starting first cycle soon...critique please

[tpac44]

Im thinking about starting my first cycle. Ive been working out for about five years about 2 and half i consider real serious with dieting and such. For my first cycle i just want to do something light to help me pack on some mass and try to be the safest as possible. So this is what ive come up with .... please let me know if i should change anything...thanks

Weeks 1-10:
500mg testosterone per week
1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day

Week 11:
300mg testosterone per week
1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day

Week 12:
200mg testosterone per week
1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
1 tablet of clomid every day (50mg)
320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day

Week 13:
1.25mg of finasteride per day
.25mg of Arimidex every other day
100mg of clomid every day

Week 14:
1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every 3rd day (0.25mg)
50mg of clomid every day

 

[Nomak666]

What kind of testosterone are you running? if youre running test enanthate or cypionate, you should start clomid 2 weeks after last injection. if youre using test prop, start pct 3 days after last injection.

 

[therugger]

First we need your stats, like age, height and weight. Also some idea if you have diet under control before we can really help. But off hand no need to taper te test, looks like you're running long ester or sust so just run at 500 the whole time. Also no need for clomid during cycle just PCT. Are you planning on using HCG?

 

[tpac44]

sorry about that ... my info is im 22, 5 foot 11 and about 190lbs, currently i play hockey, practice 3 times a week and 2 games on the weekend. Other than that i workout about 4-5 times a week. I plan on using test-e and im not sure whether or not i should use hcg...would i need to? Also im pretty confident i have my diet under control on average daily i get 3500-4000 cals, 350+ g of protein, 300+g carbs and about 80+g of fat.

 

[therugger]

yes I would add HCG

 

[tpac44]

also i forgot to mention i will be working out hard and eating right for another month or so before starting my cycle...

 

[thebigoz]

1) Yes you need HCG. Take 250mg every 4 days from weeks 4-12.
2) Don't taper your test. Start and finish on the same amount if you're using the same ester the entire cycle.
3) I wouldn't be taking A-dex until you have signs of gyno or unwanted estrogen related sides (heavy water retention etc)
4) Do you have a history of MPB? Just curious as to why you are taking Fina the entire cycle.
5) For a 12 week cycle, you need a better PCT. Take a look at Unleashed / Post-Cycle / Sustain

 

[tpac44]

thanks for the advice, i was just wondering if i dont take A-dex and start experiencing some sides ...would they go away upon taking A-dex. And yes i believe i have a history of mpb, im already thin in certain areas and overall pretty thin entirely. Also i dont gain fat that easily ive always been thin and cut even when trying to bulk up, i read that has something to do with how you will react or bloat to the test. thanks

 

[tpac44]

i would also like to know when i should do the injections throughout the week ....i also have to read up more about the actual injections themselves as far as how to do them, havent had the time to do that yet

 

[jacked55]

What kind of test is it?

 

[gear63]

SpotInjections.com here ya go all the info you need, also if it is a PROP ester everyday or EOD, If it is a long ester like CYP or E then twice a week maybe one time a week.

and yeah the Adex will remove the problem even if not takin before it occurs, it will harm gains if taken when it is not really needed. so only use it if you need it

 

[tpac44]

test- enanthate

 

[thebigoz]

Test-E should be injected twice a week in order to provide steady blood levels. Split the dosage in half and pin twice. Mon/Thurs or something similar.

You will not suddenly develop massive estrogen related signs. You will notice signs that will indicate you are starting to get impacted by the increased estrogen. This is why I recommend taking A-Dex only upon noticing sides. Estrogen is something that you NEED - in the right amounts of course - so you don't want to completely hamper aromatization for your entire cycle.

Fat has nothing to do with bloat. Estrogen related bloat is from water retention. You can typically fight this by DRINKING MORE WATER. Your body will retain water if you aren't giving it enough.

 

[tpac44]

ohh now i understand...so basically wait until i show signs of over production of estrogen until i decide to take the A-dex...because with taking the A-dex right away i might suppress my estrogen too much ... my only question to that is if i notice signs then if i take the A-dex those signs will disappear? such as bloat, moodiness and gyno

 

[ArmaniAK47]

I tend to shy off from the harsh ancilliary drugs.. Maybe just use them if side effects show and for some PCT?

I personally would add a little HCG after the end of the cycle. (that is, if I cycled.. I use year round one dosage or another.)

And I also think there is no need to taper the test dosage, as others have said.

Just my two cents.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

ohh now i understand...so basically wait until i show signs of over production of estrogen until i decide to take the A-dex...because with taking the A-dex right away i might suppress my estrogen too much ... my only question to that is if i notice signs then if i take the A-dex those signs will disappear? such as bloat, moodiness and gyno

I agree, besides a little estrogen is good for gains! Estrogen up-regulates andro receptors and keeps cholesterol in check.

 

[tpac44]

arite thanks for the help guys... so i basically will be doing 500mg test-e twice a week, hgc during cycle and fincar for my hair so i dont lose it.... for pct someone said clomid wont be sufficient, what do you guys think would be a good pct

 

[thebigoz]

In this day and age, I don't care what your cycle is, Clomid is not a satisfactory PCT.

There are so many great PCT products out there that WORK.

Check out Unleashed / Post-Cycle / Forged Post-Cycle / Sustain

 

[thebigoz]

ohh now i understand...so basically wait until i show signs of over production of estrogen until i decide to take the A-dex...because with taking the A-dex right away i might suppress my estrogen too much ... my only question to that is if i notice signs then if i take the A-dex those signs will disappear? such as bloat, moodiness and gyno

Yes, A-Dex will help to address any estrogen related sides once they appear. You need to act quickly though, especially if you notice an onset of gyno.

 

[tpac44]

yea that is one thing that i am definently very afraid of getting gyno