Stanozolol (Winstrol) - side effects

[EliteFitnessGuy]

I have been taking 30 mg of stanozolol+30 mg Turinabol for 3 weeks. I have gained about 3,5 kg so far (7,5 lbs) and my bench press went up by more than 10 kg (22 lbs). I have heard that stanozolol is quite aggressive on hair, causing itching of the scalp and rapid hair loss, while Turinabol doesn't cause any side effects at usual doses around 40 mg/day. I thought that the type of hair loss during the use of stanozolol was not male pattern baldness, but telogen effluvium (rapid hair loss caused by hormonal stress, not directly by the androgenicity of this stuff), but after my current experience I am changing my opinion.

I have a mild, but noticeable acne on my face that is getting worse and worse, and my eyebrows suddenly started to grow like in a grizzly bear. I had to shave it today, otherwise I couldn't leave my house So there is definitely a marked androgenic activity in the skin during this my cycle! I also feel mild, but unpleasant joint pain during heavy pull-ups.

Since Turinabol has never been tied with such side effects, I think that Winny must be the trigger here - either directly or indirectly (through SHBG). Since I am prone to male pattern baldness, I have been successfully using minoxidil for many years and I suppose I won't suffer any hair loss. I actually started to use a stronger (5%) minoxidil 2 weeks ago to avoid any possible problems. I don't exclude that the observed hair growth on my face could be actually caused by minoxidil (which can work this way if it is too absorbed into the blood), but I think that I have been using it for too short a time, and the concurrent manifestation of both acne and hair growth rather speaks for the steroids.

Do you have any similar experience with these steroids?

I must add that I am extremely prone to everything androgenic; during my adolescence I suffered from such an acne that if they took a photograph of me then, I would be now in every medical book, section "Skin diseases-Horrors".

Fortunately, I will be taking the full dose for only 1 week, and then I will go down to lower doses for 2 weeks. Anyway, this combination obviously isn't good for me and I wanted to share my experience on this forum to warn all users with similar predispositions.

This is actually my first bigger cycle (the first one was rather a 6-weeks' mini-cycle with 6x200 mg of nandrolone, which however worked quite satisfactorily). I planned another bigger oral cycle (40 mg Oxandrolone+40 mg Turinabol) in the autumn, but after this experience I will rather return to nandrolone in combination with Turinabol. Nandrolone caused no side effects in me, except acne in the back several weeks after the end of the cycle.

 

[cop]

hey bro,

I'm also prone to hairloss and can't use test or dbol anymore..
currently on 8 weeker of 250 deca/week and 30mg tbol that i will be taking 2 weeks further than the deca..
no hairloss at this moment..7 weeks in..just little acne on shoulders now

 

[EliteFitnessGuy]

hey bro,

I'm also prone to hairloss and can't use test or dbol anymore..
currently on 8 weeker of 250 deca/week and 30mg tbol that i will be taking 2 weeks further than the deca..
no hairloss at this moment..7 weeks in..just little acne on shoulders now

At first I thought about using oxandrolone, but now I think that Turinabol may be comparably effective for strength and even more for mass - and for a lower price.

But I think over, if I should start using Turinabol later than nandrolone, because the effect of nandrolone was slow in me - in fact, I started to see first results as late as after 4 weeks of use, and it continued about 3-4 weeks after the last injection. So I would like to start using Turinabol, say, 2 weeks after nandrolone, and stop it 2 weeks after the last application of nandrolone. I think it would also be better for the recuperation of the endogenous testosterone levels.

However, I plan to use nandrolone transdermally, which works differently than an injection (possibly much quicker), and I suppose that only few people have enough experience with the transdermal use of steroids here.

 

[needtogetarmy]

At first I thought about using oxandrolone, but now I think that Turinabol may be comparably effective for strength and even more for mass - and for a lower price.

But I think over, if I should start using Turinabol later than nandrolone, because the effect of nandrolone was slow in me - in fact, I started to see first results as late as after 4 weeks of use, and it continued about 3-4 weeks after the last injection. So I would like to start using Turinabol, say, 2 weeks after nandrolone, and stop it 2 weeks after the last application of nandrolone. I think it would also be better for the recuperation of the endogenous testosterone levels.

However, I plan to use nandrolone transdermally, which works differently than an injection (possibly much quicker), and I suppose that only few people have enough experience with the transdermal use of steroids here.

How are you taking it transdermally? DMSO?

 

[cop]

why don't you use NPP.....the faster acting nandrolone???

 

[Latamier]

I'm not very prone to sides like alot of other people are. Guess everybody is different. The thing I do notice about winny however is that it will make my shoulders and knees kind of sore after a while. Joint pain basically.

 

[nzrodney]

Stanozolol is a precursor to DHT (some will argue that it is a DHT derivitive). Anyway it binds strongly to the AR & causes the usual sides where prone of hair loss (MPB) & increased oily skin & acne (cystic acne for me on high doses)

 

[timtim]

winstrol destroys cholesterol.

 

[EliteFitnessGuy]

How are you taking it transdermally? DMSO?

I got advice from my friend, who is both a chemist and a passionate steroid user

He uses Chinese steroid powder mixed in Phlojel Ultra
http://www.jarpharma.com/phlojelultra.htm

It can save your liver and you don't have to inject anything. But it is not as easy as it may look; the absorbtion rate is very uncertain (usually 30-40%, maybe 50%, maybe even 76%), so proper dosing is a big problem and may result in serious side effects. He says that he used up to 240 mg trenbolone/day, which seems somewhat hazardous to me. But he reported no problems.

If I used Phlojel Ultra for transdermal absorption, then I would use it for injectable steroids only, because I hate injections. I would combine it with some light oral steroid in which I could control everyday's doses easily. This would lower the risk of overdosage.

As for nandrolone, I used decaonate (Greek Norma), because no other stuff was available for reasonable money.

 

[V-Machine]

Seems to me that your going to be spending a lot more just to avoid some jabs. I'd just get over the issue with jabs and spend the money on food.

I got advice from my friend, who is both a chemist and a passionate steroid user

He uses Chinese steroid powder mixed in Phlojel Ultra
http://www.jarpharma.com/phlojelultra.htm

It can save your liver and you don't have to inject anything. But it is not as easy as it may look; the absorbtion rate is very uncertain (usually 30-40%, maybe 50%, maybe even 76%), so proper dosing is a big problem and may result in serious side effects. He says that he used up to 240 mg trenbolone/day, which seems somewhat hazardous to me. But he reported no problems.

If I used Phlojel Ultra for transdermal absorption, then I would use it for injectable steroids only, because I hate injections. I would combine it with some light oral steroid in which I could control everyday's doses easily. This would lower the risk of overdosage.

As for nandrolone, I used decaonate (Greek Norma), because no other stuff was available for reasonable money.