stacking on your first cycle?

[trickydick]

Ive finally decided to start my first cycle. Ive been reading for months but Ive never posted, so heres my first post.

I am about to start my first cycle. Im 31 yo, 6' 180 and Ive been training for a couple of years and have gained decent. I have obtained Primobolan, Dbol, and Anavar. I will be getting Test but Im not sure what kind I will be able to get. It may be Omnadren, cyp, or enth. My goal is to bulk and look more muscular with as few side effects as possible. I want to keep as much of my gains as possible. I have novadex for pct. I may also be able to get some HCG
I know that alot of people say to use only Test for your first cycle, and maybe frontload with Dbol. Ive not totally ruled that out. I could always save the Anavar and Primobolan for later. I found them at a good price so i bought them.

Ive saw nothing but good about Primo and I thought that if I used some and lowered my test dosage that I might have fewer chances of side effects. My original plan was
--Omnadren 250 mg every 4 days for 10 or 12 weeks (depending on if Im still gaining)
--Dbol 15 or 20 mgs (undecided) ED for the first 2 weeks or maybe 3 weeks. I know that some say longer but I hate to stay on the to long bc of possible sides.

I also read on short 2 week on 4-6 weeks off cycles and liked the sound of that but I would have to get a faster acting injectable. Ive also not seen enough people post results to feel totally comfortable with that yet.

Here are my my questions:

What do you think would be the best and safest cycle that would provide keepable results?

Its my understanding that if I use the primo as well that I can combine it with the Omnadren in one shot. Is that true? How many CC's can you shot at once?

I hear people talk about using 1000mg a week of primo, but its only 100mg per cc. How do they shot that much? 10 shots a week? BTW Im NOT considering 1000mg per week! I was just curious.

I only have 2 grams of the Primobolan Depot. So If I use it on this cycle, should I spread it out at like 200 mg per week or should I use it for just part of the cycle?

I know that some people say to front load with an oral for 4 weeks, but I want to go easy on my liver and avoid sides. Would 2 weeks of DBol followed by 2 weeks of Anavar be an idea or could I combine the two at a lower dosage for 4 weeks?

Thanks for taking the time to read the long post. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Dick

 

[702daswoll1]

Hey Dick:

Save the anavar and primo for cycle #2 and use the test and Dbol for your first run.
My 2 cc's. Or just run the test which is what I would do.

 

[hyp1]

for a first cycle I say stick to one compound and run it at a low dose.you don't even know how you respond to gear in general,and you'll be amazed at how much strength and size you can gain off of 250mgs of testosteorne enantahte a week if you eat and train correctly.also if you have any sides you will know precisely what is causing it and can adjust accordingly.also post cycle therapy will be much easier therefor making your gains a helluva a lot easier to keep.

save the dianabol for a second or 3rd cycle.learn how to crawl before you try to run,bro.

best of luck to you bro

 

[daveyboy2345]

your testosterone injectable won't kick in for 3-5 weeks, so you can definitely use d-bol for the first 3-4 weeks at a moderate dose of 15-30 mgs week. So in essence you will be able to tell if d-bol is good 4 your system because it won't interfere with the test till 4-5 weeks in.

save primo for cycle number 3-4, test and dbol are so readily available and basic you should stick with them for at least the first 2-3 cycles imho.

250-375 mgs of test a week for 10-12 weeks is ideal for you...
throw 20 mgs dbol for the first 5 weeks and your cool.
have nolvadex on hand and a anti-arom 2.

 

[trickydick]

I think I'll probably end up with the Omnadren instead of Test E or C. Ive heard 500 people say that 250mg a week was enough for your first and Ive heard 1000 people say to use 500 mg. Then on another web site everybody says to throw in EQ, Deca, or Primo. Im looking to start soon and want to get a plan together. Im open to ideas and I may well just go with the Omnadren with a little front loading. I do have to admit that it would be hard for me to consider using just 250 mg of test per week with nothing else. I want minimum sides but I dont want to waste a cycle. So is there anybody on here that thinks that there is a place for the Anavar or Primobolan in this cycle? Im reluctant to use the Dbol for 4 weeks because of the possibility of sides. That being said, would anyone consider this cycle?

---Omnadren 250 mg every 4 days for 1-10(or 12)weeks
---Dbol 15mg ED for weeks 1 and 2
---Anavar 20 mg weeks 3 and 4

Would the Anavar have time to act?

Would 20 mg be enough considering that the test would be running pretty strong by then?

Is this a worthless idea.

Thanks for the quick replies!

Dick

 

[hesnobradpitt]

IMO 20mg Var is a waste no matter how cheap i was and it wont do much
in 3 weeks so save it , the omn or eth is a good idea and if you stack
it only use the dbol , you dont need anything else its easy to get carried
away buy over thinking a first so KISS (keep it simple ????) good luck
Brad.

 

[702daswoll1]

I think I'll probably end up with the Omnadren instead of testosterone enanthate or C. Ive heard 500 people say that 250mg a week was enough for your first and Ive heard 1000 people say to use 500 mg. Then on another web site everybody says to throw in Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , or Primobolan - methenolone - . Im looking to start soon and want to get a plan together. Im open to ideas and I may well just go with the Omnadren with a little front loading. I do have to admit that it would be hard for me to consider using just 250 mg of test per week with nothing else. I want minimum sides but I dont want to waste a cycle. So is there anybody on here that thinks that there is a place for the Anavar or Primobolan in this cycle? Im reluctant to use the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for 4 weeks because of the possibility of sides. That being said, would anyone consider this cycle?

---Omnadren 250 mg every 4 days for 1-10(or 12)weeks
---Dbol 15mg ED for weeks 1 and 2
---Anavar 20 mg weeks 3 and 4

Would the Anavar have time to act?

Would 20 mg be enough considering that the test would be running pretty strong by then?

Is this a worthless idea.

Thanks for the quick replies!

Dick

Dont do 3 compounds on your first cycle. At the most do the test at 500mg every week split into two shots at least. If you feel you have to then run a few weeks of dbol 20-30mg every day and no more than that. You will get great gains from this cycle assuming you train hard and eat right.

 

[Selene]

for a first cycle I say stick to one compound and run it at a low dose.you don't even know how you respond to gear in general,and you'll be amazed at how much strength and size you can gain off of 250mgs of testosteorne enantahte a week if you eat and train correctly.also if you have any sides you will know precisely what is causing it and can adjust accordingly.also post cycle therapy will be much easier therefor making your gains a helluva a lot easier to keep.

save the dianabol for a second or 3rd cycle.learn how to crawl before you try to run,bro.

best of luck to you bro

yes I agree with this 100% excellent Advise!

 

[trickydick]

Thanks for the advice and helpful posts.

Im thinking that 250 mg of test every 4 days and a slight frontload doesed at 15 or 20 mg a day is going to be the ticket for my first romp.

I do have one more question. I ended up with 10cc of Testosterone Enanthate and 10cc of Omnadren. What do you think the effect would be of using 1/2 cc of E with 1/2 cc of Omnadren once every four days? I'll be posting this on another thread as well.

Thanks
Dick