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What does that mean when you tend to fall forward while on your way up (during a back squat set) ?

what's the weak link ?
 
Anthrax said:
What does that mean when you tend to fall forward while on your way up (during a back squat set) ?

what's the weak link ?

lol. that's kind of self explainatory. basically, instead of the bar traveling up and down in a straight line, the weight shifts for some reason, and causes the upperbody to "fall forward."

this can be due to several reasons:

the body tends to follow the head. so if you are looking down during the lift, the body will have a tendancy to fall forward during the lift. (the same is true with deadlifting.)

wearing a shoe that does not have a flat sole

not keeping the elbows tucked while squatting can also cause the body to fall forward. keeping the elbows tucked during the lift will help to ensure that the bar travels in a straight path. personally, i know that when i am coming out of the hole of the squat, i tend to push upwards on the bar. if you do this, and your elbows are flared (not tucked) you will push yourself forward.

when coming out of the hole, if you don't move with your head first, and make the first movement with the hips (this also goes back to the first point) you shift more of the work to the lower back, and unless you can to a GM with as much as you can squat, you will fall forward, and fail.

there are some more, but i just can't think of 'em right now.
 
quickest guess would be that your legs are locking out quicker than your hips. ie, youre not standing up right, your erectors could be the weak link or just form breakdown.
 
Illuminati said:
lol. that's kind of self explainatory. basically, instead of the bar traveling up and down in a straight line, the weight shifts for some reason, and causes the upperbody to "fall forward."

this can be due to several reasons:

the body tends to follow the head. so if you are looking down during the lift, the body will have a tendancy to fall forward during the lift. (the same is true with deadlifting.)

wearing a shoe that does not have a flat sole

not keeping the elbows tucked while squatting can also cause the body to fall forward. keeping the elbows tucked during the lift will help to ensure that the bar travels in a straight path. personally, i know that when i am coming out of the hole of the squat, i tend to push upwards on the bar. if you do this, and your elbows are flared (not tucked) you will push yourself forward.

when coming out of the hole, if you don't move with your head first, and make the first movement with the hips (this also goes back to the first point) you shift more of the work to the lower back, and unless you can to a GM with as much as you can squat, you will fall forward, and fail.

there are some more, but i just can't think of 'em right now.

Great Post
 
MsBeverlyHills said:
i think its your abs that are the wink link.. try wearing a belt.
come on now!!!

lets try this:

"i think its your abs that are the weak link.. try working them more." :qt:
 
MsBeverlyHills said:
"i think its your abs that are the weak link.. try working them more." :qt:

Anytime MsBeverlyHills ;)

As for the belt I try to avoid it
I'd rather squat less weight and strengthen my lower back than squating like a big mofo
 
Thanks all

good recommandation

I'll work on my lower back and abs, and be sure that I keep my head up (though I think I already do it)

"good" shoes might also help

:)
 
Concentrate on keeping your shoulders back/chest out and the weight over your heels, trying to explode up through your shoulders via the heels of your foot will help keep you on track to coming up straight. I think you're probably on track with the little less weight as well, especially if you're not using a belt.

One of the biggest guys I know, black guy who I've known for years does the "good morning" type squat. He's about 6'5" and about 320-330lbs. He can squat anywhere from the 500-600 lb range. He puts 25 lb plates under his heels to help keep him from falling forward. He can't do a real squat to save his life, then he's always asking me why his lower back hurts when he's doing squats. If he'd straighten up his form (which he's asked me to help and he's tried, but only gets frustrated and goes back) he'd be squatting well into the 700 range.

Sorry for the long-winded reply :rolleyes:
 
Anthrax said:
What does that mean when you tend to fall forward while on your way up (during a back squat set) ?

what's the weak link ?

When squating you must:

1) Sit back not down
2) Keep your arch while push your stomach out as hard as you can and hold it against your belt for the entire rep. Breath at the top only.
3) Out of the hole, your head goes back first, try to move the bar in a straight line, push out hard on your knees. Try and spread the floor apart with your feet on the way down and up.

Boz
 
that happens to me once in a while if i dont concentrate on the movement going up and down rather than just moving the weight
 
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