Starting to bloat mid cycle, WTF!

[anal itch]

OK,

Two weeks ago I dropped the Tren Ace from my cycle as it's run it's course and am still on 750mg EQ per week and 150mg Test Prop ED. I started Winny at 50mg ED along with Anvar at 60mg ED and Proviron at 50mg ED the same day I stopped the Tren.

I'm two weeks off the Tren / two weeks in on the Winny, Var and Proviron (depending how you want to look at it) and am noticing a bit of bloat around my mid-section. The scale has also registered around 7lbs higher. I was dry as a bone the entire time up until now.

Nothing has changed in my workouts/cardio or diet. I was taking 2.5mg of Letro ED the last few weeks of the Tren cycle to combat some gyno symptoms but am still taking that much now just to be safe. I was taking 1.25mg ED the entire time before.

What could be causing this water retention? Is it the lack of Tren or the addition of the Var and Proviron? I can't image Winny causing water retention.

 

[swordfish151]

Got me on this one bro...cant think of whats causing the increase in water...you water intake up to par?

 

[anal itch]

Got me on this one bro...cant think of whats causing the increase in water...you water intake up to par?

Still drinking 1.5 gals a day, just as before. I'm losing my abs and that's killing me mentally. I know it's not fat gain but I WANT MY ABS BACK! Damnit!

I'm still veiny in my arms and legs so I don't know why it's only in my mid-section where the water is being retained.

 

[chefbone]

Human grade or UG gear?

 

[anal itch]

Human grade or UG gear?

ummm... I guess you could call it UG. Let's say "home made"...

 

[anal itch]

hmm... are you thinking perhaps the Winny, var or primo powders aren't what they should be... I'm not significantly stronger now then two weeks ago if perhaps you're implying one of the powders is dbol... Then again I've never taken var or proviron before (or dbol for that matter) so I don't know how I respond to them

 

[MTS]

Human grade or UG gear?

my thoughts exactly

it maybe a long shot but either one of the powders is dbol or your test prop is contaminated with estradiol?

 

[anal itch]

my thoughts exactly

it maybe a long shot but either one of the powders is dbol or your test prop is contaminated with estradiol?

The prop is the same batch from the same powder lot that I've been using for the last 16 weeks. The Winny is the only thing that is suspect IF this is in fact a mis-identified power problem... I know the var is legit because I'm having all kinds of problems keeping it in solution and not crystallizing.

If it's not a powder problem what else could it be?

 

[Mr.X]

OK,

Two weeks ago I dropped the Tren Ace from my cycle as it's run it's course and am still on 750mg EQ per week and 150mg Test Prop ED. I started Winny at 50mg ED along with Anvar at 60mg ED and Proviron at 50mg ED the same day I stopped the Tren.

I'm two weeks off the Tren / two weeks in on the Winny, Var and Proviron (depending how you want to look at it) and am noticing a bit of bloat around my mid-section. The scale has also registered around 7lbs higher. I was dry as a bone the entire time up until now.

Nothing has changed in my workouts/cardio or diet. I was taking 2.5mg of Letro ED the last few weeks of the Tren cycle to combat some gyno symptoms but am still taking that much now just to be safe. I was taking 1.25mg ED the entire time before.

What could be causing this water retention? Is it the lack of Tren or the addition of the Var and Proviron? I can't image Winny causing water retention.

You can add some dostinex, light letro dose and natural diuretics - that should dry you right up

 

[maldorf]

I know that EQ doesnt cause a whole lot of water retention, but maybe its the EQ just starting to kick in since its only the 3rd week now. Perhaps the dostinex would work.

 

[anal itch]

You can add some dostinex, light letro dose and natural diuretics - that should dry you right up

Thanks X, but what do you think is causing it? The lack of Tren in my system? I’m still taking letro at 2.5mg ED.

 

[anal itch]

I know that EQ doesnt cause a whole lot of water retention, but maybe its the EQ just starting to kick in since its only the 3rd week now. Perhaps the dostinex would work.

it's the 16th week of EQ... I'm just starting the third week WITHOUT the tren

 

[Mr.X]

Thanks X, but what do you think is causing it? The lack of Tren in my system? I’m still taking letro at 2.5mg ED.

It could be just bad homebrew gear - can't say 100%. I would think it's prolactin related, but that's a bit of a guess. Try some natural diuretics and dostinex, that should fix your right up.

 

[Wulfgar]

I would definately guess prolactin as well from the rebound after using tren

cabergoline, bromocriptine would both work great and a good OTC diuretic should honestly be all you need to dry yourself up

 

[MTS]

The prop is the same batch from the same powder lot that I've been using for the last 16 weeks. The Winny is the only thing that is suspect IF this is in fact a mis-identified power problem... I know the var is legit because I'm having all kinds of problems keeping it in solution and not crystallizing.

If it's not a powder problem what else could it be?

wow i have no clue buddy, it could be a lot of things or maybe a combination of a few different things

but do what Mr. X says just incase

good luck bro

 

[anal itch]

I would definately guess prolactin as well from the rebound after using tren

cabergoline, bromocriptine would both work great and a good OTC diuretic should honestly be all you need to dry yourself up

Wow, I didn't read anything about a prolactin rebound when stopping Tren. This is a side that I wasn't aware of... Will winny help with the excess prolactin?

 

[Para_Shoot]

You can add some dostinex, light letro dose and natural diuretics - that should dry you right up

Can you please tell me what dosage and frequency of dostinex and letro you would use in this situation?

 

[anal itch]

^^

 

[Mr.X]

Can you please tell me what dosage and frequency of dostinex and letro you would use in this situation?

You haven't posted your cycle or info in this thread, can you post up your cycle and what you're running - because these things are bit variable from cycle to cycle.

 

[anal itch]

*** UPDATE***

well, I had to go out of town for a few days and forgot to pack my winny caps. Well after a few days without them the water weight started to drop. I did NOTHING different while away as far as diet and water intake so I'm guessing that the winny isn't winny at all. Dbol perhaps? I've never taken dbol (on purpose) so I don't know what to expect.

Needless to say I've stayed away from it and don't plan on using them at all considering I'm not sure what they are.