Stanozolol (Winstrol) - side effects

[EliteFitnessGuy]

I have been taking 30 mg of stanozolol+30 mg Turinabol for 3 weeks. I have gained about 3,5 kg so far (7,5 lbs) and my bench press went up by more than 10 kg (22 lbs). I have heard that stanozolol is quite aggressive on hair, causing itching of the scalp and rapid hair loss, while Turinabol doesn't cause any side effects at usual doses around 40 mg/day. I thought that the type of hair loss during the use of stanozolol was not male pattern baldness, but telogen effluvium (rapid hair loss caused by hormonal stress, not directly by the androgenicity of this stuff), but after my current experience I am changing my opinion.

I have a mild, but noticeable acne on my face that is getting worse and worse, and my eyebrows suddenly started to grow like in a grizzly bear. I had to shave it today, otherwise I couldn't leave my house So there is definitely a marked androgenic activity in the skin during this my cycle! I also feel mild, but unpleasant joint pain during heavy pull-ups.

Since Turinabol has never been tied with such side effects, I think that Winny must be the trigger here - either directly or indirectly (through SHBG). Since I am prone to male pattern baldness, I have been successfully using minoxidil for many years and I suppose I won't suffer any hair loss. I actually started to use a stronger (5%) minoxidil 2 weeks ago to avoid any possible problems. I don't exclude that the observed hair growth on my face could be actually caused by minoxidil (which can work this way if it is too absorbed into the blood), but I think that I have been using it for too short a time, and the concurrent manifestation of both acne and hair growth rather speaks for the steroids.

Do you have any similar experience with these steroids?

I must add that I am extremely prone to everything androgenic; during my adolescence I suffered from such an acne that if they took a photograph of me then, I would be now in every medical book, section "Skin diseases-Horrors".

Fortunately, I will be taking the full dose for only 1 week, and then I will go down to lower doses for 2 weeks. Anyway, this combination obviously isn't good for me and I wanted to share my experience on this forum to warn all users with similar predispositions.

This is actually my first bigger cycle (the first one was rather a 6-weeks' mini-cycle with 6x200 mg of nandrolone, which however worked quite satisfactorily). I planned another bigger oral cycle (40 mg Oxandrolone+40 mg Turinabol) in the autumn, but after this experience I will rather return to nandrolone in combination with Turinabol. Nandrolone caused no side effects in me, except acne in the back several weeks after the end of the cycle.

 

[cop]

hey bro,

I'm also prone to hairloss and can't use test or dbol anymore..
currently on 8 weeker of 250 deca/week and 30mg tbol that i will be taking 2 weeks further than the deca..
no hairloss at this moment..7 weeks in..just little acne on shoulders now

 

[EliteFitnessGuy]

hey bro,

I'm also prone to hairloss and can't use test or dbol anymore..
currently on 8 weeker of 250 deca/week and 30mg tbol that i will be taking 2 weeks further than the deca..
no hairloss at this moment..7 weeks in..just little acne on shoulders now

At first I thought about using oxandrolone, but now I think that Turinabol may be comparably effective for strength and even more for mass - and for a lower price.

But I think over, if I should start using Turinabol later than nandrolone, because the effect of nandrolone was slow in me - in fact, I started to see first results as late as after 4 weeks of use, and it continued about 3-4 weeks after the last injection. So I would like to start using Turinabol, say, 2 weeks after nandrolone, and stop it 2 weeks after the last application of nandrolone. I think it would also be better for the recuperation of the endogenous testosterone levels.

However, I plan to use nandrolone transdermally, which works differently than an injection (possibly much quicker), and I suppose that only few people have enough experience with the transdermal use of steroids here.

 

[needtogetarmy]

At first I thought about using oxandrolone, but now I think that Turinabol may be comparably effective for strength and even more for mass - and for a lower price.

But I think over, if I should start using Turinabol later than nandrolone, because the effect of nandrolone was slow in me - in fact, I started to see first results as late as after 4 weeks of use, and it continued about 3-4 weeks after the last injection. So I would like to start using Turinabol, say, 2 weeks after nandrolone, and stop it 2 weeks after the last application of nandrolone. I think it would also be better for the recuperation of the endogenous testosterone levels.

However, I plan to use nandrolone transdermally, which works differently than an injection (possibly much quicker), and I suppose that only few people have enough experience with the transdermal use of steroids here.

How are you taking it transdermally? DMSO?

 

[cop]

why don't you use NPP.....the faster acting nandrolone???

 

[Latamier]

I'm not very prone to sides like alot of other people are. Guess everybody is different. The thing I do notice about winny however is that it will make my shoulders and knees kind of sore after a while. Joint pain basically.

 

[nzrodney]

Stanozolol is a precursor to DHT (some will argue that it is a DHT derivitive). Anyway it binds strongly to the AR & causes the usual sides where prone of hair loss (MPB) & increased oily skin & acne (cystic acne for me on high doses)

 

[timtim]

winstrol destroys cholesterol.

 

[EliteFitnessGuy]

How are you taking it transdermally? DMSO?

I got advice from my friend, who is both a chemist and a passionate steroid user

He uses Chinese steroid powder mixed in Phlojel Ultra
http://www.jarpharma.com/phlojelultra.htm

It can save your liver and you don't have to inject anything. But it is not as easy as it may look; the absorbtion rate is very uncertain (usually 30-40%, maybe 50%, maybe even 76%), so proper dosing is a big problem and may result in serious side effects. He says that he used up to 240 mg trenbolone/day, which seems somewhat hazardous to me. But he reported no problems.

If I used Phlojel Ultra for transdermal absorption, then I would use it for injectable steroids only, because I hate injections. I would combine it with some light oral steroid in which I could control everyday's doses easily. This would lower the risk of overdosage.

As for nandrolone, I used decaonate (Greek Norma), because no other stuff was available for reasonable money.

 

[V-Machine]

Seems to me that your going to be spending a lot more just to avoid some jabs. I'd just get over the issue with jabs and spend the money on food.

I got advice from my friend, who is both a chemist and a passionate steroid user

He uses Chinese steroid powder mixed in Phlojel Ultra
http://www.jarpharma.com/phlojelultra.htm

It can save your liver and you don't have to inject anything. But it is not as easy as it may look; the absorbtion rate is very uncertain (usually 30-40%, maybe 50%, maybe even 76%), so proper dosing is a big problem and may result in serious side effects. He says that he used up to 240 mg trenbolone/day, which seems somewhat hazardous to me. But he reported no problems.

If I used Phlojel Ultra for transdermal absorption, then I would use it for injectable steroids only, because I hate injections. I would combine it with some light oral steroid in which I could control everyday's doses easily. This would lower the risk of overdosage.

As for nandrolone, I used decaonate (Greek Norma), because no other stuff was available for reasonable money.

 

[Style]

The worst side effect to me is that it makes your tendons brittle, damage them and you'll be out for a long time. I don't recommend them to anyone who trains with heavy weights.

 

[ALIN]

i get very few sides even with high dose winstrol

 

[EliteFitnessGuy]

Seems to me that your going to be spending a lot more just to avoid some jabs. I'd just get over the issue with jabs and spend the money on food.

No, no!
12 grams of nandrolone powder will cost you only about 30 USD.

30 USD for 12 weeks, at doses corresponding to ca. 210-350 mg/week.

Where will you buy 3600 mg (300 mgx12) nandrolone for such a price? The cheapest injectable nandrolone that I have ever seen cost 66 USD for 2500 mg.

 

[chris_ssj3]

Hey, About 3 years ago I was training for a bodybuilding competition and my dad gave me some stuff to make me lean but he didn't tellme what it was. It ended up being Winstrol tabs. I had to finish the cycle cuz i already started it and didn't want to fuck myself i didnt know anything about steroids at all he told me how to take it and what to do. I found that I gaind mass ammounts of strength i was benching 155lbs to 275 lbs in a month. I already had acne on my back due to bad skin since i was 13 so i wounldn't know if this made it worse or not but i noticed tanning took it all away all the scars and blemishes. MY sex drive went wayyyy down. I didn't even feel like having sex or think about it i wasn't feeling anything i thought something was wrong but then i read up on it and found that that is a side-effect. As for baldness I never noticed any hair loss but then again i keep my head shaved pretty short. As for the dry joints I never experienced any pain or tension in the joints except my las day of traning before comp I was doing a machine lower chest bench and me and my traning partner both hear a tear in my wrist and i felt somthing but no pain at first. its never been the same again constant pain for the last 3 years and i can't move it properly anymore its fucked. My doc said i probably rubbed a tendon accross the bone very rough but i don't think so. lol im no doctor but i do thats not just a rubbed tendon. anyway just sharing my winstrol story with you guys for any second thoughts you might have. Oh ya and i got very very lean quickly. I was strongs and faster but no temper tantrums or mood swings. Im thinking of taking it again after thing long time but im trying to figure out how to get libido back and keep it and fight side effects if you have any advice on SIDE EFFECTS PLEASE give me some advice to fight the effects of winstrol it is an amazing drug but i don't want to use it again unless i can't counter act certin things about it. and if you have anything about acne for the back to that would help alot thanks.

 

[EliteFitnessGuy]

Hey, About 3 years ago I was training for a bodybuilding competition and my dad gave me some stuff to make me lean but he didn't tellme what it was. It ended up being Winstrol tabs. I had to finish the cycle cuz i already started it and didn't want to fuck myself i didnt know anything about steroids at all he told me how to take it and what to do. I found that I gaind mass ammounts of strength i was benching 155lbs to 275 lbs in a month. I already had acne on my back due to bad skin since i was 13 so i wounldn't know if this made it worse or not but i noticed tanning took it all away all the scars and blemishes. MY sex drive went wayyyy down. I didn't even feel like having sex or think about it i wasn't feeling anything i thought something was wrong but then i read up on it and found that that is a side-effect. As for baldness I never noticed any hair loss but then again i keep my head shaved pretty short. As for the dry joints I never experienced any pain or tension in the joints except my las day of traning before comp I was doing a machine lower chest bench and me and my traning partner both hear a tear in my wrist and i felt somthing but no pain at first. its never been the same again constant pain for the last 3 years and i can't move it properly anymore its fucked. My doc said i probably rubbed a tendon accross the bone very rough but i don't think so. lol im no doctor but i do thats not just a rubbed tendon. anyway just sharing my winstrol story with you guys for any second thoughts you might have. Oh ya and i got very very lean quickly. I was strongs and faster but no temper tantrums or mood swings. Im thinking of taking it again after thing long time but im trying to figure out how to get libido back and keep it and fight side effects if you have any advice on SIDE EFFECTS PLEASE give me some advice to fight the effects of winstrol it is an amazing drug but i don't want to use it again unless i can't counter act certin things about it. and if you have anything about acne for the back to that would help alot thanks.

I ran a second Winstrol+Turinabol cycle this year, with higher doeses of Winstrol (40-50 mg/day), and Winstrol destroyed my joints for about one month. The pain was so hellish that I couldn't do some exercises at all and I basically lost all the strength I had gained during the first weeks. It was a f*cked up cycle. I virtually got a Winstrol-phobia from it. I will probably never use it again, and if I do, then only together with nandrolone that is to heal joints. Since Winstrol is an anti-progestin, this combination would be very advantageous, because the steroids would basically neutralize each other's side effects.

 

[sbamb111]

Just finished some winstrol.............Will never do it again. This was a second run with it and this time I got ALL of the sides. Especially with my joints. I have been off of it for 4 days now and both my wrist feel like they are going to breack as well as my knees/ankles. I ran 50mgs a day along with some test @ 500 ew and feel like shit after. FUCK WINSTROL FUCK WINSTROL FUCK WINSTROL. I did lean out real nice tho..lol

 

[Nitro79]

i ruptured my shoulder tendon (right anterior deltoid) in my last cycle spring 2009 while i was on winstrol 50 mg /ed , i ran it for too long 12 weeks (along with test and tren too) ,i know it's stupid but i really wanted a solid rock body for summer, plus the second stupid thing i did was lifting heavy , and still suffering till now , but since i started eq in early november been 6 weeks i really feel alot better , dunno if it's really eq working or it's about the natural time to heal.

 

[DoomDawgy]

Hi,
I am 18 and am about to start a cycle of 30mg stanzonol plus 1 x 10mg anabol daily.
My dad is bald and so I'm worried about this side effect!
My question is, should I be doing what I'm doing? And what are the odds of these side effects etc.
Bear in mind my goal is not massive size, I'd like to bump my weight up a little and strength also, so that I can then work on toning up.
Any feedback is much appreciated.
Thanks!

 

[SouthernLord]

Hi,
I am 18 and am about to start a cycle of 30mg stanzonol plus 1 x 10mg anabol daily.
My dad is bald and so I'm worried about this side effect!
My question is, should I be doing what I'm doing? And what are the odds of these side effects etc.
Bear in mind my goal is not massive size, I'd like to bump my weight up a little and strength also, so that I can then work on toning up.
Any feedback is much appreciated.
Thanks!

I should ban you.

You have no business using aas at your age. You are far to young.

Btw, if you do cycle you'll go bald. Good luck with that.

 

[DoomDawgy]

I should ban you.

You have no business using aas at your age. You are far to young.

Btw, if you do cycle you'll go bald. Good luck with that.

I havent Started yet, whats the sort of age you should be when doing all this.

Anyway thanks for the feedback, just wanted to get a better grip on all this. Had it mentioned to me but I wanted to get a better idea before going into it.

 

[liffalot]

I havent Started yet, whats the sort of age you should be when doing all this.

Anyway thanks for the feedback, just wanted to get a better grip on all this. Had it mentioned to me but I wanted to get a better idea before going into it.

My first post on elite fitness was kind of like this. I was 18 and dissapointed with the results of my training so far (although they were substantial in hindsight). I came here and researched and wanted to do a cycle, but everyone warned me to hold off until I was at least 21 and my natural andro and test levels hit a plateau.

To this day I am grateful to everyone who flamed me, threatened to ban me, and called me a dumbass in that thread. It has been almost 2 years now and I have made huge improvements using only sweet diet and supplement routines that th members here helped me to find.

Honestly man, I know how it is. And I also know that once you've got your heart set on it, it's going to be really tough to stop you (thats why everyone is so harsh about it). But you will no regret waiting and saving your body.......the effects of using AAS on a body that is already in peak performance can be devastating.

PM me if you have any questions, I'm more than willing to help you out. But my advice on this one is hold off for a few years, as tough as it may be.

 

[RottenWillow]

Hi,
I am 18 and am about to start a cycle of 30mg stanzonol plus 1 x 10mg anabol daily.
My dad is bald and so I'm worried about this side effect!
My question is, should I be doing what I'm doing? And what are the odds of these side effects etc.
Bear in mind my goal is not massive size, I'd like to bump my weight up a little and strength also, so that I can then work on toning up.
Any feedback is much appreciated.
Thanks!

I'm assuming you're male. And we already know you're 18 years old. Right now your pituitary and your testicles are making truly miraculous amounts of anabolic hormones. All you need to do at this stage of your life is eat big, train big, and get plenty of sleep every night. You'll get big.

Everyone is ignorant once. You're forgiven. Now go train.