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Steroids, Acne, and Accutane!!!!

FreakMonster

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How many of you guys have dealt with your acne from Steroids? I finished my last cycle about 4 months ago and I'm still breaking out pretty bad all over my body and face. So I decided to go to the dermatologist and he prescribed me Accutane. First off this shit is EXPENSIVE. Even with my insurance it ended up costing me $160 for a 30 day supply.

Just took my first pill today but kinda skeptical about the side effects. I read somewhere that once you have taken Accutane the way your DNA is transcripted and replicated is modified, it is just like you are genetically modified. That’s why you don’t have acne anymore but bottom line, that’s why some experience terrible and devastating side effects.

Any truth to this?
 
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As far as I understood, no this DNA sounds like BS. It shrinks overactive sebaceous glands. If you take aas they will probably grow bigger again.

Might be wrong but thatswhat I understand.

I'm about to go on 70mg a day...holy shit...think i'll start on 40.

Keen to hear your experiences. I still want to tcyel with it...500mg t enan per week 1- weeks. STraight and simple.
 
BTW can't believe how expensive this is for you. My med aid paying everything. I'm taking generic version, it costs $100 per month for 70mg per day. I thought it would be worse actually.
 
LMFAO it changes your DNA??!?!?! HAHA! Thats the most rediculous thing I've ever heard, no offense to you bro! All accutane does is completely shut down the subacious gland production. This means the oil glands in your face and body are no longer producing oil, or atleast a very small fraction of what they were producing. Thats the reason your skin gets soooooo dry and flakey. You can't go out into the sun for long periods of time because you will burn easier due to the fact that your skin has basicly no elasticity and is already extremely dry.

Relax bro, i just came off of 80mg/ed for 10 months and I'm feeling great. If I had the chance I'd do it over in a heart beat. Nothing works better. Nothing.

Chris
 
shessh...so 10 months at 80 mg was fine for you?

I'm gonna do 70mg...if sides get too much can I lower it? Why did u do 10 months? Thats whacked...
 
freakmonster can you post a pic of how bad your acne was....because i wanna take accutane and i dont know if mine is bad enuff...my dermatologist will prolly just prescribe some shitty ass cream
 
Yep I did great for those 10 months too.

Yes, you can lower the dosage, but I wouldn't start at 70mg/ed. Start at 40mg/ed and if you need more add accordingly. I went 10 months because thats what i needed. I will need to run another cycle of the accutane though. I have hereditary nodular acne and the only thing that helps is accutane.

Chris
 
PICUTRES PEOPLE please i have a dermatologist appt today at 3 and i wanna know if he will prescribe me accutane or not...i really wanna get rid of this shit....the fucking xreams dont do dick for me
 
For face acne, the best thing that worked for me was a facial wash with Salicylic Acid. Works great to wash away extra oil and bacteria that causes breakouts. Also, any acne medication with Benzoyl Peroxide to treat breakouts on the spot. This may not work for everyone but it did for me. I use the facial wash year round anyway.
 
Zircon said:
BTW can't believe how expensive this is for you. My med aid paying everything. I'm taking generic version, it costs $100 per month for 70mg per day. I thought it would be worse actually.
What generic name are you taking? I'm taking Claravis.
 
Zircon said:
As far as I understood, no this DNA sounds like BS. It shrinks overactive sebaceous glands. If you take aas they will probably grow bigger again.

Might be wrong but thatswhat I understand.

I'm about to go on 70mg a day...holy shit...think i'll start on 40.

Keen to hear your experiences. I still want to tcyel with it...500mg t enan per week 1- weeks. STraight and simple.
Dude, your nuts if your gonna cycle while taking Accutane. Accutane alone is VERY taxing on the liver, especially at 70mg. I would get monthly bloodtests if I were you.
 
newbiebynature said:
freakmonster can you post a pic of how bad your acne was....because i wanna take accutane and i dont know if mine is bad enuff...my dermatologist will prolly just prescribe some shitty ass cream
If your an adult and you have acne on your shoulders and back then he will most likely prescribe you Accutane since Tetracyclyne will not be able to combat huge nodules that are on your back. I don't have much acne on my face maybe 3 or 4 zits here or there. I can try to take a pic of my back.
 
newbiebynature said:
freakmonster did the dermo just prescribe it to you or did he want you to have blood work first done...SOME1 FUCKING ANSWER ME
He did bloodwork and then prescribed me the Accutane. I have to get blood work every month for 5 months which I am fine with.
 
khemix said:
LMFAO it changes your DNA??!?!?! HAHA! Thats the most rediculous thing I've ever heard, no offense to you bro! All accutane does is completely shut down the subacious gland production. This means the oil glands in your face and body are no longer producing oil, or atleast a very small fraction of what they were producing. Thats the reason your skin gets soooooo dry and flakey. You can't go out into the sun for long periods of time because you will burn easier due to the fact that your skin has basicly no elasticity and is already extremely dry.

Relax bro, i just came off of 80mg/ed for 10 months and I'm feeling great. If I had the chance I'd do it over in a heart beat. Nothing works better. Nothing.

Chris
I got it from this site, Don't know how legit that info is.
http://www.xsorbit1.com/users/davec//index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1059215949

In the Roche pamphlet it is stated that the EXACT mechanism of isotretinoin is unknown. This information isn’t all wrong, but the truth is that the mechanism of isotretinoin is pretty well known. It just hasn’t been proven 100 % by lab essays.

Well here are the hypothesis on how Roaccutane gets rids of acne. I’ll try to keep such a complex thing as simple as I can for everyone to understand.


Roaccutane (isotretinoin) is a synthetic retinoic acid. The body uses retinoic acids to regulate gene expression. Gene expression means the way that cells are created (simplified a lot). Cells to be created needs transcription and replication of DNA. To put it simple, it’s like making a cake. You need the ingredient list to be able to make the cake. The body needs DNA to be able to make the cells. Retinoic acids comes in this process by regulating the gene expression. It means that retinoic acid is a part of the creation of the cells. Retinoic acids binds to specific receptors in the body and play his role in the transcription and replication of DNA.


Here are some gene where retinoic acid play an important role (transcription and replication) :

Gene

Oxyticine......................................reproduction
Growth hormone...........................Growth
Phosphoenol puryvate...................Gluconeogenese (metabolism of sugar)
Alcohol dehydrogenase..................alcoholic oxidation
Transglutaminase..........................Growth and death of the cells
Laminine B1..................................Cellular interaction
GLA matrix protein.........................Growth and synthesis of the bones
Keratin..........................................Skin
Retinol binding protein type I...........Vitamin A metabolism
RAR............................................... Vitaminic A action
HOX 1.6..........................................fœtus growth
Dopamine receptor D2.....................CNS (central nervous system).


Why roaccutane heal acne :


Because Roaccutane and retinoic acid play a key role in the skin keratin gene. Acne is a keratin problem. So to fix acne you need to change the way DNA replicates for the keratin process to be brought to normal in patient with acne (having keratin problems). Roaccutane is the best known retinoic acid when it comes to keratin problems. So where is the problem with Accutane. Well the problem with Accutane is that unfortunaltely it doesn’t act only on the Keratin gene. It also act (to a lesser extent on all the genes That I named previously). Here comes the side effects.


We’ve seen that Accutane acts on the keratin gene. It changes the way it replicates. That’s why the people get dryer skin and no more acne, they also get peeling of the lips, hands, bleeding of the noose, dry scalp, dry skin, eye irritation. But these symptoms aren’t that harsh. And even if some stay long term it definitely isn’t a problem for acne sufferers. Accutane leaves in the cells receptors small traces of retinoic acids for very long term. That’s the reason Accutane is considered a permanent cure to acne. Very small amount of it (we’re talking about micrograms) are left on cells receptors for long term. that’s why even after cessation of the treatment the acne is still gone.


The other side effects.

Bone pain : this one comes from the change in the replication and transcription of the GLA matrix protein gene. Accutane affect this gene.

Low blood sugar : this one comes from the change in the replication and transcription of Phosphoenol pyruvate gene. Accutane affect this gene.

Teratogenicity (means messes with the foetus growth). This one comes from the change in the replication and transcription of the HOX 1,6 gene. Accutane affect this gene.

Insomnia, depression suicidal thoughts, muscle twitching….. This one comes from the change in the replication and transcription of the Dopamine receptor D2 gene. Accutane affects this gene.


Weight loss (unable to gain weight back), weight gain. This one comes from the change in the replication and transcription of the Growth hormone gene. Accutane affect this gene


And so on.

Now why do Accutane causes terrible side effects to some and not so terrible side effects to the most. There are mainly two reasons :


- Accutane is isotretinoin : a synthetic retinoic acid that is supposed to only affect the keratin gene. It does affect all the other genes but to a lesser extent.

- Once Accutane is introduced in the body, damage is starting to be done to the body. Cells dies at a greater rate or grow at an anarchic rate. Most of the people can repair the damage so the rate at which cells are repaired is greater than the rate at which cells are damaged. Remember that each day millions of cells are created and millions of cells are dying. It is the aging process. Accutane in some person illicit a greater damage rate and the body with time is no longer able to repair the damage at the same rate it is done. That’s why some people have reported side effects from Accutane years after they stopped the drug.



This is how roaccutane works for getting rid of acne and also how it illicit in some person terrible side effects. Once you have taken Accutane the way your DNA is Transcripted and replicated is modified, it is just like you are genetically modified. That’s why you don’t have acne anymore but bottom line, that’s why some experience terrible and devastating side effects.

Now that you know the whole truth about the drug, it is your choice to take it or not.


When I took the drug, I was unfortunately only 21 and I was more preoccupied on how I could get that girl sitting next to me in class going out with me. Like all 21 years old guys I wasn’t preoccupied by Retinoic acids and gene transcription (and to be hones those biology courses I was taking were boring). I would have wanted someone to warn me and tell me how Accutane really works. I wouldn’t be in such trouble now because knowing the whole truth about the tane, I would have never ever took it.

PS : for those that think that derms know everything about Accutane and that they wouldn’t prescribe it if it was a hazardous substance. Wake up, derms aren’t biologists or chemist. They aren’t some smart brains. The only ability they have is a learning one. They are unable to use logic and mathematic to understand how roaccutane works, go ask them by wich chemical route Accutane is made, they will not answer because they know nothing about the drug. It took me Thousand of pages before starting to understand how the accutane works. Accutane causes side effects that no doctor has ever seen and they can’t cure them because they are not like the symptoms they know. Accutane side effects will mimic other disease but the doctors don’t know it so they can’t cure them. You are warned.


Please if your acne isn’t severe and if you don’t think about suicide stay away of this drug.
 
newbiebynature said:
and what if im just coming off a cycle...the blood work will be off wont it...FUCK

newbie my friend, calm yourself! It depends what you took during that cycle. If you took some sort of oral then you may have problems. Freakmonster, do you have any PERSONAL or FIRST HAND experience with cycling and accutane? I cycles Tren for 8 weeks @ 100mg/eod and test for 12 weeks @ 750mg/wk. Never ONCE did my lipids/liver values come back even slightly elevated. I can get the paperwork to prove it. This is how bad rumours get started. I heard this and this and he said that you can't do that because of this and thats why. Please don't speak up if you have no first hand experience fellas.

I'm not gonna post any before-accutane pics because, well just because. It's embarrasing to me. I've had acne problems since 5th grade and now its MUCH better. It varies doctor to doctor and person to person wether or not you'll get put on accutane. If you do you'll give blood, wait a few days for the results to come back, and if they're okay you will start the accutane probably the next week or sooner.

If you have thick lumps under your skin on your face (nodular acne, also known as cystic, correct me if im wrong guys) then you will definantly be put on it. Anyone ever gotten inside one of those??? Nastiest thing I've ever seen in my life. Shoots like a stream of milk from a nipple! If you just have 3 or 4 pimples on your face or a few on your neck and back you probably won't be put on the accutane, and you probably don't need it. However, if you've tried every OTC med and ever 'script oral and topical, then you're likely to be put on accutane. That was the case with me. I should have been on accutane before any of that other shit. Any more ?? let me know. I've also got a couple packs of Claravis left over.

Chris
 
hook a brother up man...bro im not just talking about 4 zits...you CAN NOT see the color of my skin on my back or shoulders...its all acne...PM me bro i need yo help
 
she prescribed me retin A gel form, TRIAZ (benzoyl peroxide 9%), and a pill called dynacin...and if they dont work in 6 weeks she said shes gonna gimme accutane...i think i might just not take this stuff so she can prescribe me accutane in 6 weeks...
 
khemix said:
newbie my friend, calm yourself! It depends what you took during that cycle. If you took some sort of oral then you may have problems. Freakmonster, do you have any PERSONAL or FIRST HAND experience with cycling and accutane? I cycles Tren for 8 weeks @ 100mg/eod and test for 12 weeks @ 750mg/wk. Never ONCE did my lipids/liver values come back even slightly elevated. I can get the paperwork to prove it. This is how bad rumours get started. I heard this and this and he said that you can't do that because of this and thats why. Please don't speak up if you have no first hand experience fellas.



Chris

I don't have any first hand experience with Accutane and Cycling. I've read several places that Accutane can tax your liver, even my doctor mentioned it. I guess that's why it says on the Accutane insert not to drink alchohol
 
FreakMonster said:
Even with my insurance it ended up costing me $160 for a 30 day supply.

Are you freaking kidding me???

Damn bro I always knew you guys got ass raped on meds down in the US, but shit that is flat out ludicrous what you're paying. Up here in Canada the cost of accutane alone with NO insurance is around $120 (that's for a 30 day supply of 40mg tabs). With my insurance I only pay about $12. That's crazy.
 
FreakMonster said:
I don't have any first hand experience with Accutane and Cycling. I've read several places that Accutane can tax your liver, even my doctor mentioned it. I guess that's why it says on the Accutane insert not to drink alchohol

It's cool, you're just going by heresay, like most of the other people on here. Well since Accutane is 17aa, of course it is going to affect the liver in some way. Although throughout my entire cycle of accutane none of my values were elevated, even while running the notoriously 'toxic' tren. I honestly believe the side effects of accutane are hyped up wayyyyyy too much. If taken improperly and you have certain conditions or predispositions sure, I'm sure you can have some real bad side effects. But for the average common joe, everything is fine like 95% of the time. ;)

Chris
 
khemix said:
It's cool, you're just going by heresay, like most of the other people on here. Well since Accutane is 17aa, of course it is going to affect the liver in some way. Although throughout my entire cycle of accutane none of my values were elevated, even while running the notoriously 'toxic' tren. I honestly believe the side effects of accutane are hyped up wayyyyyy too much. If taken improperly and you have certain conditions or predispositions sure, I'm sure you can have some real bad side effects. But for the average common joe, everything is fine like 95% of the time. ;)

Chris
wait...so u took accutane while on gear? and read above...is what the doctor prescribed me good..he said that if i dont see improvements in 6 weeks he gonna put me on accutane...u think i should not take the meds and just wait for the accutane?
 
Well actually I took gear while on accutane. I had been on the accutane for about 3 months, and was on cycle for 3 more months, then had 4 months more of accutane. Retin-A is pretty good stuff, depending on the person. I didn't do much for me, but for a lot of people it works wonders. The triaz I know nothing about, but damn 9% benzoyl alchohol is alot, so im sure that will help as well. I dont know anything about the dynacin though. If you can, I'd try using the what your derm gave you and see how it works, it can't do anything but help.

Also I paid $15 a month for my accutane script.
 
khemix said:
It's cool, you're just going by heresay, like most of the other people on here. Well since Accutane is 17aa, of course it is going to affect the liver in some way. Although throughout my entire cycle of accutane none of my values were elevated, even while running the notoriously 'toxic' tren. I honestly believe the side effects of accutane are hyped up wayyyyyy too much. If taken improperly and you have certain conditions or predispositions sure, I'm sure you can have some real bad side effects. But for the average common joe, everything is fine like 95% of the time. ;)

Chris
So you think if I have a couple beers during the weekend I should be fine.
My doctor took my blood a couple days ago and said my liver value were a bit elevated. I wonder why they are elevated. I haven't juiced in 4 months
 
Hi, I notice that you posted your comment a few years ago but couldn't help but reply to it. I took Accutane for one course of treatment when I was 13 years old so after reading your post I was sort of concerned. I have done some research on Accutane and found out that because of the drug's short half life, it is supposed to be out of a person's system within 3 months or so after the last pill is taken. So...am I wrong about this? Am I some kind of genetic freak ever since I took this drug 9 years ago (haha)? I am interested in hearing your response. Thanks.
 
Ive been taking 40mg of accutane my whole cyle. 10 weeks om omdaren and eq for 12 weeks. My liver values are slightly elevated. I have not had a zit at all. Not one, for the first time in my life at 35. My bones do hurt, it could be because of the weight im lifting. No other sides at all. i do not even have to wash my face or hair. i while tell you that my hair does not grow as fast. It is a cure period. Buy Accutane
 
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