Starting SSAlexSS Overtraining (C) tomorrow!

[Advaik]

Ok, I am a firm believer in not knocking something until you try it. Therefor I made a little routine for tomorrow that I am calling "SSAlexSS Overtraining". It consists of what I read about ARMagadon and One Day Arm Cure, with a little change to fit my needs.

I'll be doing 250x6 bicep/tricep/forearm training at a tempo throughout the day and drinking more whey/glutamine/creatine/ala/flax mixes than I can probably handle. I am starting at 11am and ending at 9pm.

I'll keep you all updated on if I grow or not, and be sure to complain about how much it hurts. Don't be surprised if I don't post though, since I will probably be dead/in the hospital by the end of the day.

Btw - Yeah I know this is extremely stupid and is just overtraining, but it should be fun! If it works it works, if not I'll always have the memory of my extreme stupidity .

 

[Blood&Iron]

Probably not the smartest move, but my reasoning was along the same lines when I decided to do the One Day Arm Cure. Shit, it's only one day, and besides, I don't care how stupid it is, it's cool to be able to say you did something that over the top. Makes for a good story.

As to it being fun--yeah, it is, for the first 4 hours or so, then it starts sucking pretty incredibly. Trust me.

BTW, the One Day Arm Cure is *only* 64 sets. I can't imagine doing 250.

 

[Advaik]

Since my biceps are gonna hurt like hell anyways, I decided to also do triceps/forearms which make up for the additional reps.

30 BB Curls
30 Reverse BB Curls
30 Preacher Curls
30 Concentration Curls
30 Skullcrushers
30 Forearm Curls
30 Forearm Flexors
30 Wrist Rollers

So I am only doing 120 bicep sets. If I can't handle it I may cut off my last 2 sessions which would cut 10 sets off each, but I am making sure I do atleast 20 sets of each.

 

[b fold the truth]

What shall the intensity, reps, and weights look like?

You gonna spend all darn day in the gym?

Why only one tric exercise?

B True

 

[Advaik]

I havnt really decided on weight yet. I'll probably start low and build up to there until the point where I am doing failure sets and just decrease the weight from there and do forced reps to make sure I get the 6 reps each set. Nothing I read really gave details on how much weight you should use.

I have a weight system in my house that I plan to use. It's small, just a bunch of weights, a bench, and a few bars. But it'll do.

The reason for only one tri excersize is because I don't know anymore I could do with the weights I have. If I had a machine I could do something else. I may add something else, I'll see how it goes.

 

[Haz]

Keep us posted on the results. I'm really interested, and I'd probably give it a try if I had my own weight set at home.

 

[Blood&Iron]

I havnt really decided on weight yet. I'll probably start low and build up to there until the point where I am doing failure sets and just decrease the weight from there and do forced reps to make sure I get the 6 reps each set. Nothing I read really gave details on how much weight you should use.

My experience was that after a certain point, say hour 4 or 5, my strength pretty much evaporated. I was struggling using 5lb DBs for my exercises towards the end of the day. I sure it was freakin' hilarious to anyone who was watching me.

I have a weight system in my house that I plan to use. It's small, just a bunch of weights, a bench, and a few bars. But it'll do.

Sounds much better than what I did. I was at the gym for about 9 hours and ate my meals hunched up in my car in the parking lot.

 

[mattcanning99]

to SSAlexSS

a tip:

don't post threads with titles "i just did....is that good?..."

instead, you could do what Advaik is doing and state you will be doing the routine tomorrow...if you find people begin flaming you, you can lie and say "well, i didnt do it after everything you guys said"

OR

you could have posted a link to the routine and asked for feedback.

makes sense eh?

 

[Advaik]

After doing my first 2 routines of my planned schedule, I decided that it was taking too long to switch the weights, so I changed it a bit to make it easier. I am doing this routine every 30 minutes:

5x6 Dips
5x6 Skullcrushers
5x6 Standing BB Curls
5x6 Standing DB Curls

I also decided to take the forearm lifts out until the end of the day. My fear is if I start doing them from the start, my forearms wil be too weak to hold the weights later on in the day. So my last 2 hours will also include:

5x6 Wrist Flexors
5x6 Wrist Curls
5x3 Wrist Rollers

Every hour I drink one of my homebrew drink mixes which contains Whey, Creatine, Glutamine, ALA, Flax Oil, Carb Mix, and Mutli Vitamins/Minerals. It's nasty as hell, but I've been drinking this mix since I started lifting a few years ago and it's been doing wonders.

So far it's going good. Well, back to lifting .

 

[SSAlexSS]

Ok, I am a firm believer in not knocking something until you try it. Therefor I made a little routine for tomorrow that I am calling "SSAlexSS Overtraining". It consists of what I read about ARMagadon and One Day Arm Cure, with a little change to fit my needs.

I'll be doing 250x6 bicep/tricep/forearm training at a tempo throughout the day and drinking more whey/glutamine/creatine/ala/flax mixes than I can probably handle. I am starting at 11am and ending at 9pm.

I'll keep you all updated on if I grow or not, and be sure to complain about how much it hurts. Don't be surprised if I don't post though, since I will probably be dead/in the hospital by the end of the day.

Btw - Yeah I know this is extremely stupid and is just overtraining, but it should be fun! If it works it works, if not I'll always have the memory of my extreme stupidity .

Do that routine!

And tell us how it works!


So maybe people would stop bugging me about it. Routine works period.

Try to start doing it as early as possible.

 

[Advaik]

4 sessions down, 6 to go... arg

That last session was nothing but forced reps. I had this tingle in my muscles the entire time, like they had fallen asleep or something. I tried to drink another shake and almost spit it up. Gawd this sucks, but it's still fun!

 

[CytoMel]

4 sessions down, 6 to go... arg

That last session was nothing but forced reps. I had this tingle in my muscles the entire time, like they had fallen asleep or something. I tried to drink another shake and almost spit it up. Gawd this sucks, but it's still fun!

Keep it up and tell us how it goes! You might want to decrease the weight and increase the reps as the day goes on.

I think that an occasional huge high volume day is a good idea. Arnold used to do this and hit like 50 sets over the course of a day, and obviously it worked for him.

I wonder if this would work well with lats. Superset a pulldown movement with a row and hit a ton of sets.

My friends and I used to do this sometimes with bench presses and curls and it worked well for us.

Hey the only way to find out if it works is to try it. Dont bother listening to the HIT people who bash the idea, train beyond the pain!

 

[Grizzly]

The reason for only one tri excersize is because I don't know anymore I could do with the weights I have. If I had a machine I could do something else. I may add something else, I'll see how it goes.

How about overhead db or bb extenstions and tricep kickbacks?

 

[Advaik]

I can't go anymore... I did 8 sessions, and now I can't even do the motion let alone with weights. I really dont have any pain, I can't even feel my arms at all. And they are heavy as hell, I can barely bring my drink to my mouth!

Well I guess I have to wait a week and see how it goes now .

 

[SSAlexSS]

I can't go anymore... I did 8 sessions, and now I can't even do the motion let alone with weights. I really dont have any pain, I can't even feel my arms at all. And they are heavy as hell, I can barely bring my drink to my mouth!

Well I guess I have to wait a week and see how it goes now .

CONTINUE!

Do 2 more! 2 more!
How much sets have you completed?

Watch some good inspirational movie and keep on pumping! Even if it is a light weight.

 

[Advaik]

Two hours later I managed to pump out my last two sessions. It was hell. I feel like throwing up now... pissing hurts... my stomach is growling because of all the shakes... can't wait to do it again!

Final Set Score:
50 BB Curls
50 DB Curls
25 Dips (Stopped after I couldnt do my own weight)
31 Skullcrushers (Stopped after I felt a pop in my tricep and each rep was painful)
25 Wrist Flexors
25 Wrist Curls
25 Wrist Rollers

I would have kept going, but I can not even use my biceps anymore. I was using momentum in the end to get them up, and my lats/shoulders to lift my arms. It would be pointless to continue.

 

[SSAlexSS]

Two hours later I managed to pump out my last two sessions. It was hell. I feel like throwing up now... pissing hurts... my stomach is growling because of all the shakes... can't wait to do it again!

Final Set Score:
50 BB Curls
50 DB Curls
25 Dips (Stopped after I couldnt do my own weight)
31 Skullcrushers (Stopped after I felt a pop in my tricep and each rep was painful)
25 Wrist Flexors
25 Wrist Curls
25 Wrist Rollers

I would have kept going, but I can not even use my biceps anymore. I was using momentum in the end to get them up, and my lats/shoulders to lift my arms. It would be pointless to continue.

Use 5 pounders then!
Do tricep kickbacks! You still have few more golden hours left! THIS training will end soon, so make sure every minute counts! yeh!

 

[Haz]

LOL, I think Alex wants you to end up in an intensive care unit.

Can't wait to see what the results of this experiment are, thanks for keeping us posted.

 

[b fold the truth]

This sounds like a nightmare!!!!!

Look at it this way man....

If I can spend 15 hours a week in the gym and gain 50 lbs on all of my main lifts...great.

If I can spend 5 hours a week in the gym and gain 50 lbs on all of my main lifts...even better.

Anyone can see which is the most efficient. Opportunity cost...hmmmm..

B True

 

[The_Mexican]

LOL!

Fuck Advaik, hope you can get out of bed tomorrow... if this crazy stunt works, maybe Ill try it with legs... Ill have to book a month off work though

 

[Imnotdutch]

This sounds like a nightmare!!!!!

Look at it this way man....

If I can spend 15 hours a week in the gym and gain 50 lbs on all of my main lifts...great.

If I can spend 5 hours a week in the gym and gain 50 lbs on all of my main lifts...even better.

Anyone can see which is the most efficient. Opportunity cost...hmmmm..

B True

I was just thinking the same thing.....geez if you want to grow eat more and train smart.

Anybody know if he was ingesting anything but that homebrew drink??

 

[Advaik]

I am not as sore as I thought I would be today, although there is still alot of pain. I was very dehydrated when I got up, even though I drunk atleast 2 gallons of water yesterday. My arms look twice as big as normal, but I am sure it is just from the swellen. I also can't straighten out my arms, they are stuck at a 110 degree angle, I guess this is why I don't have much pain, my body isnt even allowing me to use my arms .

I forgot to mention that I did eat yesterday. Mainly things with alot of carbs/protien. When I got too tired to lift anymore, I would eat some high carb junk food (cereal, honeybun, etc) to give me a sugar boost.

All in all this was pretty fun, and if I do end up growing even just a few fractions of an inch, I'll still probably do it again.

 

[SSAlexSS]

I am not as sore as I thought I would be today, although there is still alot of pain. I was very dehydrated when I got up, even though I drunk atleast 2 gallons of water yesterday. My arms look twice as big as normal, but I am sure it is just from the swellen. I also can't straighten out my arms, they are stuck at a 110 degree angle, I guess this is why I don't have much pain, my body isnt even allowing me to use my arms .

I forgot to mention that I did eat yesterday. Mainly things with alot of carbs/protien. When I got too tired to lift anymore, I would eat some high carb junk food (cereal, honeybun, etc) to give me a sugar boost.

All in all this was pretty fun, and if I do end up growing even just a few fractions of an inch, I'll still probably do it again.

So hey. Update us more on your progress.

You should also try 100 sets of squats and 100 sets of deadlifts in one day.
I heard it gives you even better results!

 

[Advaik]

It's now the third day, and when I woke up I was in PAIN. I couldnt even move my arms. I almost cried taking a shower. I also noticed that my arms were no longer swollen, they just hurt alot.

However, when I measured my arms they were 1/2 inch larger! I don't know if I am keeping these gains or if it's just temp, but that sure made my day . I'll let you know how much I gain at the end of the week.

 

[Haz]

LOL Advaik, now I'm wondering if your story is all a hoax to try and get us to destroy our arms! 1/2 a fucking inch!? Man, if that ain't all bull, I'm willing to give it a try.

 

[Advaik]

I kid you not. I should mention that I took 30g Creatine 15g ALA on the day of the lifting, and have been taking 10g Creatine 5g ALA each day after. So it could just be temp. Like I said, I am gonna give it till the end of the week before I start making actual claims. If I keep this 1/2 inch, I'll be damn sure to do it for squats/deadlifts sometime next month.

 

[b fold the truth]

If you couldn't move your arms and almost cried taking a shower...how did you get to where you could flex them to take a measurement?

Just curious...

B True

 

[Advaik]

I don't flex when I take measurements, I just hold my arm out.

 

[SSAlexSS]

It's now the third day, and when I woke up I was in PAIN. I couldnt even move my arms. I almost cried taking a shower. I also noticed that my arms were no longer swollen, they just hurt alot.

However, when I measured my arms they were 1/2 inch larger! I don't know if I am keeping these gains or if it's just temp, but that sure made my day . I'll let you know how much I gain at the end of the week.

If it was your 3rd day it is doubtful that it is all blood or pump. it doesnt last so long!

Congrats! You have grown instant arms!

My methods DO work!!

 

[b fold the truth]

When my chest gets sore...it feels and is swollen for a few days. I can only imagine after you overtrain them like you have...for how many days that they would be swollen.

B True

 

[Imnotdutch]

If it was your 3rd day it is doubtful that it is all blood or pump. it doesnt last so long!

Congrats! You have grown instant arms!

My methods DO work!!

This is a joke right????? Blood and a pump wouldn't last long at all, I agree.......but who's to say that it isn't genuine swelling just like you get when you, for instance, twist your ankle???? That is the type of swelling that Bfold is talking about......your body uses it to protect damaged body parts. Also, just like bfold, I get very noticable swelling that stays with me for a few days after I bench heavy. I don't claim it as a genuine increase in size though.

If he still has that extra half an inch in 3 weeks, once he has hopefully repaired allof that damage he has done to the muscle, then you might be warranted in making your claims.

 

[Advaik]

Pain is very small now (it's been 6 days). There is no more swelling, and I am now just beginning to grow. I am going to give it until monday before I post results, but the results are not very good thus far.

 

[b fold the truth]

Just curious...but if your arms were that sore...how did you train chest, back, and legs this week? What about shoulders?

B True

 

[Advaik]

Sadly, all I did was squats with a smith machine. I could not use my arms at all, it even hurt just to lift a glass of water to my mouth. I guess that is the major turn off of doing this.

 

[Advaik]

Final Results:
0.15 inchs in biceps and I had to take a week off of lifting to heal. Not wroth it in my opinion. I had alot of pain and got very sick from doing this.

 

[SSAlexSS]

Final Results:
0.15 inchs in biceps and I had to take a week off of lifting to heal. Not wroth it in my opinion. I had alot of pain and got very sick from doing this.

Still SOME GAINS are better than none.


I guess you should have used 2x the amount of sets.

 

[Imnotdutch]

0.15 inches is in the error of the measurement........I doubt that there is anybody who can reliably measure their bi's tothat level of accuracy.

Twice the number of sets?????!!!! Ok I wont go there.......

Still SOME GAINS are better than none.


I guess you should have used 2x the amount of sets.

 

[Night Fly]

Good gosh...that is just flat out ridiculous.

There is no way I would go through that much pain for a .15 in growth in my arms. I can't afford to sacrifice a weeks worth of working out, either...

 

[SSAlexSS]

Good gosh...that is just flat out ridiculous.

There is no way I would go through that much pain for a .15 in growth in my arms. I can't afford to sacrifice a weeks worth of working out, either...

ARE you a bodybuilder??? Then you should do anything to GROW AND GROW!


No pain, no gain.



Taking a week off training wont do much harm. Howeever you WILL grow biceps, rather than spending that week and not growing.

 

[Imnotdutch]

ARE you a bodybuilder??? Then you should do anything to GROW AND GROW!


No pain, no gain.



Taking a week off training wont do much harm. Howeever you WILL grow biceps, rather than spending that week and not growing.

Are you avoiding my point????

And last time I looked female bodybuilding wasn't just about being huge......

 

[Night Fly]

ARE you a bodybuilder??? Then you should do anything to GROW AND GROW!


No pain, no gain.



Taking a week off training wont do much harm. Howeever you WILL grow biceps, rather than spending that week and not growing.

NO, I am NOT a bodybuilder. ARE YOU???? I am training for a strength contest in 3 weeks...so taking a week off of my training would be detrimental to my progress. Don't speak of that which you do not know.

 

[SSAlexSS]

NO, I am NOT a bodybuilder. ARE YOU???? I am training for a strength contest in 3 weeks...so taking a week off of my training would be detrimental to my progress. Don't speak of that which you do not know.

Pardon moa mademousele (hahaha I suck at french).


Did you tell me you were into strength and not size? Pardon me,
but I thought you were in it for size - and that is what made me question stuff.

My telepathic abilities are not yet fully developed captain sparky.
Warp speed 5..... Beep me up scotty.

P.S. I hate Star Trek