Spot GROWTH??!!

[pda321]

Let's say you had a particular weak bodypart. Let's say, one's pecs or something. Do you think it would be effective to, on the day that you train pecs, and perhaps the day after (when you're highly anabolic) inject something like test prop, to really get those pecs growing?! Can you do something like that?? It seems like it would work, but i've never heard of anyone doing anything like that.

 

[bluehen]

Most people say no, but I know a couple of people the swear be prop site injections. You might get better results like that with IGF.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

negitive on the HGH....great for IGF though

 

[alltraps]

it DOESNT WORK, EVER EVER EVER. i tried it with suspension, prop, tren, winny, enenthate, sustanon, deca, eq. pretty much everything. u get a nice swelling for a few weeks sometimes but then it goes back to normal. there is no such thing as site specific growth. maybe with igf, but thats still questionable

 

[pda321]

i don't actually mean injecting it into the pecs. inject it in the ass, it doesn't matter! what i mean is: by taking a short-acting test-booster like prop, that you raise your test levels during the 1-2 critical days where you are anabolic in that particular muscle group, stimulating extra growth in that partiuclar area. that's my theory anyway, and i'm wondering if empirically anyone could verify something like that.

 

[chefbone]

I'm sceptical on site growth by spot injections. It may work if you are a begginer.

 

[Its All Genetics]

i took prop shots in the quad, never got them any bigger... they were decent size to begin with though

took the enth. in the side delts ew this cycle and i think they gained some good size, but it could be from them growing from working then out real hard1

 

[LT3]

it DOESNT WORK, EVER EVER EVER. i tried it with suspension, prop, tren, winny, enenthate, sustanon, deca, eq. pretty much everything. u get a nice swelling for a few weeks sometimes but then it goes back to normal. there is no such thing as site specific growth. maybe with igf, but thats still questionable

I agree.

 

[ALIN]

Let's say you had a particular weak bodypart. Let's say, one's pecs or something. Do you think it would be effective to, on the day that you train pecs, and perhaps the day after (when you're highly anabolic) inject something like test prop, to really get those pecs growing?! Can you do something like that?? It seems like it would work, but i've never heard of anyone doing anything like that.

ive heard igf-1long is super for this.

 

[Gman1]

ya if you take prop like the day before a chest workout, youll have an awesome pump! and i always feel stronger the day after prop, on site injections though, i know there not supposed to give localized growth.. i dont think they do.. but they diffinitly swell up the muscle so it would appear to be bigger, but when the swelling goes down....my 2cents on site's...

 

[IrishHandGrenade]

Do you mean take the shot anywhere, but then afterwards work out the specific muscle that needs extra attention?

 

[TheRide]

it DOESNT WORK, EVER EVER EVER. i tried it with suspension, prop, tren, winny, enenthate, sustanon, deca, eq. pretty much everything. u get a nice swelling for a few weeks sometimes but then it goes back to normal. there is no such thing as site specific growth. maybe with igf, but thats still questionable

I agree w/ traps... I have heard some ppl using Winny for this but my opinion is that it's localized swelling, not growth...

There is always Pump n' Pose though

 

[chefbone]

It's all about spreading the muscle fascia...Anything you put in it damages it which, in turn, leads to regrowth at a faster rate...IMO

 

[wetback]

IF spot injects worked people would be walking around with HUGE asses. MOST inject in the glutes and most if not all do squats and some lunges. You would have an ass like Vida

 

[Throw2Far]

I was convinced it worked on my first cycle... i injected quads only and each head got massive... way bigger then the rest of my body...

 

[pda321]

ehh...i'm not talking about spot injects here boys...i'm talking about timing your body's state of steroid-induced anabolism to be highest on days when you work weak body parts.

 

[LVTitan]

i dont think they fully understand your question pda., i do , however i dont have an answer for you... it seems theoretically possible, especially if you were using suspension instead of prop even.

 

[210toosmall]

if your on cycle and taking x amount of gear per week there is x amount of gear in your system at all times, so it causes the super anabolic state , the gear is already there! it will make it grow.
now so far as site specific growth, it has more to do with your training/recovery than the timing of gear.

 

[pda321]

certain compounds are only in the system for a day or so--am i wrong in this supposition?

so let's say u had a TEST E base and had a blood lvl of 400mg every day for a week. But on mondays you do chest. So on monday you stick your ass with suspension or some short-acting steroid. maybe on tuesday too because you're really rebuilding then. in this manner, theoretically, could you induce your pecs to grow at a faster rate than the rest of you?? that's my question...

 

[alltraps]

certain compounds are only in the system for a day or so--am i wrong in this supposition?

so let's say u had a TEST E base and had a blood lvl of 400mg every day for a week. But on mondays you do chest. So on monday you stick your ass with suspension or some short-acting steroid. maybe on tuesday too because you're really rebuilding then. in this manner, theoretically, could you induce your pecs to grow at a faster rate than the rest of you?? that's my question...

why oh why would you even consider this? sorry but the concept seems retarded to me. the unevn levels and spikes in your hormones would be so out of wack, that even if by chance it helped with site specific growth, it would completely fuck you up. you would most likely supress your HPTA so that on the non shot days, u would have test levels of a 12 year old girl

 

[SlimJim300]

I won't gonna bust your balls because I used to have wild ideas much like this myself! Honestly though, the human body is just too complex to trick into unproportional growth patterns in this way. I can almost guarantee the body will find some way to compensate. For more growth, work the pecs harder, eat more, and if higher hormone levels are needed increase your dosage to a higher, but even, level.

 

[bluehen]

I won't gonna bust your balls because I used to have wild ideas much like this myself! Honestly though, the human body is just too complex to trick into unproportional growth patterns in this way. I can almost guarantee the body will find some way to compensate. For more growth, work the pecs harder, eat more, and if higher hormone levels are needed increase your dosage to a higher, but even, level.

But if your body wouldn't get tricked into unproportional growth why work the pecs any harder? They should just grow in proportion then right. For that matter just do some bicep curls and your whole body would grow. I'm not trying to bust balls either but in one breath you say your body will grow propotionaly no matter what and in the next you say you can bring up a weak bodypart, which is unproportional growth.

 

[solidspine]

Spot injections do not lead to spot growth, it is a myth!

Sorry

 

[pda321]

i think the msg board karma system has the unwanted side effect of a lot of people responding to posts of which the title is the only thing they read...

 

[nuthnbutfords]

It's all about spreading the muscle fascia...Anything you put in it damages it which, in turn, leads to regrowth at a faster rate...IMO

I'm leaning towards chef on this. The reason..from what i hear..that it doesn't work..is because once your cycle is over, you have to continue to use SEO(site enhancment oil) to continue filling the newly created space.

A cycle of prop..mixed with SEO for 6 weeks in the arms...followed by a 6 month maintenance period of nothing but SEO...and once all the SEO has drained out (from what I hear)...you will get localized growth. I have not done this, because you shouldn't try anything like this until your arms potentially have maxed out.

I could be wrong, but who on this board has tried this method to confirm i am wrong. Maybe someday i'll experiment on myself for you guys, and put the issue to rest.

 

[SlimJim300]

But if your body wouldn't get tricked into unproportional growth why work the pecs any harder? They should just grow in proportion then right. For that matter just do some bicep curls and your whole body would grow. I'm not trying to bust balls either but in one breath you say your body will grow propotionaly no matter what and in the next you say you can bring up a weak bodypart, which is unproportional growth.

I admit my statement seems contradictory about the unproportional growth, but you knowingly exaggerate my point.

You can't get Ronnie Coleman pecs if the rest of your body looks like a stick figure; and the body is not going to be tricked into this type of growth by spiking hormone levels after a certain bodypart is worked. The body will compensate in exactly the same way an untrained teenage kid wants big biceps, but fails. He does his curls, so biceps should grow, right? In reality he works his biceps and nothing happens. The point should stand even more true for a trained athlete. Of course the kid is not injecting a shot of prop either, but that would only raise hormone levels evenly throughout the whole body. Although he is in a more anabolic state, the same natural rules apply.

If the chest is not up to par with the rest of the body you can work it hard, and under the right nutritional and hormonal circumstances it will catch up. Of course it grows at an unproportional rate to catch up! There is no other way. But I stand by my point that you can't trick a certain bodypart to outgrow another by a timed hormonal spike. If you think it will work just give it a try and update me. I'll make a special thread to make sure everyone knows I stand corrected.

 

[bluehen]

I admit my statement seems contradictory about the unproportional growth, but you knowingly exaggerate my point.

You can't get Ronnie Coleman pecs if the rest of your body looks like a stick figure; and the body is not going to be tricked into this type of growth by spiking hormone levels after a certain bodypart is worked. The body will compensate in exactly the same way an untrained teenage kid wants big biceps, but fails. He does his curls, so biceps should grow, right? In reality he works his biceps and nothing happens. The point should stand even more true for a trained athlete. Of course the kid is not injecting a shot of prop either, but that would only raise hormone levels evenly throughout the whole body. Although he is in a more anabolic state, the same natural rules apply.

If the chest is not up to par with the rest of the body you can work it hard, and under the right nutritional and hormonal circumstances it will catch up. Of course it grows at an unproportional rate to catch up! There is no other way. But I stand by my point that you can't trick a certain bodypart to outgrow another by a timed hormonal spike. If you think it will work just give it a try and update me. I'll make a special thread to make sure everyone knows I stand corrected.

Fair point. I just was throwing that up for debate. I'm not sold on spot growth either with injections.

 

[SlimJim300]

I know you were. I hope I didn't sound too defensive there. If there weren't people who challenged ideas we would still be doing pyramid cycles and taking 17aas year round! Cool beans

 

[bluehen]

I know you were. I hope I didn't sound too defensive there. If there weren't people who challenged ideas we would still be doing pyramid cycles and taking 17aas year round! Cool beans

It's all good .