Started 12 week Test-e cycle - Protein intake question

[pds999]

I've just started a 12 week Test-e cycle (250mg twice a week) with Arimidex 0.25mg three times a week and planning to run Clomid as PCT.

My question is about protein intake? I have read that some of you guys are aiming at 250-300g per day upwards which I find almost impossible to do. I am currently eating pretty normally and having two 60g protein shakes a day so my protein intake is probably around 175-200g per day on average. I just don't have the time to have 6 small high protein meals a day as many recommend and it just totally bloats me out so I am more than full.

Has anyone any suggestions as to what to do and am I going to really hold myself back at 175-200g per day? I am 12 stone 4lbs, 5'11 and around 12-13% body fat. I do cardio twice a week (4 mile run).

Thanks...

 

[dabuffguy]

I've just started a 12 week Test-e cycle (250mg twice a week) with Arimidex 0.25mg three times a week and planning to run Clomid as PCT.

My question is about protein intake? I have read that some of you guys are aiming at 250-300g per day upwards which I find almost impossible to do. I am currently eating pretty normally and having two 60g protein shakes a day so my protein intake is probably around 175-200g per day on average. I just don't have the time to have 6 small high protein meals a day as many recommend and it just totally bloats me out so I am more than full.

Has anyone any suggestions as to what to do and am I going to really hold myself back at 175-200g per day? I am 12 stone, 5'11 and around 12-13% body fat. I do cardio twice a week (4 mile run).

Thanks...

that will hold you back. I don't see how hard it is to get sufficient protein.

At breakfast, have a 1/2 cup of cottage cheese with your breakfast. there's an extra 12g. at night have a can of tuna and one of your 60 gram shakes. there's another 30+ grams from the tuna (2.5 ounces). At lunch, have an 8-10 ounces of chicken/turkey/beef, and at dinner have another 8-10 ounces of meat. Drink 2 cups of 1% or skim milk with your meals, plus 1 of your 60 gram shakes (PWO) and you should be well over 300 grams. It's not that hard really.

 

[pds999]

that will hold you back. I don't see how hard it is to get sufficient protein.

At breakfast, have a 1/2 cup of cottage cheese with your breakfast. there's an extra 12g. at night have a can of tuna and one of your 60 gram shakes. there's another 30+ grams from the tuna (2.5 ounces). At lunch, have an 8-10 ounces of chicken/turkey/beef, and at dinner have another 8-10 ounces of meat. Drink 2 cups of 1% or skim milk with your meals, plus 1 of your 60 gram shakes (PWO) and you should be well over 300 grams. It's not that hard really.

Thanks for the advice.

As for my weight (before people comment on that), I am 12 stone 4 lbs which I totally accept is probably not at my muscular peak and probably not ideal to be on Test-e at this weight. I am 34 so maybe I am looking for some quick gains without exhausting natural methods first. Totally accept that. I have however been working out for many years and feel I have plateaued in terms of size and stength on a diet I considered sustainable (probably around 120g protein per day pre gear). I just don't have the time to eat the protein needed in the right form hence the short cuts I guess.

 

[sugashane]

that will hold you back. I don't see how hard it is to get sufficient protein.

At breakfast, have a 1/2 cup of cottage cheese with your breakfast. there's an extra 12g. at night have a can of tuna and one of your 60 gram shakes. there's another 30+ grams from the tuna (2.5 ounces). At lunch, have an 8-10 ounces of chicken/turkey/beef, and at dinner have another 8-10 ounces of meat. Drink 2 cups of 1% or skim milk with your meals, plus 1 of your 60 gram shakes (PWO) and you should be well over 300 grams. It's not that hard really.

Good post. Also adding diced chicken breast to salads, making your own protein bars, and my favorite trick is to buy powdered milk, but mix it with milk. This ups the protein a lot.

 

[Nelson Montana]

YOu get 120 grams of protein from shakes and your overall intake is 175 grams? What does the rest of your diet consist of, cupcakes?

If you're going to complain about taking in protein as a bodybuilder it's like trying to be a musician and complain you don't have time to practice your instrument.

Your muscles don't give a shit about excuses. You'll get the results you get, either way.

 

[small but working on it]

YOu get 120 grams of protein from shakes and your overall intake is 175 grams? What does the rest of your diet consist of, cupcakes?

If you're going to complain about taking in protein as a bodybuilder it's like trying to be a musician and complain you don't have time to practice your instrument.

Your muscles don't give a shit about excuses. You'll get the results you get, either way.

I hear that. I was having a difficult time but with the milk,tuna,shakes,and bars added to my already loaded protein, I got there. I am also curious how much is 12 stones in lbs ?

 

[cobracock1979]

I hate eatin but 70% gains come in the kitchen imho - if you cant commit to 2g protein/ lb bodyweight then you are not ready for aas

 

[pds999]

I hear that. I was having a difficult time but with the milk,tuna,shakes,and bars added to my already loaded protein, I got there. I am also curious how much is 12 stones in lbs ?

12 stone 4 lbs is 172 lbs (about 78kg). Thanks for the comments above. When you break it down I should be able to get the 250-300g protein I probably need. 120g from shakes, two tins tuna, two larger meals, porridge, cottage cheese, etc = around 275g without anything else or having to try that hard.

 

[cobracock1979]

12 stone 4 lbs is 172 lbs (about 78kg). Thanks for the comments above. When you break it down I should be able to get the 250-300g protein I probably need. 120g from shakes, two tins tuna, two larger meals, porridge, cottage cheese, etc = around 275g without anything else or having to try that hard.

Minimise protein in shakes and go for whole foods - you can have a 70mg protein shake but the fact is you will absorb less that half the protein

 

[dabuffguy]

Minimise protein in shakes and go for whole foods - you can have a 70mg protein shake but the fact is you will absorb less that half the protein

yep, your body isn't going to absorb 70 grams of protein into your blood all at once, it would turn into blood pudding. whey proetein is broken down within 3 hours. The only reason you can eat a ton of meat and get the benefit is because it breaks down slowly so your body can use it when it needs.

btw I eat 2 lbs of meat daily. it's a lot, but it gives me the protein I need from the best source possible (beef and poultry). I take a 20 gram whey shake in the morning with breakfast to get blod levels up, and 30gram after workouts for buliding what I just broke down (immediately followed by dinner), and a 40 gram casein with 2 ounces of tuna before bed for overnight long lasting proteins while I sleep. If you fill in the cracks with the proteins from milk and other stuff, my protein intake exceeds 350 grams(I weigh 215). Probably more than I need, but I grow.