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Strong_Man20

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Hi,

my docter told me that one of the most serious risks for someone using anabolic steroids is that you may develop diabetes. She told me that the juice will lower your calcium levels or some bull like that. Anyway do u think there is a significant chance that this may happen?? and is there anyone on this board that have been diagnosed with diabetes as a result of AS use

thank you
 
i found out that pill form steroids can cause glucose intolerances and in turn if im guessing over weight and eating high glycemic foods can cause hypo or even diabetes...im diabetic...i was using anavar when i found out but i was also eating anything and i weighed over 400 pounds so i dont really think the anavar placed a huge part in it. more my life style and weight. but also injected steroids(test,deca,etc.) have shown to improve insulin resistence..so thats just one more reason in chooseing injectable over oral...
 
Hmm, I was under the impression calcium was used in the contraction within the mucle cell itself. Many studies have been done showing calcium deficiencies in athletes who do not suppliment. Keeping that in mind, AAS use may speed up the depletion of calcium, I guess I never had of calcium deficiency resulting in diabetes.....after all, for the women going through menopause etc, its always osteoperosis. I would think that if a calcium deficiency was a major cause of diabeties they would be using that info more readily.
 
Calcium has nothing to do with diabetes as far as i'm aware of.
i thought it was due to an insensitivity to insulin (type 2).
 
MaxBiceps said:
Calcium has nothing to do with diabetes as far as i'm aware of.
i thought it was due to an insensitivity to insulin (type 2).
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Im not sure about the calcium part, but she seemed pretty worried that my calcium levels were low and thats why she told me to take another blood test. Im just worried about there being any truth to what she said!!
 
AAS do cause insulin insensitivity and can cause those who are somewhat pre-disposed to develop adult onset diabetes. If you are smart and do your research you will probably not have a problem unless there is a predisposition. Exceptions to this are those who are on advanced or extreme cycles- especially those stacking in HGH -and whose calorie intake etc. further stresses their own production and usage of insulin. Top pro BB's not only take insulin to be "anabolic" but need extraneous insulin to take up the slack for what is too hard for their own body to keep up with. Your pancreas is designed to meet requirements for insulin within certain parameters and when you are jacked on a hardcore regimen of AAS, HGH etc. you need to help it out.
 
You very well could be calcium deficient, but prolly would be without the gear too. Athletes use more calium due to muscle contraction and sweat. Simply get a good calcium(or multi mineral) suppliment, preferably colloidal. and then have your blood work done again.
 
She is likely confusing steroids with HGH. The low calcium levels in steroid using bodybuilders really don't exist when blood test are taken. It was thought that a high protien diet along with increased protien turnover would leach calcium from the body. I seen a few recent articles based on studies that tend to disprove this.
 
HGH is much more likely to cause adult onset diabetes, however, AAS can aswell
 
hey anabolic D, im newlly diabetic and gonna start of winny , but i dont know if i should shot in my delt or drink it. cause of the liver and diabetes. u know what im talking about. injecting would be best right? or would taking milk thristle help in the liver and 17ak.. stuff?
 
big calvin...actually, winny is 17aa in both forms as far as i know so it really doesn't make much difference if you inject or take tabs. If you're concerned with scar tissue as I am then tabs are the way to go...i've got enough needle damage as it is :) In terms of your liver, I would say that a shorter cycle, like 4 weeks, shouldn't be a problem but you should have blood work done before you cycle - and after is you really want to cover your bases. Take Milk thistle and alpha lipoic acid after you cycle to cleean out your liver and take cranberry extract while on the cycle to help out your kidneys- an anti-oxidant stack would be helpful too.
 
thanks anabolic diabetic,
well i was gonna drink the winny V. 50mg ed for 8 weeks. thats not to long right? im onlu doing 15IU at night of NPH so im on alot of insulin....ill get all the liver gaurds before i start. thanks bro.
 
Bif Calvin, your PM didn't come through, and as for the length of time...pay attention to your body Bro....LOW CARBS....cardio, you'll do fine...:)

Ranger
 
proper intake will help prevent that strongman, remember your body will be needing nutrients to help get bigger, so be sure you put into yourself what your body requires
 
Calvin...I would stick to four weeks and I'm almost positive that you will have to go on Humilin R while on gear. If you're only on "N" right now, that means your pancreas is producing a good amount of insulin but either you're not producing optimal levels or you're insulin insensitive...gear will make you're insulin requirements SKYROCKET. I take at least twice the amount of insulin while on gear and while every diabetic is different, I'm telling you now that you will have to be very careful about this...Do not do an 8 week cycle, just my opinion. Have you done gear before? How long have you been diabetic and on insulin?
 
I don't believe its the HGH that causes it, but the insulin that is junctioned w/ it. wish one of the pros can set this straight...(bump)
 
2nd cycle....first was anavar but only lasted 3 weeks cause thats when i found out i was diabetic so i stoped everything......well when i found out it has been like 4+months but i just now went to the doc on monday so i have only been really on insulin sence monday...cause my dad also diabetic i use his R sometimes if my sugar is in the 4-500s so i use 5 IU R and 15 iu N. and that brings it down about 100 points or so....i havent been under 200 in a while....im trying to get there though :)
...hmmm...4 weeks....if i did 4 weeks/4 weeks off....i could go on again in 4 weeks?even if not ill still do the 4 week, shit my suagr is high anuff, better be on the safe side and go short.....thanks again bro.
 
AD is right and it's one of the main reasons you cycle slin with HGH...

AD...you're on da ball Bro...Thanks for helping out with the fellow diabetics....:)

Ranger
 
Thanks Ranger...I appreciate that. Calvin, I will reply more in depth to your e-mail but you should not cycle ANYTHING until you get your blood sugars on track...PLEASE LISTEN TO ME. I'm going to email you my phone # etc. and if you'de like to talk you can call me. You aren't getting good advice about your insulin requiremnts etc. if your going up and down like you say you are. Its not your fault, and it happens to ALL diabetics but I would like to help if I can. Later bro
 
wow! thanks AD.

i also think my doc doesnt know much about "optimum" insulin use. i wanted to do 6 small dosages before my meals of R and maybe N so i would have tight control on my sugar. but he just said to try this.....

AD "u got mail" :D
 
alpha lipoic acid will help with drop in insulin sensitivity.- but dosing can be tricky as I am SURE A.D. knows.

progestins like Deca, Anadrol will great affect blood sugar-

It is not clear whether winstrol has such effects- RANGER?
 
Any of you diabetics ever try the fast acting Humalog insulin pen? I am a diabetic of almost 4 years now and that is the best weapon in the arsonal if you ask me. Dial up the dosage and shoot it right before eating. Still need to take the long acting NPH before bed though. And by the way, I took some juice and accutaine before I got diabetes, always made me suspicous but i had never heard of any connections, until now....
 
I do use humalog but take it via the old school needle method. I like humalog but it can be a bit dangerous if you OD since it kicks your but so fast :p
 
I'm with AD on this one, as I use Hum. as well...

MP, I've used winny several times, never once a bad side effect other than headaches, and when I hit dbol, or AD-50's(which is rare)....Liquidex, and/or Nolva is always added to curb the high water retention, and other estrogenic sides...gotta be nice to the old kidneys...

I've watched my Mother for 2 years now go through Diaylsis 3 times per week, and have to stay on a strict Renal diet, not to mention the EPO injections...etc. That shit ain't for me....Hence my love for EQ, Anavar...etc.

Big Calvin, Listen to AD, sugar levels must be under control, and constantly monitored, diet and exercise is a must....NEVER, and I repeat, NEVER rush into this game without knowing your body, and all the signs it gives you...

Just the other day(June 28th) I was taken to the ER because my sugar had dropped to 23mg/dl...it was probally lower(slightly)....but a few tubes of Gluclose got me rocking again....Hypoglycemia is not fun, and I always get a VERY bad headache once I come back around....

Be careful, seek good advice, listen to your body, diet, exercise, and you'll do well for a long, long, time:)

Ranger
 
don't wait untill after you cycle to clean the liver

i think it is best to protect your liver from day one.
So liver values will not get the change to get out of hand.
 
thanks ranger and AD again :D

im trying to stick to the diet but its hard, as u guys know, i guess i so use to eating pizza and BK and i just have to change my habits....

my dad wanted me to use the pen but i just siad F that ill just use the old school method :D

AD:
im also using now humalog(my dads) and N ...the doc said to do 15 N at night but im on now 5-8IU HUMA, 15IU N both at night and morning...its going good, my sugars not at 500 so that a +..but its still around 300 cause some times i eat bad stuff :( im cokeaholic :(

but im trying , im tryin...ohh and im guessing this happens to u guys, i inject in my stomach(R/L), quads(R/L) and trciep(R/L) but im my stomach im seeing little blue brozes where i inject? that normal right? my dad said i must have injected to quick....
 
Yeah, I've read a couple JAMA articles on this - Just take Metformin & ALA - this is what I do!
 
Big Calvin...occasional bruising is normal. I did abs the other day and took my slin in my stomach like a dumbass and got a intramuscular injection by accident :p oh well, it happens. You might also want to look into taking Humilin Ultralente insulin. I don't know if Ranger has any experience with it but I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. It is a 24 hour insulin with very little peak to it...takes you off the rollercoaster sugar levels.
I had a similiar experience with dbol as Ranger. I only used it for 14 days, had great strength increase, but it kicked my ass the entire time. And RANGER, your Mom must be strong to be handling the dialysis etc. I wish her well...I'm not sure I could handle that route.
 
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