Steroids for ATHLETES

[The Base]

sorry, I meant 200mg but 4ml!! But what do you reckon?

 

[serge]

suspension any1?

 

[nautica]

Bump for more knowledge.

Nautica

 

[fhg43]

Hey fonz
This isn't true. Maybe the NCAA has to give you one day notice, but american IOC officials will show up at a practice with a RV testing lab and a bucket full of gatorade and just grab a bunch of athletes and test them. It happens all the time. Trust me when I say that these guys also work weekends. Some athletes (higher profile ones) can actually have IOC officials come to there house. If for some reason your not arround, or you weren't at the practice where they tested other athletes, that send a red flag, and you can be sure that you'll be tested more than the average athlete in the comming months. Each countries IOC officials are different with the US being the worst by far. European athletes have it much easier. Bastards...

Currently if you are a elite level competitor in an IOC/USOC sport in the US you COULD be subject to random tests by your National Governing Body. This doesn't really happen in the NBA, NHL, MLB (basically any franchised pro sports league except NFL they aren't an IOC sport). I have heard the stories about fellow cyclists, runners, triathletes hanging out at home on a Thursday afternoon and knock-knock "Hello-Mr X, I am Bob Drugtester from the USOC and this is Jim NGBRep from USA Cycling. We're here to conduct a random out of competiton drug test. Please pee in these two cups. Oh yes, we need to watch-from the front. Drop'em and pee for us, boy!"

As stringent as the USOC is there is still lots of rumors floating around about how they make prominent cases go away and every once in awhile they have a scapegoat. The euro countries are very pissy about US athletes never ever testing positive in big events. I have heard a few guys remark that the US has the best drug companies so obviously our athletes will have the best drugs. That big fat shotputter who was Marian Jones hubby is a good example. Actually I take that back- he tested positive in Oslo so he was tested by IAAF officials and then they turn over results to the US Track and Field. The US sat on the results and I think the IAAF had to annouce the findings. This is what really led to other countries crying foul about US drug case handling. The other countries tried to say that the US was going to let it slide so the IAAF decided they would step in and sanction him.

FHG

 

[fhg43]

Oh yeah the tests are far from random. Guys who have shady reputations and are getting results=lots of random testing. I have a friend who was tested 8 times in one season. Six times were random (all immediately after competition-in cycling they usually test the top 3 of big races and 1 or 2 random riders-More than one guy has been suspended for leaving a race and not checking to see if he was a random sampler-and ignorance=positive test in the eyes of our NGB).

Here's a good example: that Spanish/German XC skiier. He was TOO good in the XC races so they started testing him RANDOMLY (how random is 3 times in one Olympics!?!?) Bang they finally returned a positive test for Aranesp or darbotein alfa, a derivative of EPO. It is completely unnatural and synthetic so the detected it. Spain isn't appealling the decision either-they knew.

FHG

 

[fhg43]

Oh yeah-check out this thread on the pro/college sports board:

http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?threadid=75380

A group of us endurance minded athletes have been exchanging performance enhancing tips. There's some good info in this thread.

FHG

 

[rolfaldag]

woooooaaaaa

USA Cycling coming to dude's homes? O SHIT! what has the world come to? USA cycling is the laziest, most worthless bunch of idiots, or so I thought, when it came to drug testing. Friend of mine was selected for random drug testing once @ jr. nats while he had been popping amphetamines and who knows what else and he never heard a thing(and he didn't do the tube-up-the-bum either).... What tiered riders are they going after? Just Pro's? I haven't heard of anyone that I know, Cat. 1's and one pro, ever getting tested outside of competition.

O, and one other thing, "random" is not like the lottery. They look for the dude who looks all juiced up and pull his name from the hat. As was Mr.WIlly's case in Cincinatti @ espior nats when he was, and always has been, clean as a whistle. He always looks pumped....

The off-season should be fair-game.... That's my stance.


Ciao,

Rolf

 

[solidspine]

I love posts like this, very informative, based upon your own experience, I haven't tried some of this gear and appreicate your input, I also didn't know Ben Johnson was busted for whinny always thought it was dbol.

 

[monkeyballs]

I'm determined to keep this thread going...
Lots of great info, mostly due to Fonz, Manchild, and Nautica. Thanks bros.
One last try to keep this shit going...

 

[manolo]

nobody answer to me about if there are any laboratory that can do drug testing. I have been in holiday in s. jose ca ten years ago
and i got test for winny in that time I believe I took about 30 mg. a day and incredible i vas clear after 4 days. Now this lab move it I don't know where and all the time I competed I dit stop to take 1 w b4 and always got not problems for antidoping. Now I don't compete anymore and I know tha the tecnologyes for the lab is better, it more accurate. but still I can not believe that occurs 3 w for an oral aa to be clear. Now I am coach and for this reason I am interesting in this problem. by