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Just as governments cooperate with heroine traffic they can cooperate with steroid traffic. There are no sophisticated cartels in place to move steroids. It's all done by the seat of the pants of the sources themselves. They are very easily shut down when governments cooperate. It happened 4 years ago in Greece and it's about to happen again.
 
Ulter said:
Just as governments cooperate with heroine traffic they can cooperate with steroid traffic. There are no sophisticated cartels in place to move steroids. It's all done by the seat of the pants of the sources themselves. They are very easily shut down when governments cooperate. It happened 4 years ago in Greece and it's about to happen again.
With all due respect, I would not be wishing ANY source of AAS to be closed because of government action.
Heroin and Cocaine are not schedule III drugs, they are Schedule I drugs (no known medical use; only can be used for research purposes with special permission).
Why do you want internet sites to be closed? Is it turf battle? If those sources dry up, it will become so expensive from domestic sources that many bros would be priced out. Or you would only have abscess-city UGs that you could afford.
One reason for no websites for Heroin and cocain is that these drugs are NOT LEGAL IN ANY COUNTRY. AAS is even legal in America with a doctor's prescription. And it is certainly legal to sell them without prescription in large number of other countries.
What you need to do is calm down hysteria, grand standing and demonisation in this country.
 
I am not wishing anything on anyone. I am pointing out that website based sources have brought undo attention to what we do.
Turf battle? Get a life. I am not a source and have no interest in any. My interest is only in this community.

One reason for no websites for Heroin and cocain is that these drugs are NOT LEGAL IN ANY COUNTRY

The steroids are not legally sold by individuals in the countries they are being sold from. So they are breaking the laws of their own countries.

Why do you want internet sites to be closed?

Because for several years there was no attention paid to the boards and the exchange of information and sources by the federal government. Now the GAO is publishing reports on it along with mainstream media. Are you that slow that you don't see the harm in all of this? You have no sense of the history of AS distribution in this country and that's obvious from your post. But that's pretty much been YOUR history here.
 
wow.

This royally sucks ass that the gov't has got their EVIL eyeball so focus on AAS. They must truely hate how we (steriod users or not) take life by the hold and accomplish what we want and how... they want to be and look like us so they take away our (well not mine... YET DAMN IT) "supplements," ect... not good.

Would this be a bad time to pursue an online vender? They are located in a AAS legal country and shipping seems like it will be... let just say I don't think it'll be a prob getting to me... but I don't want any alias or otherwise being on file with anone whom may possible be used for later legal discrepacies. Well I guess I'm going to answer my own question with a why not... it's Present (didn't want to leave any religious belief out, and if you don't receive presents, I feel bad for you!) season approaching and TONS of packages will be flowing about the country :)
 
interesting read, but the author is a idiot! Clen for bulking?!?!?! 200mg bottle of Deca (ummmm, what did you by, ONE AMP!)... come on, atleast SOUND like you have a clue!
 
LoneTree said:
With all due respect, I would not be wishing ANY source of AAS to be closed because of government action.
Heroin and Cocaine are not schedule III drugs, they are Schedule I drugs (no known medical use; only can be used for research purposes with special permission).
Why do you want internet sites to be closed? Is it turf battle? If those sources dry up, it will become so expensive from domestic sources that many bros would be priced out. Or you would only have abscess-city UGs that you could afford.
One reason for no websites for Heroin and cocain is that these drugs are NOT LEGAL IN ANY COUNTRY. AAS is even legal in America with a doctor's prescription. And it is certainly legal to sell them without prescription in large number of other countries.
What you need to do is calm down hysteria, grand standing and demonisation in this country.

A very good point - one small thing, cocaine is Schedule 2. Dilaudid (drugstore heorin) is schedule 2 also.
 
Ulter said:
Like I posted in the other thread I have been bitching about websites selling steroids over the internet for 4 years. People just don't get it. Everyone thought Napster was going to last forever too. When the governments decide they have had enough it will disappear and the internet access to steroids will be a fond memory of the good ol days. It's not just this article. Below is the report by GAO to congress for the steroid bill. Sources will make as much as they can for a few years and be so blatant that the governments will take measures to stop it. Whether that's by joint cooperation or by raising the penalties to 20 years for possession. Mandatory. The people running these sites are fucking it up for those of us who will want to buy steroids in 5 years or 10. Because they will be long gone and people will have to go deep underground to find what they want. WTF was so bad about everyone using encrypted email and source checks? It worked, no one paid attention, and it was just as reliable.

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06243r.pdf

Ulter, great post - thanks for this. Did you read the section about hushmail?

Excerpt:

Further, dealers operating through the Internet typically communicate with individual
customers through e-mail, and establish e-mail accounts using fictitious identifying
information and mailing addresses with one of the free e-mail services.8 Some officials
reported to us that the use of free e-mail accounts with fictitious account holder identity
information is found frequently in investigations, and is many dealers’ preferred means of
communication with customers. Such accounts add an additional layer of
anonymity to the dealer and complexity to law enforcement efforts to track down and
identify them.
Of particular concern to some officials are offshore providers of free e-mail services such
as Hushmail,9 based in Ireland, and Operamail, based in the Netherlands. Officials at one agency told us that they believe it is too risky to approach these providers with requests
for voluntary cooperation because they can ignore nondisclosure requests with impunity,
and may intentionally or unintentionally tip off the subjects of investigations.
Internet drug crime investigations are further complicated by service providers who strip
e-mail messages of information about their point of origin. E-mail generally contains
“header” information identifying various Internet Protocol (IP) addresses, including
“routing” and “originating” IP addresses. IP addresses may prove useful in determining
the identity of the user of a particular e-mail account. However, in some cases,
investigators find that some service providers automatically eliminate origination and
routing IP addresses from e-mail sent through their services. Hushmail, for example,
strips origination IP addresses and substitutes the IP Address of Hushmail’s own
computers on its customers’ communications. The result, for example, is that when a
steroids dealer in Florida sends an e-mail to a customer in Virginia, the e-mail that arrives
in Virginia has Hushmail’s originating IP Address in Ireland rather than the actual IP
originating address of the dealer.
Challenges in Interdicting Entry of Steroids into the United States
All international mail entering the United States through the U.S. Postal Service and
 
Some of you guys are missing the point, it doesnt matter if the writer of this article is wrong about the affects of a certain AAS that is not the point. Our world has just been opened up like a book, a damn pencil pushing geek who probably has never even picked up a weight has infiltrated us and exposed how we work.


This is not good, O and by the way look at the quality of gear we are purchasing, we are paying HIGH dollars for gear while at the same times exposing ourselves to getting caught and getting straight up BUNK gear. The game on the way down no matter how you look at it. Here we are stopping people from posting prices and sources on the open board and and Tom Dick and Harry can pick up the morning newspaper and learn EVERYTHING they need to know to get steriods online.


On top of that these sources that have just been exposed are BRAGGING out how they are better than the next tottally disregarding the underlining effect of what this has done!


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