Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below i'm 7 wks. untill the indiana, i'm leaning out but i'm just flat as hell, my carbs stay between 60 to 70gms. a day, the only fat i take in is a tablespoon of peanut butter and 5 0z. of lean beef. calories are between 2,200 and 2,500, and i'm on 25mcg. of t3 a day , with 50mgs. of tren eod, with 300mgs. of deca a week, what can i do , to not be as flat and look more vascular. i'm just not happy being flat all the time, but being lean i like, but i need info on how to not be flat while on diet. thanks all info appreciated
still flat as hell, and skin is stretchy
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KILLER2001
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Yea, I hated t3 for exactly that reson. Maybe up the carbs a little and use some R-ala. Dont worry though, when I dropped the t3 I filled right back out. Maybe some proviron for hardness. Im not sure about any of these, just tryin to give some ideas.
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DepressiveJuice
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why arent you eating any fat? is it a bad idea to eat fat if you are getting ready for a show? what about post cycle sugars?
Are you getting a pump in the gym? If you are not then your carbs are to low. It's ok not to get a pump for a few days as the body adjusts but it should come back.
I do great with a contest diet that is predominately high protein,
carbs are:
Morning - One bowl of oatmeal, 6 egg whites.
Mid Morning - Protein Drink
Lunch - 1/2 lb of lean ground beef with 8 oz. lowfat cottage cheese
Afternoon - one apple, can of Tuna
Dinner - Salad - three chicken breasts
Eve- bowl of oat bran flakes with 4 whole eggs.
I work out in the morning, before my first meal, which is the most efficient way to burn calories.
30 minutes of cardio at night.
This routine ripped me up.
I do great with a contest diet that is predominately high protein,
carbs are:
Morning - One bowl of oatmeal, 6 egg whites.
Mid Morning - Protein Drink
Lunch - 1/2 lb of lean ground beef with 8 oz. lowfat cottage cheese
Afternoon - one apple, can of Tuna
Dinner - Salad - three chicken breasts
Eve- bowl of oat bran flakes with 4 whole eggs.
I work out in the morning, before my first meal, which is the most efficient way to burn calories.
30 minutes of cardio at night.
This routine ripped me up.
dont know if this is gonna help but here goes..
deplete mon-wed:-6 meals 3-31/2 pounds meat(chicken, fish)
-e eggs first and last meal
-consume meat in every meal
-only consume 1-2 servings of fiber carbs day
carb-up thur-sun:-6 meals 11/2-2 pounds meat(chicken, fish)
-3-4 servings of patatoes(5-6 oz)
-2 bananas
-1 pound 0f veggies
Did this diet for my first show and it did miracles.....went from 232@19% all the way down to 197@5%.by monday or tuesday your complexe carbs should have you filled up and pumpin.
good luck
deplete mon-wed:-6 meals 3-31/2 pounds meat(chicken, fish)
-e eggs first and last meal
-consume meat in every meal
-only consume 1-2 servings of fiber carbs day
carb-up thur-sun:-6 meals 11/2-2 pounds meat(chicken, fish)
-3-4 servings of patatoes(5-6 oz)
-2 bananas
-1 pound 0f veggies
Did this diet for my first show and it did miracles.....went from 232@19% all the way down to 197@5%.by monday or tuesday your complexe carbs should have you filled up and pumpin.
good luck
Why are you wooried about looking flat while on t3 7 weeks out?
Cut any dairy in the next week or two, including whey protein. Everybodys body will react differently to carb depletion and loading. Start switching out some of you carbs for a few days to get a good read on how your body reacts. Once you identify carbs which will not flatten you out stick to them for the remainder on the cycle. For example..oatmeal causes many people to look flat, but sweet potatoes are fine...experiment NOW!!!! not 2 weeks before the competition or in the carb loading period.
Cut any dairy in the next week or two, including whey protein. Everybodys body will react differently to carb depletion and loading. Start switching out some of you carbs for a few days to get a good read on how your body reacts. Once you identify carbs which will not flatten you out stick to them for the remainder on the cycle. For example..oatmeal causes many people to look flat, but sweet potatoes are fine...experiment NOW!!!! not 2 weeks before the competition or in the carb loading period.
You really do need to experiment with your carbs to find out what is right for you. I have been doing this for many years and have learned that I need the fats in the diet but I can maintain low carbs throughout. You need to get a feel for your body.
There used to be a product that was sold by John Parillo called CapTri, which is pure tryclycerides, the fats that give you energy.
I used this once and got really good results.
There used to be a product that was sold by John Parillo called CapTri, which is pure tryclycerides, the fats that give you energy.
I used this once and got really good results.
thanks for the info
yea i'm going to start expermenting, see what i've been doing is not having any carbs past 6p.m. so i'm gonna experiment with it now and see which ones will not make me as flat and work for me. yea i have been getting pumps in the gym, but its a hit or miss thing on the pumps. i usually get a good pump the next day after a cheat meal. but my cheat meals are over this week. so i'll experiment with my carbs and fats now, and see what works for me.
yea i'm going to start expermenting, see what i've been doing is not having any carbs past 6p.m. so i'm gonna experiment with it now and see which ones will not make me as flat and work for me. yea i have been getting pumps in the gym, but its a hit or miss thing on the pumps. i usually get a good pump the next day after a cheat meal. but my cheat meals are over this week. so i'll experiment with my carbs and fats now, and see what works for me.
One piece of advice that I would give is too have your bodyfat tested twice per week. This will really tell the story of whether your losing fat or burning muscle.
An example of why this is important, I was training for a contest, has my carb intake really low was hovering around seven percent BF. Dieted even harder the next week and went up to 8%. I mainly lost LBM. Increased my carbs for a week, started feeling better and dropped to 6%. I was able to maintain that level of carbs and lose BF while hanging on to LBM. Ended up competing at 5% and won my class. If I had not caught that error I would have been less impressive on contest day.
An example of why this is important, I was training for a contest, has my carb intake really low was hovering around seven percent BF. Dieted even harder the next week and went up to 8%. I mainly lost LBM. Increased my carbs for a week, started feeling better and dropped to 6%. I was able to maintain that level of carbs and lose BF while hanging on to LBM. Ended up competing at 5% and won my class. If I had not caught that error I would have been less impressive on contest day.
bigp3
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you need a little more fat if your carbs are that low,,, you probably are not even in ketosis with the fats being as low as they are so what your body does in response to this is to start burning muscle for fuel. Maybe try a carb up day once or twice a week. I just read a thing by jay cutler on his precontest dieting. What he does is 3 days of 100 g of carbs and 1 day of 300g of carbs, 3 days low 1 day high. Maybe try something similer to that. Just my 2 cents though and I agree that you need to check your BF 2 times a week.
thanks for the info
i think i'm gonna try the 3 low and 1 high, that sounds pretty reaosonable. but see i weigh 202lbs. right now, and i'm only taking in around 60 to 70grms.of carbs a day, so on the high day should i up to 120 to 150grms.of carbs or what, that the only question i got on that.
i think i'm gonna try the 3 low and 1 high, that sounds pretty reaosonable. but see i weigh 202lbs. right now, and i'm only taking in around 60 to 70grms.of carbs a day, so on the high day should i up to 120 to 150grms.of carbs or what, that the only question i got on that.
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