Stomach

[jagerbombme]

Just wondering if anyone has any input on this. I was on second cycle last year and was getting serious gas everytime i ate. Serious indigestion and serious gas. Well this got so bad one night I ate a bunch and had a protein shake and fell asleep on the couch laying down. I woke up with gurgling in my chest and freaked the fuck out and heart was racing like crazy and went to er, sparked a bunch of tests, stress test, holter test, echocardiogram, bloodwork. Everything fine. Now during this time i was OFF the shit and not eating the way I was either cause I thought it was due to low carb diet and thought it was my heart.

Well, now I'm back on the shit and the gas is back, I'm only on prop like 80mg eod. Everytime I eat I get sour aching stomach, gas pressure in chest, indigestion, and don't dare eat or drink and lay down because I'll get that fucking pulsing in my chest and when that happens half the time I can stay calm and heart rate doesn't increase, the other half the time the heart rate goes up to approx 150bpm. hehe, all until i burp.

now, some have said hiatal hernia could be the cause, some have said gall bladder. it does seem to happen more with fatty food. some said possibly i have become lactose intolerant and thats why it seems like my stomach's constantly bloated and the shit doesn't want to pass through. i shit like little tiny hard pellets lately.

I just seen the doctor and he said continue taking nexium which i've been taking for 1.5 months.

so the question really is

could the gear be causing this, or hitting abs really hard w/ a possible hiatal hernia, or maybe the slight increase in blood pressure upsets my stomach?

it's really aggravating cause i have anxiety and it makes it hard to try to sleep at night.

it's like i always have to burp but cant. sometimes it comes out and i feel great for a while.

all of this is managable except at night, during the day when i'm alert and not freaking out i'm okay, when i wake up a little dazed and feel it, i forget my sanity and sometimes lose control and end up pacing the floor for 15 minutes until my heart slows back down.

does test do this to anyone else??

 

[pitbullrocco]

i call bingo.

exactly how i've felt for a week now. a good burp will get me 30 minutes of happiness. then stomach fills up with air again. then its hell. i've eaten less than 1000 calories every day since last friday. lost 8 lbs so far.

wtf is going on? i'm wondering myself.....

 

[macrophage69alpha]

try taking probiotics. gear use, and associated dietary changes especially high protien diets, can change stomach enviroment in ways that are not good for your stomach flora. you will be amazed what eating yogurt with live cultures or taking a good mixed probiotics cap will do in this regard

 

[pitbullrocco]

i bought live yogurt today macro as you suggested in my thread.

already had one.

i need to find probiotics without having to wait 9 years for them to arrive in the mail.

 

[jagerbombme]

im wondering if it just isn't the ester im using, cause i used this labs cyp and enanthate with no problems, but the prop is 2 for 2 for giving me these stomach issues. im not eating over 200g of protein per day. i will check into these probiotics. i just started DGL and will continue nexium as doc says. it's just too freaky with chest pressure all the time being on gear cause it causes unnesscessary anxiety and stress. i wish it would go away so i could blast off with some fucking cycle doses, im only running 70-80mg eod of test prop. that's not shit. im gonna try some jelfa omnadren here in a minute. tell me if im wrong but isn't jelfa HG pharma grade? just gonna see what happens. if it continues. im thinking i might just cycle peptides from now on. i cannot live like this.

 

[Bruce]

i got gall stones. you will fell a sharp pain in your upper right abdomen. it will also burn if you drink or eat a lot of fat. milk will bother it as well. you'd of vomited though and been stopped up a few times. get checked for gall stones i wouldn't fuck around with it if it goes into emergency state they have to cut you open as opposed to just doing the scope surgery which is what i had and is a cinch

 

[macrophage69alpha]

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=32941

http://aem.asm.org/cgi/content/full/72/3/1729

 

[marshallmadman]

Prop makes a lot of peeps feel ill all around. No appetite, indigestion, and etc.

 

[jagerbombme]

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=32941

http://aem.asm.org/cgi/content/full/72/3/1729

does yogurt contain enough or should you purchase the shit straight up at nutrition store? i eat 2-4 yogurts per day

thanks

 

[matty420]

give this a try when you get that "need to burp but can't feeling" mix 2 tablespoons of baking soda (soda not powder!) into 4 ounces of warm water and drink it down. when it hits the acid in your stomach, it converts into CO2 and you'll burp up all of that excess gas. it sounds a little ridiculous, but i promise it works great!! take care bro - -Matt

 

[pitbullrocco]

give this a try when you get that "need to burp but can't feeling" mix 2 tablespoons of baking soda (soda not powder!) into 4 ounces of warm water and drink it down. when it hits the acid in your stomach, it converts into CO2 and you'll burp up all of that excess gas. it sounds a little ridiculous, but i promise it works great!! take care bro - -Matt

when you say "soda not powder!", what do you mean? a liquid form of baking soda? i only know of powder form of baking soda.....

?

 

[mwm5]

when you say "soda not powder!", what do you mean? a liquid form of baking soda? i only know of powder form of baking soda.....

?

two different things......

baking soda=orange box commonly put in fridge to get rid of smells.

baking powder=usually comes in a round container and is used in making baked goods rise while cooking.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

does yogurt contain enough or should you purchase the shit straight up at nutrition store? i eat 2-4 yogurts per day

thanks

well make sure it says live cultures on it. but actual pro-biotics blends (with 3-5 strains) are better.


you can buy them at any health food store (usually kept refridgerated).

 

[jagerbombme]

well make sure it says live cultures on it. but actual pro-biotics blends (with 3-5 strains) are better.


you can buy them at any health food store (usually kept refridgerated).

thanks, and thanks matt, ill give it a shot.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

be sure to update..

 

[pitbullrocco]

can you still eat yogurt a month expired?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

can you still eat yogurt a month expired?

not reccomended.

you can usually get yogurt cheap, its almost always on sale at the supermarket. just make sure to get one with live cultures.

 

[pitbullrocco]

i'm assuming if it says "cultured yogurt" that means it has live cultures....

 

[jagerbombme]

don't know about that, i know the dannon light and fit says it meets the usda req for stating it has live cultures or some shit. switched to enanthate, stopped prop last wednesday, shot 250mg of enanthate sat morning, stomach overall feeling much better, i overate a little tonight with chicken, stuffing, mash'd taters and gravy and got a little reflux, but im farting and burping at least and don't feel like im having a heart attack anymore

i usually eat two of the dannon light and fits 60 cal's a piece for a snack or you could say small meal during the day and even that would upset my stomach. the enanthate also is making me feel good, like i remember feeling my first cycle which was enanthate and cyp, i felt so good so much energy, no anxiety.

second cycle prop based was nothing but agony everytime i ate, drank alcohol, and full of anxiety. and that's how this one was going again. gonna switch to omnadren for a minute and then go back to the enanthate when it's gone unless i can get more omna's and see how i feel.

i dropped the npp in the first run cause i thought that's what was fucking me up. if i keep getting better now, i have like 5 bottles of npp, im gonna run it again, probably 1cc of omna and 1cc of npp every 3rd day. time to get a little bigger again.

i do already feel a ton fucking better though pitbull, i'd drop the fucking prop brother. the prop is good and at higher doses of 100mg ed, i was getting insane strength gains, but the higher the dose the worse i felt bro, not a way to live. omna or sust being they hardly cause bloating should be the equivalent of running prop or give similair results i would think, staying hard and lean and getting bigger and stronger. less water retention that is. good luck brother

i also started doing the nexiums at night, 2 hours after eating last, and then not eating at night so it can work, this mind process helps me from eating in middle of the night too which should help me in cutting fat

 

[pavlenko]

i buy the plain yogurt, it has the least sugar and carbs...plus its cheaper and healthier

 

[Mac173]

try taking probiotics. gear use, and associated dietary changes especially high protien diets, can change stomach enviroment in ways that are not good for your stomach flora. you will be amazed what eating yogurt with live cultures or taking a good mixed probiotics cap will do in this regard

Are probiotics mainly to help w/ gas or is there other things that they do? Some nights my gas is just rediculious. I always figured it was just the excess protein in my diet but farting every 10mins gets old especially in a room full of people.

 

[jagerbombme]

Are probiotics mainly to help w/ gas or is there other things that they do? Some nights my gas is just rediculious. I always figured it was just the excess protein in my diet but farting every 10mins gets old especially in a room full of people.

that's how i normally am, but on this prop i turn into a fucking air bubble i feel stretched beyond capacity.

 

[jagerbombme]

anyone else have issues with prop ever. stomachs feeling really good today

 

[aleksis]

Hey man ! How u feel now!
...I think i got the same problem . I was thinking am having a heart attack I did all tests and everything came very good Everything is negative So i just read your article and bingo i've got all the same smptoms hat u have!
That bother me a lot I am not working out for 3 mounths cause i thought exercise got me in that condition but obviously no. I still have this feeling and also i heve a pain right in my chest (left side between my ribs and something bothering my heart)
...Before that happened i was on Eq cycle and one mounth later i had this for fist time. I't felt like i have a heart attack.
So i dont know what to do Doctors saying iam healthy as a bull but i dont feel right since that shit happened. U know what i mean ? Gases are terrible

 

[jagerbombme]

tell doc you figured out it's your stomach and have them check you out. try nexium, dgl, and probiotics as mac mentioned. fucking right they are. also avoid HFCS, coffee, and really if you can caffiene in general. also as bruce mentioned, get your gall bladder checked. i don't feel it's my gall bladder as symptoms subside when i stop the test prop. you could possibly be having a similair reaction to EQ as i was prop. EQ is very long acting if its the undec i think. EQ raises rbc too, was all your blood in spec. mvc, rbc and such?