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hey guys , 5 weeks in on a test ciclophenylpropianate (hope i spelt correct) at 500mg a week and 50mg of proviron a day this is my second cycle (i lost every ounce that i gained from my first)in the first 3 weeks i have gained 13 lb which puts me at 5ft 3inch 185lb @ 14% but in the last week i havent gained an ounce in weight, i have done the usual increase of calories and carbs and protein since i stopped gaining and i am now eating more than ever , the only difference is the training, i used to do low sets to failiure and i trained this way for years but was advised to change to workouts with more volume and use supersets and dropsets etc so this is what i ahave done on this cycle-should i go back to my old way of training or is it normal for progress to stop after 3 weeks , its worth mentioning that my progress stopped 5 weeks into my last cycle which was deca and test @250mg of eacha week -any thoughts /tips would be great thanks
PS i have better pct in place this time
 
is your strength still going up and your lifts?
training for the pump etc now - even when i was on last time i was squatting and deading 5 plates a side my strength hit the wall before i used aas and hasnt increased much - i was thinking of gvt to progress past plateus - i am the beleif that with strength comes size -but the pro at our gym says that strength isnt infinite so should try other ways to increase intensity/load etc as i may be as strong as i can be with my usual hit style- i am tempted to go back to my old ways but i know i will hit failiure on the excact same reps/weights as before
 
strength isnt infinite but neither is size you need to remeber that, size generally hasnt greater limits then strength due to genetics, its why many people can never become bodybuilders, but alot fo others can become strength trainers or powerlifters

also 5 plates on a squat and deadlift isnt huge for a steroid user like us, you can take ur lifts far beyond that with good training and diet so IMO u could easily put on more strength with gear
as for maintaining it is a another story, im currently squating and deadlifting 6 plates on each side an can tell you that after PCT my strength plumets along with my size, you need to remeber the bigger you get and further you surpass ur natural genetic potential the faster u will loose ur gains when u come off cycle

me persoanly once i started lifting over 5 plates i could never maintain my size and strength once i came off gear, it just wasnt posssible with my genetics, u most likely can be in the same boat and need to accept their is a size and strength u can never maintain without steroids

as for the Pros advice, mine is to disregard everything he says, he may be a pro which is great for him, but his genetics are probably alot better then yours and he most likely never comes off steroids, hed most liekly just cycle low and high dosages of steroids to keep getting bigger and leaner

its like looking at jay cutlers diet and workouts, u would never follow either becuase u dotn have the ability, steroids and genetics to

if your new routine isnt working for you then use something you know does,

everyone is different

with strength will come size, theirs no arguement their, u can effect the ratio strength and size are gained at by ur training style but ineveidably if you raise ur deads and squat to 6 or 7 plates i have no doubt ull be ALOT bigger

as for ur problem if your not gaining weight then its a case of eating more, its really that simple, weight gains on steroids always tend to stabalise about half way through cycle becuase blood levels of the steroids begin to stabalise so your not going to be continuosly gaining from the higher doses of steroids in ur system anymore,, but rather ur training and diet come into bigger play here

increase ur calories by another 200-300 daily for a week

if your still not gaining weight increase them again, mathematicaly u will gian weight, their is always a point of where u will gain weight


Bro, 495 lbs is a great lift for someone weighing 180 lbs reguardless of their supplements.
 
Bro, 495 lbs is a great lift for someone weighing 180 lbs reguardless of their supplements.


I was thinking the same thing. 5 plates on a squat and especially a deadlift is a ridiculous amount of weight. Just because you are on steroids does not mean it should be an easy lift.
 
hey guys , 5 weeks in on a test ciclophenylpropianate (hope i spelt correct) at 500mg a week and 50mg of proviron a day this is my second cycle (i lost every ounce that i gained from my first)in the first 3 weeks i have gained 13 lb which puts me at 5ft 3inch 185lb @ 14% but in the last week i havent gained an ounce in weight, i have done the usual increase of calories and carbs and protein since i stopped gaining and i am now eating more than ever , the only difference is the training, i used to do low sets to failiure and i trained this way for years but was advised to change to workouts with more volume and use supersets and dropsets etc so this is what i ahave done on this cycle-should i go back to my old way of training or is it normal for progress to stop after 3 weeks , its worth mentioning that my progress stopped 5 weeks into my last cycle which was deca and test @250mg of eacha week -any thoughts /tips would be great thanks
PS i have better pct in place this time
i got to 4 and a half plates and 170lb naturally so i hope that i have more to gain than 15lb on steroids- i only lost the weight on last cycle due to sickness(flu /virus that lasted 3 weeks)i may have good genetics not many naturals or aas users at my gym who matched those lifts or my muscularity
 
i got to 4 and a half plates and 170lb naturally so i hope that i have more to gain than 15lb on steroids- i only lost the weight on last cycle due to sickness(flu /virus that lasted 3 weeks)i may have good genetics not many naturals or aas users at my gym who matched those lifts or my muscularity

thats great bro...just eat as much and as clean as you can...as long as your gear is good quality, your diet is good and your training contiues to be be intense, your going to grow! :evil:
 
thats great bro...just eat as much and as clean as you can...as long as your gear is good quality, your diet is good and your training contiues to be be intense, your going to grow! :evil:
thanks bro - my gear is good -just cant settle into a routine since leaving my hit style workouts i do fancy gvt 10 x 10 programme though
 
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