the cabaser is stronger than winny for that. much stronger. from what i've read winny sometimes doesn't even work like that for people. however it could still help lean you up further if your ready for your joints to take a toll
that's 150% correct. tren can give gyno. ask sparetire on here. i think 2 shots of tren ace gave him irrepairable gyno. he tried for months with letro and cabaser and everything under the sun to try to get it to go away, he had to have surgery. cabaser cabaser cabaser! and only go human grade!