even move, let alone stand up. The fight isnt over until someone is sleeping:)

Watch the Gracie in Action tapes. They are from the past 30 years where people have challenged the Gracies to fights at the dojo or on the street. Then you see the difference between a trained fighter and dipshits like that.

A trained fighter has a goal and a mission. Those clowns were just swinging wildly with no plan whatsoever.
 
on second thought

that kid is lucky the black guy didnt know what the fuck he was doing and was human enough to stop when he did and not hurt the kid. I saw a fight on New Years Eve where a guy got hit once, picked up and slammed and EMTs carried him away. There was so much blood you could ring it out of his shirt and the had to close the entire club down when the cops came in.

Some drunk fuck was talking shit to the wrong guy and got slammed face first onto concrete steps. Ouch.:smash: The guys face look like it exploded when the dude hit him then they tied up and that was it. It took about 10 sec max and was like a movie with chicks screaming and shit with blood everywhere.

Even he was luck that the person he fought wasnt intent on hurting him. After the slam the guy jetted. There are some sick people will sit there and kick you in the face for 15 min.

Moral of the story - dont start fights, finish them:D
 
I watched this the other night then went to consumptionjunction looking for more clips, none of them are categorized though... If anyone has more post them here, not vallely though that shit is old.
 
Re: on second thought

Immortal Juicer said:
that kid is lucky the black guy didnt know what the fuck he was doing and was human enough to stop when he did and not hurt the kid.

He probably realize in what kind of legal shit this could have brought him.
 
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