I just cant get into the Test is Best thing...I've known guys who used test and gained 15-25 pounds in 10-12 weeks...but i've also seen 15 lb gains on primo and anavar with 1% the hassle of nolvadex, clomid, HCG, etc...not to mention Acne, Gyno, etc..so in my opinion...test is great..no doubt..but best?