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Stop Michael Moore? What slimeballs

Lao Tzu

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http://www.moveamericaforward.org/NewsMax/

STOP MICHAEL MOORE FROM PROFITTING
IN HIS ATTACKS ON AMERICA & OUR MILITARY

“Bash America” filmmaker Michael Moore is about to unleash an attack on the U.S. Military, the heroic men and women of the Armed Forces and our Commander-In-Chief via his film “Fahrenheit 9/11.”

Inexplicably, more than 1,000 theaters have indicated they will proudly broadcast what The Guardian calls an “anti-war/anti-Bush” film – beginning June 25th. And the number keeps growing each day. The goal of the film is abundantly clear: to undermine the war on terrorism.

Moore has said the following about the film:

“Half the movie is about Iraq – we were able to get film crews embedded with American troops without them knowing it was Michael Moore. They are totally f***ed.”

After it was pre-screened, one Blame American First viewer cried, “It made me wanna burn my passport.”

Apparently there are dollar signs in their eyes too.

Michael Moore and his anti-American film distributors are hoping to cash in to the tune of millions of dollars and also change U.S. politics. One British paper noted that “Moore hopes that it will bring down the U.S. government.”

So why are mainstream movie theaters involved in promoting a political advertisement that defames our military, insults our troops and attempts to undermine the public’s support for the War on Terror?

Why are movie theaters showing political propaganda that should be governed by Federal Elections Commission regulations on campaign finance?



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I wish these slimy fucks would move to some right wing country where there is no freedom to condemn the government. i would help pay for their one way tickets.

I also hate when people use the 'criticism of US policy and leadership decreases soldier morale and leads to soldier deaths' argument to stop freedom of speech. If that were true than condemning freedom of speech using false arguments justifies fascism and leads to movements like the Nazis and KKK since we are all making tenous arguments.
 
nordstrom said:
http://www.moveamericaforward.org/NewsMax/

I wish these slimy fucks would move to some right wing country where there is no freedom to condemn the government. i would help pay for their one way tickets.

I also hate when people use the 'criticism of US policy and leadership decreases soldier morale and leads to soldier deaths' argument to stop freedom of speech. If that were true than condemning freedom of speech using false arguments justifies fascism and leads to movements like the Nazis and KKK since we are all making tenous arguments.

Well said. k your way..
 
you gotta be fair. right after the movie -- show a movie from a filmmaker praises Bush and shows the "real" truth.

you can't have one without the other. otherwise it's just liberal bullshit propoganda. What's Micheal afraid of huh??
 
Nordy-Right,let's all stick together and keep this mess one-sided and keep singing Bush's swan song no matter what type of complete bullshit he feeds his people.Gee,I wonder who's behind this latest escapade?I'm not really a fan of Moore's at all(he comes off as a whiney-boy and irritates me at times)but if he's uncovering the truth on certain issues that that the corporate controlled media fails to report on,then all the power to him IMO.
 
Razorguns said:
you gotta be fair. right after the movie -- show a movie from a filmmaker praises Bush and shows the "real" truth.

you can't have one without the other. otherwise it's just liberal bullshit propoganda. What's Micheal afraid of huh??

i don't have a problem with both sides of the story. put out a pro bush story. put out an unbiased story, put out moores (the anti-bush) story. Feel free, i just don't like these people trying to stop free expression because it isn't in the best interest of their political party.
 
why don't people disclose moore's REAL intentions with these "films". Oh yeah MAKING MONEY off making unproven accusations and sensationalizations.

people are gullible and fall for anything wild and outrageous cuz they want to believe there's ALL THESE CONSPIRACIES around them are true. Like life is this one big hollywood story.
 
Razorguns said:
why don't people disclose moore's REAL intentions with these "films". Oh yeah MAKING MONEY off making unproven accusations and sensationalizations.

people are gullible and fall for anything wild and outrageous cuz they want to believe there's ALL THESE CONSPIRACIES around them are true. Like life is this one big hollywood story.

well feel free to point out his flaws. But they are trying to shut him down, which is different. if you silence a liar he will have more followers than if you just disprove everything he says.
 
nordstrom said:
i don't have a problem with both sides of the story. put out a pro bush story. put out an unbiased story, put out moores (the anti-bush) story. Feel free, i just don't like these people trying to stop free expression because it isn't in the best interest of their political party.

I think it is okay he can broadcast whatever message he likes


HOWEVER - if he is broadcasting broad-faced lies or "creatively editing" stuff in order to make it intentionally misleading (as it is rumored he is doing and has done in the past)... I think he should be held criminally or financially responsible (fyi I think all media should be held responsible for the integrity of the information they pass on as well)
 
Becoming said:
I think it is okay he can broadcast whatever message he likes

HOWEVER - if he is broadcasting broad-faced lies or "creatively editing" stuff in order to make it intentionally misleading (as it is rumored he is doing and has done in the past)... I think he should be held criminally or financially responsible (fyi I think all media should be held responsible for the integrity of the information they pass on as well)

Yeah he does do that. I remember a good article about his bowling for columbine article that showed his fancy editing skills.

I do not think this justifies shutting him down. Some kind of mandatory warning like 'you are watching a movie made by someone with an agenda' would be nice, but they should put that on all books and movies that are like that.
 
BTW is his goal really to bring truth and justice, or is it to make a buck?

if it was such an important message - why not distribute it for free or for donations?
 
agreed, i dont like moore and there are problems with his 'documentaries' which they are not, however its funny because people like Alex Jones (infowars.com / prisonplanet.com ) have been revealing this very shit for years. And they use documented fact, they will point something out then link it to a CNN/CBC/MSNBC/FOX, etc news article, or an actual government document. the truth is literally out there yet it is hidden under the preconditioned minions who are far more interested in reality tv and who's going to be booted off average joe than interested in the fact that these 'government officials' (biggest gangsters ever) are using their private companies to benefit from the wars they create and fund. the defense industry absolutly loves bush, the caryle group is tied WITH bush and BinLadin Industrial Construction, etc i could go on for hours.

keep the people STUPID. the one good thing this movie will do is bring some questinos into the mind of regular reality tv watching minions.


its quite simple, fuck shit up in another country and have our private companies, (carylye group, etc) 'reconstruct' it with taxpayer money. by the way these companies dont have to reveal their finances either.

infowars.com should be everybody's homepage
 
>But they are trying to shut him down, which is different

What gives HIM the right to reach the big screen, as opposed to any other ordinary american? Since when did HIS opinions all of a sudden matter more than everyone else?

So if i make a movie attacking Bush, i have the automatic right to be able to show it ANYWHERE i want, tv, movie, blockbuster and demand money. And if someone denies me, i can accuse them of "silencing" me?

Maybe people don't want to show it cuz it's a shitty ass movie? maybe the quality is crap. maybe it won't sell. maybe it's too b-movie level. who knows.
 
michael moore is a whiny jackass. but just because he chooses to bash bush doesn't make him a hater of america. since when is it wrong to bash a politician? it's called free speech and he has just as much right to it as whoever runs "www.moveamericabackward".
 
Come on you whiney conservative Bushwackers! You guys have Bill Oreilly, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Anne Coulter.....etc. all blabbing your neo-con hate mongering bullshit propoganda. Why shouldn't the other side have their voice too?
 
Fast Twitch Fiber said:
Come on you whiney conservative Bushwackers! You guys have Bill Oreilly, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Anne Coulter.....etc. all blabbing your neo-con hate mongering bullshit propoganda. Why shouldn't the other side have their voice too?

'cause none of them can make movies? They're clearly all actors. They can speak their support of Bush and completely do it with a straight face!
 
I don't think Michael Moore is in it for the money. He might even be insulted at the thought. Nope, he wants something else....

Imagine a really cultured zombie: "I say, old chap, you're not using your brain; could I have it?"
 
i'm all for michael moore publishing his tripe and positioning himself with democrats, because it will just turn off more and more americans and win them over to our side.

these people who want to ban his film are just as bad as those who want to ban books. just because i may not agree with something doesn't mean i want to see it 'banned'. that's non-sense.
 
nordstrom said:
i don't have a problem with both sides of the story. put out a pro bush story. put out an unbiased story, put out moores (the anti-bush) story. Feel free, i just don't like these people trying to stop free expression because it isn't in the best interest of their political party.


Hell I would just be happy to see some unbiased reporting once. Let the poeple decide what they think instead of feeding them propaganda in the writer's, or moreover the publisher's interest.
 
Razorguns said:
>But they are trying to shut him down, which is different

What gives HIM the right to reach the big screen, as opposed to any other ordinary american? Since when did HIS opinions all of a sudden matter more than everyone else?

Huh? Anyone has the right to the big screen. Moore's stuff gets shown because, on some level, to some people, it is entertaining. And more importantly, it sells tickets. And popcorn.
 
as far as i'm concerned, his movie is straight to video. No one is under any obligation to put it some big screen just cuz he created some "controversy".
 
LOL.

Too freaking funny.

Moore's criticism of US foreign policy is free speech. But any criticism of a hack like Moore is a vast right wing conspiracy. Incredible

Why si the left never content until they invent some mythical "boogeyman" that is seeking to keep them down. One poster actually wrote on another thread 'I'm surprised they're still alive after speaking out against Bush."

Is liberalism a political philosophy, or a mental disorder?
 
JerseyArt said:
LOL.

Too freaking funny.

Moore's criticism of US foreign policy is free speech. But any criticism of a hack like Moore is a vast right wing conspiracy. Incredible

Why si the left never content until they invent some mythical "boogeyman" that is seeking to keep them down. One poster actually wrote on another thread 'I'm surprised they're still alive after speaking out against Bush."

Is liberalism a political philosophy, or a mental disorder?

Liberalism is defined as "A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority. " The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
 
par·a·noi·a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-noi)
n.
(1)A psychotic disorder characterized by delusions of persecution with or without grandeur, often strenuously defended with apparent logic and reason.
(2)Extreme, irrational distrust of others.
(3) See liberalism
 
JerseyArt said:
par·a·noi·a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-noi)
n.
(1)A psychotic disorder characterized by delusions of persecution with or without grandeur, often strenuously defended with apparent logic and reason.
(2)Extreme, irrational distrust of others.
(3) See liberalism

LOL, Nice addition of #3 there. Does that come from ttlpkg's Conservative Guide to Liberals?
 
strongsmartsexy said:
Liberalism is defined as "A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority. " The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Sounds like a very antiquated definition.
It should be changed to this:
"A political theory founded on that idea that humans are incapable of making decisions and must defer to the government for all of their knowledge. Only the collective conscious of a government can dictate what is right for the whole. Those that are more successful financially must be punished and forced to relinquish more of their proceeds for those either too mentally challenged or too lazy to provide for themselves " The Eviscerator Dictionary® Dictionary of the English Language,
Copyright © 2004 by Pissed-off Prick Presses.
 
The_Eviscerator said:
Sounds like a very antiquated definition.
It should be changed to this:
"A political theory founded on that idea that humans are incapable of making decisions and must defer to the government for all of their knowledge. Only the collective conscious of a government can dictate what is right for the whole. Those that are more successful financially must be punished and forced to relinquish more of their proceeds for those either too mentally challenged or too lazy to provide for themselves " The Eviscerator Dictionary® Dictionary of the English Language,
Copyright © 2004 by Pissed-off Prick Presses.

Sheesh, another frustrated psuedo-conservative trying to redefine liberalism to suite his own distortion of reality. ;)
 
SSS,

:), oh, and the premise of this thread is fatally flawed.

ttlpkg? Is that a poster?
 
JerseyArt said:
SSS,

:), oh, and the premise of this thread is fatally flawed.

ttlpkg? Is that a poster?

He goes by longhorn85 now. He's a fanatical Conservative, although I believe he's actually an extreme left liberal plant to demonstrate how silly the extreme right is.
 
strongsmartsexy said:
Sheesh, another frustrated psuedo-conservative trying to redefine liberalism to suite his own distortion of reality. ;)

I call it like I see it... Liberalism may have been this (your definition) when it started, but this (my definition) is what it is now.

I mean a faggot was once a bundle of wood, now it is a man who has sex with men. Words can change a lot.
 
SSS,

Him I know. He's huge dude, I wouldn't mess with him. He could smash you up like a car crash.
 
The_Eviscerator said:
I call it like I see it... Liberalism may have been this (your definition) when it started, but this (my definition) is what it is now.

I mean a faggot was once a bundle of wood, now it is a man who has sex with men. Words can change a lot.

Yes, but until you get the real published dictionaries to support your position you're out of luck in altering the definition. Nice try though.
 
strongsmartsexy said:
Yes, but until you get the real published dictionaries to support your position you're out of luck in altering the definition. Nice try though.

That was a real dictionary... didn't you see the publishing info? :p
 
JerseyArt said:
SSS,

Him I know. He's huge dude, I wouldn't mess with him. He could smash you up like a car crash.

Yea, like at 238lbs I'm a little dude. He's not likely to smash me up anymore than a Hyundai is going to smash up my Escalade. ;)

Besides: I let BO-DEN handle the light work like ttlpkg. ;) :lmao:
 
SSS,

You're pic is deceptive. I would have guessed 23lbs tops. Also, I've seen you on tv, and your pretty short as well. I'd be careful if I were you
 
JerseyArt said:
SSS,

You're pic is deceptive. I would have guessed 23lbs tops. Also, I've seen you on tv, and your pretty short as well. I'd be careful if I were you

Don't be dissing on Under Dog or Velvett will be in here kicking your butt all over the place! She :heart: Under Dog!
 
SSS,

I like Underdog! Anyway, I'm not a fighter, Im an instigator (translation: I PMed Longhorn telling him you were talking junk about him)
 
I wish someone would just put a bullet in that fat fucks head, or send him over to the Middle East or some other Non White country and see how the people he wants to champion treat him
 
but to honour the soldiers who died in Iraq we have to send more soldiers to die in Iraq dont you understand :D

I agree. Moore aint all that but this definately falls under freedom of speech
 
Austin316 said:
I wish someone would just put a bullet in that fat fucks head, or send him over to the Middle East or some other Non White country and see how the people he wants to champion treat him
 
Robert Jan said:
but to honour the soldiers who died in Iraq we have to send more soldiers to die in Iraq dont you understand :D

I agree. Moore aint all that but this definately falls under freedom of speech

what do you, as a european, understand about freedom of speech? some writer in france just got charged and indicted with a hate crime for speaking their mind about islam. they made it illegal in canada, as well, to say anything desparaging about another race/sex/religion/creed/etc.

fortunately, america hasn't started arresting and charging people for 'thought crimes'...yet.
 
Who does he want to champion and how does it show?

I don't recall him ever praising Arabs for being some kind of superior being
 
p0ink said:
what do you, as a european, understand about freedom of speech? some writer in france just got charged and indicted with a hate crime for speaking their mind about islam. they made it illegal in canada, as well, to say anything desparaging about another race/sex/religion/creed/etc.

fortunately, america hasn't started arresting and charging people for 'thought crimes'...yet.

1. I "am" not Europe. I can step back and look at these things from a broader perspective.

2. You generalise one country because of one lawsuit, and then you generalise the whole continent this country is on. There is a LOT of sharp comment on ethnic minorities, religions etc in our media

3. While we're in a freedom of speech pissing match, my government cant track which books I read like yours can. We don't have the Broadcast Indecency Act of 2004 either.

AND we have hardcore porn on cable and dont bleep or blur anything on MTV
 
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He pretty much wants to champion every non white american male, cuz we are all stupid don't you remember? I would be lying if I said Id feel bad about his death
 
Can't wait to see the movie. I don't have any pent up grudges or hate towards anyone and want them dead. Some of you people are fuckin crazy. I don't get your logic. Loosen up, my god. I'll be very interested to see what he has to say and what points he brings up.
 
FORTUNE said:
agreed, i dont like moore and there are problems with his 'documentaries' which they are not, however its funny because people like Alex Jones (infowars.com / prisonplanet.com ) have been revealing this very shit for years. And they use documented fact, they will point something out then link it to a CNN/CBC/MSNBC/FOX, etc news article, or an actual government document. the truth is literally out there yet it is hidden under the preconditioned minions who are far more interested in reality tv and who's going to be booted off average joe than interested in the fact that these 'government officials' (biggest gangsters ever) are using their private companies to benefit from the wars they create and fund. the defense industry absolutly loves bush, the caryle group is tied WITH bush and BinLadin Industrial Construction, etc i could go on for hours.

keep the people STUPID. the one good thing this movie will do is bring some questinos into the mind of regular reality tv watching minions.


its quite simple, fuck shit up in another country and have our private companies, (carylye group, etc) 'reconstruct' it with taxpayer money. by the way these companies dont have to reveal their finances either.

infowars.com should be everybody's homepage

the only problem with you going on for hours with infowar information is that one would have to make huge assumptions and presume alot of guilt by association. its mostly propaganda bullshit.

the bin laden group pulled its investments from the carlyle group right after 9-11.
 
p0ink said:
what do you, as a european, understand about freedom of speech? some writer in france just got charged and indicted with a hate crime for speaking their mind about islam. they made it illegal in canada, as well, to say anything desparaging about another race/sex/religion/creed/etc.


Just because someone doesn't live in a place that allows freedom of speech doesn't mean they don't understand the idea. It's not a very hard concept to understand.
 
I just wonder where you get this information that we do not get freedom of speech.
I don't live in France either.

They have Le Penn as a big politician for Christ's sake he's an admitted White Supremist
 
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