steroid rumors

[mlong23]

not an idiot, cause he took the time to come online here and hopefully research. He'll probably end up taking it but atleast he's asking. Most 18 yr olds will do whatever there gym buddy hands em' and not even think twice.

Oh you are mistaken. He can still be an idiot and do research. Look at your 2nd sentence, my point exactly. Its great to do some research which he didn't do before just coming on here and asking a question. Just because you ask a question on a forum does not qualify doing research in my opinion. That's like me going to the gym and asking them what they think about steroids and which cycles to run. Will probably get some good and bad answers, just as here, so that doesn't qualify for research.

 

[timtim]

Hey, be happy with being 5'5" ...it doesn't take long to pack muscle on a frame like that.

this is an inaccurate statement. its easier for us shorter people to look bigger by putting on less weight. but taller people will easily be heavier when they add the weight. im 5'5" and 185. even with gear im not jumping 20 pounds. now someone 6 foot would be able to put on much more weight than 185. its all relative. it was no easier for me to reach this point than a taller person hitting 220 or 230. its all hard work.

 

[Ulter]

Except for heavyweight shorter men usually win NPC bbing shows.
Hey Kid, yes you can use Anavar because it won't make the estrogen that closes your growth plates. Problem is that you will be using a weak, expensive, steroid for a long time because when you stop your gains will disapear. So you have to stay on it. At your age it's a stupid idea. Really.

 

[lilj888]

thanks for the advice the guy who said to take a aromatase inhibitor seems like a good idea if what really causes not to much growth is estrogen and i think ill look in that for some height growth if my plates are not closed

 

[automaticj5]

Hey, be happy with being 5'5" ...it doesn't take long to pack muscle on a frame like that. I have to work like hell to get any gains on my 6'1" frame...

Amen to that! gd...............

 

[duke of earl]

thanks for the advice the guy who said to take a aromatase inhibitor seems like a good idea if what really causes not to much growth is estrogen and i think ill look in that for some height growth if my plates are not closed

i think you'd be better off just making sure you are giving yourself the best possible chance to grow... ie proper nutriotion - if you watch your diet you can at least maximise your growth
as for what Ulter said I have to agree as the two options for vertical growth (ie GH & Var) are also two of the most expensive compounds ( not to mention sides etc ) - an AI might help, but you would be messing with a very delicate feedback mechanism - make sure you do plenty of research before you order anything, let alone take anything.

 

[dbay]

I think it is safe to say many on the board started lifting around the age of 18 yrs old. Personally, I did and I wasn't much more then a twig. I grew fast and genetics skipped my generation. But hard work did pay off. Your body is in the growth mode. I feel growth is only enhanced with exercise and proper nutrition.
Get to the gym and add some natural muscle. I bet that you will grow more before your body stops doing it's job. (FYI) I graduated high school 2.5 inches shorter then when I graduated college.
My Advice No drugs! If it is important to you then no Rec drugs or Steroids till your body has matured. Like others have said. Google "Growth Studies" and you will see the percentages. Many bodies mature in the late teens and early twenties. Good Luck and post up some pics before and after. You will get all the encouragement you need from fellow board members. Best to you...

 

[Butterbob]

I would still give it some time. I wouldn't consider doing anything until you are at least in your late 20's or even early 30's. If it makes you feel any better, I was only 5'7 when I was 18. I actually hit a late growth spurt and grew another 3" by the time I was 20.

 

[pursuit]

Hey dude,

It is actually estrogen that stops people growing in their late teens. People that have a genetic defect that cause them not have any estrogen (ie aromatase defiecency), actually grow to be very very tall and growth plates usually close in the late 20s or never.

So I would suggest trying an aromatase inhibitor (AIFM, Arimidex, letroloze).

This may help you to grow a bit more. You will not grow anymore if you're growth plates have closed. Similarly, it wouldn't have much effect if they are about to close - as you are 18 this probably the case.

Hi, just thought I'd back up my comments with this study...

ORIGINAL ARTICLE
Treatment with the aromatase inhibitor letrozole during adolescence increases near-final height in boys with constitutional delay of puberty
Matti Hero*, Sanna Wickman*and Leo Dunkel†

Summary

Objective We investigated whether inhibition of oestrogen biosynthesis with the aromatase inhibitor, letrozole, during adolescence improves near-final height in boys with constitutional delay of puberty.

Patients and methods Seventeen boys with constitutional delay of puberty were randomized to receive testosterone (T) enanthate (1 mg/kg i.m.) every 4 weeks for 6 months in combination with placebo (Pl, n = 8), or the aromatase inhibitor letrozole (Lz, 2·5 mg/day orally) (n = 9), for 12 months. After treatment, patients were followed up until near-final height. Height discrepancy was calculated as near-final height minus mid-parental target height.

Measurements The primary end point was the difference in near-final height between the groups treated either with T + Pl or T + Lz. Secondarily, height discrepancy and gain in height standard deviation score (SDS) were analysed in both groups.

Results Boys treated with T + Lz reached a higher mean near-final height than did boys on T + Pl (175·8 vs. 169·1 cm, respectively, P = 0·04). In T + Lz-treated boys, mean near-final height did not differ from their mid-parental target height (175·8 vs. 177·1 cm, P = 0·38), whereas in T + Pl-treated boys, mean near-final height was lower than mid-parental target height (169·1 vs. 173·9 cm, P = 0·007). T + Lz-treated boys had a greater increment in height SDS over the pretreatment height SDS than T + Pl-treated boys (+1·4 SDS vs.+0·8 SDS, P = 0·03).

Conclusions Our findings indicate that in adolescent boys an increase in adult height can be attained by use of aromatase inhibitors.

 

[KD1]

Hey dude,

It is actually estrogen that stops people growing in their late teens. People that have a genetic defect that cause them not have any estrogen (ie aromatase defiecency), actually grow to be very very tall and growth plates usually close in the late 20s or never.

So I would suggest trying an aromatase inhibitor (AIFM, Arimidex, letroloze).

This may help you to grow a bit more. You will not grow anymore if you're growth plates have closed. Similarly, it wouldn't have much effect if they are about to close - as you are 18 this probably the case.

Awsome idea - I dont know personally that the science behind it is 100% accurate but if it is, its a very good idea.