steroid rumors

[lilj888]

Im almost 18 and i dont think im going to grow anymore, im only about 5'5. My question is do most steroids make you grow(besides gh), my friends say that they know people that have grown alot while on steroid when they were about 16 years old. I always thought it stops your growth enless its a steroid like anavar. I would like to grow as much as i can so this is why i ask

 

[danymal04]

Don't believe everything that you hear. Your right, var is the only one that doesn't cloths growth plates but I got by just what I read. (which isn't the best thing when your on a forum). But there are a lot of good guys on here so it all works out. Anyways. steroids do not make you grow .......... Milk makes me grow like a weed

 

[Jon79]

steroids will only hurt your natural "height" growth....especially that you are only 18...

some people have late growth spurts you may grow another inch or so....your growth plates are active unil you are 25....so there it still hope

stay away from the sauce bro it will only hurt your growth

 

[wellbilt]

no offense my man
your to young to be hitting the sauce
at 18 you should be a ball of hormones
concentrate on perfecting your diet and training then worry about juice
you can still get results bro ,i was 26 when i first hit the sauce
i was traing for 6 years before i tried anything
just my 2 cnets bro

 

[skullcrushin22]

Im almost 18 and i dont think im going to grow anymore, im only about 5'5. My question is do most steroids make you grow(besides gh), my friends say that they know people that have grown alot while on steroid when they were about 16 years old. I always thought it stops your growth enless its a steroid like anavar. I would like to grow as much as i can so this is why i ask

If you are talking about growing taller than your out of luck. Steroids will not make you taller. And as far as your freinds talking about kids that were 16 and taking steroids, if anything they stopped growing. I would advise you to do a little more research, and I am sure If you tried hard enough you can get bigger. Eating is the biggest thing and having a good lifting routine.

 

[danymal04]

but would you have done it if you had been informed of a site like this at a earlier age???? say 20-21

 

[lilj888]

im not to worried about getting bigger i do see some results i just was thinking bout a little boost in gains maybe like a cycle but now that ive read it will shut my growth plates off ill be waiting till my growth plates shut off naturally, enless i can find some anavar were i live which i doubt because i have been in search of anavar for awhile.

 

[solidspine]

lilj888,


cool your jets, your 18 and 5'5"

Just lift, train eat natural,

Do your first cycle when 26 or 30,

I am 5'5", and did my first cycle at age 47, guess what still 5'5"

Turn 57 next month, hope to be a lean 200 lbs.

Most of that was diet, training and oh well I guess


an enormous amount of gear in the last 10 years.

 

[Recruit]

Hey, be happy with being 5'5" ...it doesn't take long to pack muscle on a frame like that. I have to work like hell to get any gains on my 6'1" frame...

 

[chordz]

lilj888,


cool your jets, your 18 and 5'5"

Just lift, train eat natural,

Do your first cycle when 26 or 30,

I am 5'5", and did my first cycle at age 47, guess what still 5'5"

Turn 57 next month, hope to be a lean 200 lbs.

Most of that was diet, training and oh well I guess


an enormous amount of gear in the last 10 years.

Nice to see, how are you feeling anyway? Do you use large doses? You are probly better off than most guys your age.

 

[solidspine]

I never use to use large doses, have run long cycles, real basic gear, typical better cycle was

Test E
Primo
Winny
Tren/Fina
Growth

Probably totaled 24 weeks, and I know before I started the winny or fina,

I did about 3-4 weeks on Russian d-bol, probably around 20-25 mg every day.

Anti-E’s and serious PCT

I loved Russian d-bol and Primo, opposites but I love both of them,

 

[mlong23]

no offense my man
your to young to be hitting the sauce
at 18 you should be a ball of hormones
concentrate on perfecting your diet and training then worry about juice
you can still get results bro ,i was 26 when i first hit the sauce
i was traing for 6 years before i tried anything
just my 2 cnets bro

Did you even read the guy's post. He is looking to get taller. He didn't even mention that he wanted to get bigger (muscularly).

 

[pursuit]

Hey dude,

It is actually estrogen that stops people growing in their late teens. People that have a genetic defect that cause them not have any estrogen (ie aromatase defiecency), actually grow to be very very tall and growth plates usually close in the late 20s or never.

So I would suggest trying an aromatase inhibitor (AIFM, Arimidex, letroloze).

This may help you to grow a bit more. You will not grow anymore if you're growth plates have closed. Similarly, it wouldn't have much effect if they are about to close - as you are 18 this probably the case.

 

[wellbilt]

Did you even read the guy's post. He is looking to get taller. He didn't even mention that he wanted to get bigger (muscularly).

yes tru
but it does sound like he wants to use some gear and he is concerned about stunting his growth
and he is only 18

 

[drrman]

steroids will do the opposite bro, they will close your growth plates if they aren't already closed and you will possible not grow as tall as you possible could.....you have been misinformed

 

[AhMadKooL]

steroids will do the opposite bro, they will close your growth plates if they aren't already closed and you will possible not grow as tall as you possible could.....you have been misinformed

Tru that... There are lots of articles about the use of steroids by teenagers causing stunted growth. Just google: "steroids stunted growth" and you'll be able to review them

 

[badslinky]

GH can make you grow taller if your growth plates have not fused. Youll need to get an xray to find this out. If there is still room to grow GH is ur answer. I would make sure you get doctor advice berfore you attempt anything.

 

[RamRom]

Eat Eat Eat, Train Train Train

 

[mlong23]

yes tru
but it does sound like he wants to use some gear and he is concerned about stunting his growth
and he is only 18

Well I never said he was smart. Obviously he is an idiot to think that steroids would help him to get taller and like you said the guy is only 18. I didn't start until I was 21, and could have probably waited another year or so especially learned more.

 

[badslinky]

not an idiot, cause he took the time to come online here and hopefully research. He'll probably end up taking it but atleast he's asking. Most 18 yr olds will do whatever there gym buddy hands em' and not even think twice.

 

[mlong23]

not an idiot, cause he took the time to come online here and hopefully research. He'll probably end up taking it but atleast he's asking. Most 18 yr olds will do whatever there gym buddy hands em' and not even think twice.

Oh you are mistaken. He can still be an idiot and do research. Look at your 2nd sentence, my point exactly. Its great to do some research which he didn't do before just coming on here and asking a question. Just because you ask a question on a forum does not qualify doing research in my opinion. That's like me going to the gym and asking them what they think about steroids and which cycles to run. Will probably get some good and bad answers, just as here, so that doesn't qualify for research.

 

[timtim]

Hey, be happy with being 5'5" ...it doesn't take long to pack muscle on a frame like that.

this is an inaccurate statement. its easier for us shorter people to look bigger by putting on less weight. but taller people will easily be heavier when they add the weight. im 5'5" and 185. even with gear im not jumping 20 pounds. now someone 6 foot would be able to put on much more weight than 185. its all relative. it was no easier for me to reach this point than a taller person hitting 220 or 230. its all hard work.

 

[Ulter]

Except for heavyweight shorter men usually win NPC bbing shows.
Hey Kid, yes you can use Anavar because it won't make the estrogen that closes your growth plates. Problem is that you will be using a weak, expensive, steroid for a long time because when you stop your gains will disapear. So you have to stay on it. At your age it's a stupid idea. Really.

 

[lilj888]

thanks for the advice the guy who said to take a aromatase inhibitor seems like a good idea if what really causes not to much growth is estrogen and i think ill look in that for some height growth if my plates are not closed

 

[automaticj5]

Hey, be happy with being 5'5" ...it doesn't take long to pack muscle on a frame like that. I have to work like hell to get any gains on my 6'1" frame...

Amen to that! gd...............

 

[duke of earl]

thanks for the advice the guy who said to take a aromatase inhibitor seems like a good idea if what really causes not to much growth is estrogen and i think ill look in that for some height growth if my plates are not closed

i think you'd be better off just making sure you are giving yourself the best possible chance to grow... ie proper nutriotion - if you watch your diet you can at least maximise your growth
as for what Ulter said I have to agree as the two options for vertical growth (ie GH & Var) are also two of the most expensive compounds ( not to mention sides etc ) - an AI might help, but you would be messing with a very delicate feedback mechanism - make sure you do plenty of research before you order anything, let alone take anything.

 

[dbay]

I think it is safe to say many on the board started lifting around the age of 18 yrs old. Personally, I did and I wasn't much more then a twig. I grew fast and genetics skipped my generation. But hard work did pay off. Your body is in the growth mode. I feel growth is only enhanced with exercise and proper nutrition.
Get to the gym and add some natural muscle. I bet that you will grow more before your body stops doing it's job. (FYI) I graduated high school 2.5 inches shorter then when I graduated college.
My Advice No drugs! If it is important to you then no Rec drugs or Steroids till your body has matured. Like others have said. Google "Growth Studies" and you will see the percentages. Many bodies mature in the late teens and early twenties. Good Luck and post up some pics before and after. You will get all the encouragement you need from fellow board members. Best to you...

 

[Butterbob]

I would still give it some time. I wouldn't consider doing anything until you are at least in your late 20's or even early 30's. If it makes you feel any better, I was only 5'7 when I was 18. I actually hit a late growth spurt and grew another 3" by the time I was 20.

 

[pursuit]

Hey dude,

It is actually estrogen that stops people growing in their late teens. People that have a genetic defect that cause them not have any estrogen (ie aromatase defiecency), actually grow to be very very tall and growth plates usually close in the late 20s or never.

So I would suggest trying an aromatase inhibitor (AIFM, Arimidex, letroloze).

This may help you to grow a bit more. You will not grow anymore if you're growth plates have closed. Similarly, it wouldn't have much effect if they are about to close - as you are 18 this probably the case.

Hi, just thought I'd back up my comments with this study...

ORIGINAL ARTICLE
Treatment with the aromatase inhibitor letrozole during adolescence increases near-final height in boys with constitutional delay of puberty
Matti Hero*, Sanna Wickman*and Leo Dunkel†

Summary

Objective We investigated whether inhibition of oestrogen biosynthesis with the aromatase inhibitor, letrozole, during adolescence improves near-final height in boys with constitutional delay of puberty.

Patients and methods Seventeen boys with constitutional delay of puberty were randomized to receive testosterone (T) enanthate (1 mg/kg i.m.) every 4 weeks for 6 months in combination with placebo (Pl, n = 8), or the aromatase inhibitor letrozole (Lz, 2·5 mg/day orally) (n = 9), for 12 months. After treatment, patients were followed up until near-final height. Height discrepancy was calculated as near-final height minus mid-parental target height.

Measurements The primary end point was the difference in near-final height between the groups treated either with T + Pl or T + Lz. Secondarily, height discrepancy and gain in height standard deviation score (SDS) were analysed in both groups.

Results Boys treated with T + Lz reached a higher mean near-final height than did boys on T + Pl (175·8 vs. 169·1 cm, respectively, P = 0·04). In T + Lz-treated boys, mean near-final height did not differ from their mid-parental target height (175·8 vs. 177·1 cm, P = 0·38), whereas in T + Pl-treated boys, mean near-final height was lower than mid-parental target height (169·1 vs. 173·9 cm, P = 0·007). T + Lz-treated boys had a greater increment in height SDS over the pretreatment height SDS than T + Pl-treated boys (+1·4 SDS vs.+0·8 SDS, P = 0·03).

Conclusions Our findings indicate that in adolescent boys an increase in adult height can be attained by use of aromatase inhibitors.

 

[KD1]

Hey dude,

It is actually estrogen that stops people growing in their late teens. People that have a genetic defect that cause them not have any estrogen (ie aromatase defiecency), actually grow to be very very tall and growth plates usually close in the late 20s or never.

So I would suggest trying an aromatase inhibitor (AIFM, Arimidex, letroloze).

This may help you to grow a bit more. You will not grow anymore if you're growth plates have closed. Similarly, it wouldn't have much effect if they are about to close - as you are 18 this probably the case.

Awsome idea - I dont know personally that the science behind it is 100% accurate but if it is, its a very good idea.

 

[JohnnyWest]

As someone else said it is estrogen that causes epiphyseal tissue to fuse, not the actual steroid. Using an aromatase inhibitor for an extended period of time should increase your final height over the long term, it isn't a quick solution but it should work. So that means steroids don't fuse growth plates unless they are allowed to convert into estrogen. Also, never use deca, tren or anadrol becuase their progestogenic activity will also close your plates.
But don't use any steroids, just use a low dose of an AI and you should keep growing, you don't want to mess with your endocrine system at your age.