Still hungy

[witkowsd]

I have 6 meals a day -
4:30 - Oatmeal
7:30 MRP
10:30 1 chicken breast
12:00 1 chicken breast/veg.


but by 2:00 I am still hungry - I have a pre-workout drink after the gym
(around 4:30)
6:30 chicken/or steak w/veg.
8:30 cottage cheese

Thats 6 meals a day - any suggestions on the morning stuff

 

[witkowsd]

Still hungry

Pre - workout drink should be post workout drink. Sorry.

 

[bishonen]

Are you bulking, cutting, or just plain-ole' dieting? What are your vital stats?

Come on, work with us here!

 

[witkowsd]

Statisics

Definetely not dieting - trying to gain size and mass - my carbs are coming from my creatine drink and Recovery X - I was eating a bit more carbs but cut them down because of the high carbs in recovery x - my creatine has 30 g of sugar and 30 g of carbs.

 

[plornive]

Add a sweet potato or oats to meal 2, 3 and 5 --- you need more low GI starches throughout the day. Eat red meat (Bison burgers are awesome if you are loaded with ca$h) once per day instead of poutry. Eat eggs in the morning with your oats, including one yolk. Make a carbohydrate and protein drink to drink pre and during workout (maltodextrin and whey + creatine if ya want). Make sure your post-workout drink has high GI non-fructose carbs in it. Saute one of your serving of veggies in olive oil to have with your meat. Continue to eat the cottage cheese at night.

Multiply your weight in lbs by 18-20 and that is the number of calories you should eat per day. Try using my suggestions above to design a diet to give you more intensity in the gym. When you're bulking, your muscles should feel like they are going to split your skin from glycogen and blood.

 

[witkowsd]

Thanxs - I just did my calorie intake - way to low for my body weight. I will definetely redesign my meals and let you know how I make out - thanxs again for the advise.

 

[witkowsd]

I don't want to sound stupid but what is Maltodextrin?

 

[Sal]

No flame intended but this thread makes absolutely no sense at all. If your trying to add mass why in GODS NAME would you let yourself get hungry and then complain about being hunger.

Up your protein, your carbs, and cals. I mean damn...i thought you were on pre-contest diet or something with such low carbs.

Maltodextrin in a type of carbohydrate. You can buy it in powder form at www.proteinfactory.com to add to your shakes.

Sal

 

[drveejay11]

You need to find something that will satiate you... eating a lot and many meals is all fine and dandy but if you are not getting full what is the point???

 

[FitnessFrk]

I have 6 meals a day -
4:30 - Oatmeal
7:30 MRP
10:30 1 chicken breast
12:00 1 chicken breast/veg.


but by 2:00 I am still hungry - I have a pre-workout drink after the gym
(around 4:30)
6:30 chicken/or steak w/veg.
8:30 cottage cheese

that is a absolutely terrible diet for bulking ! on a clean bulk you need TONS of low GI complex carbs, where are yours ? 1 bowl of oatmeal isn't going to cut it. where is the fat intake ? EFA's ?

typical bulking macros range from 30/50/20 to 40/45/15 and some even go 30/60/10 - protein/carbs/fats.

 

[witkowsd]

I usually drink the post - workout drink "Recovery X" - can I add Maltodextrin to that or would you recommend another post workout drink.

 

[FitnessFrk]

that drink is great for post workout, but that is not the problem. you need to eat some complex carbs with those meals or the body will use the protein for energy vs for muscle building. you should be eating at least 50 grams of complex carbs like oats, beans, lentils, whole wheat pasta, whole wheat breads etc with each meal..you essential fatty acid intake is low also. you need to eat some natural peanut butter, or some flax seed , hemp or olive oils.

 

[witkowsd]

I take Flax seed oil 3 x a day, and I do have a couple of tablespoons of natural peanut butter - I just start using the MRP "GROW" which I will take 2x a day. Recovery X has maltodextrin in it - would you suggest adding more? Plus I have been shying away from brown rice, beans = I have added brown rice to my chicken - twice a day -

 

[scout420]

Dude, if your looking for mass dont let your self get hungry eat brother eat.

 

[plornive]

I usually drink the post - workout drink "Recovery X" - can I add Maltodextrin to that or would you recommend another post workout drink.

Try this:

Pre and during workout:
Eat a low GI carb and a slow protein source about 60 min before training. I like eating 1/2 a sweet potato and tofu or yogurt, but I am not bulking either. You could use oats and a chicken breast. Then about 15 minutes before training, start drinking this: 20g whey protein isolate + 24g maltodextrin + some of your creatine. Drink this through the first half of your workout.

Post workout:
Immediately drink this: 30g maltodextrin + 30g dextrose (or just 60g of either one) + 30g whey protein isolate + some more of your creatine (or just have it all pre-workout, it probably doesn't matter).

Then have a high protein meal (with carbs) about 60-90 minutes later. You may want to adjust the quantities to correlate with the rest of your diet and your current bodyweight.

You can buy 10 lbs of maltodextrin from NOW nutrition for $15-$20. Don't buy it from proteinfactory. Look around at your local nutrition store (NOT GNC, they won't have this). You can also order this on the web (NOW Nutrition brand "carbo powder" in 10 lb size). NOW also makes dextrose. I like Isopure whey isolate $30 for 3 lbs and it mixes well.

1/4 cup of the NOW maltodextrin is 24g.

 

[witkowsd]

I'm going to start this on Monday. Thanxs for the great advise.

 

[witkowsd]

Could someone give me the web site for Now Nutrition.

 

[witkowsd]

Revised my meals for the day -
Oatmeal w/egg white, whole egg, protein powder

MRP

Chicken/broccoli/Sweet Potatoe

(1hr before workout) Chicken/broccoli/Sweet Potatoe

During w/o: Protein powder, maltodextrin, creatine

After w/o: Recovery X w/Maltodextrin

1 hr after w/o - chicken or steak or fish (whatever I have) w/vegatables

Cottage cheese w/blueberries

I also take flaxseed oil, and ZMA-PM, plus natural pb inbetween

How would you say this checks out? Do I need to add or decrease anything?

 

[plornive]

Meals look ok as long as it is enough calories.

This place has NOW maltodextrin, but you can probably find it cheaper if you look around: http://www.dpsnutrition.com/Templates/frmTemplateV.asp?SubFolderID=128&SearchYN=N

 

[witkowsd]

Would it be more beneficial to substitute oatmeal w/whey protein powder for the MRP? and should I add anything else to it - right now my 1st oatmeal has egg whites and egg yokes in it (1 of each).