Spanking Children

[madbomber31]

not sexually....

when does spanking cross the line? when should you stop spanking your child?

after reading a thread the other day i began wondering this....

a lot of us were hit with belts or paddles when we were young, but just because that shit happened back then doesnt make it right, ya know? so when does it cross the line???

in my opinion, if you have to take your kid to a doctor for the lashings you gave them, you are a fucked up individual with anger issues and need to get that shit resolved before you can become a respectable (not good) parent.

 

[puddlemonkey]

I'm a firm believer in violence solves everything.

 

[The Bigdawg]

I have no problem with spanking as long as it is not violent. You don't want to ever hurt a child.

I look at the generation of kids who were spanked compared to the new generation who weren't and the generation of kids who were are a helluva lot better then the kids nowadays.

I never got a spanking I didn't deserve, I don't resent my parents for doing it nor did I ever fear them for doing it.

 

[wakefib]

i think spanking should be used up to an age. let the kid know you could fuck them up.. they have to respect you and not want to disappoint you.. once the kid is able to think of others other than his/her self, then spanking shouldn't be used. talk to the kid and let them know why it is wrong.. if it's drugs or anything like that.. bust their ass

 

[puddlemonkey]

I have no problem with spanking as long as it is not violent. You don't want to ever hurt a child.

I look at the generation of kids who were spanked compared to the new generation who weren't and the generation of kids who were are a helluva lot better then the kids nowadays.

So if we spanked even more they'd be saints huh? I'll grab the belt!

 

[The Bigdawg]

So if we spanked even more they'd be saints huh? I'll grab the belt!

More? Half these kids have never been spanked so where did i say spank them more. Maybe read what I said first.

 

[Bikini Mod]

not sexually....

when does spanking cross the line? when should you stop spanking your child?

after reading a thread the other day i began wondering this....

a lot of us were hit with belts or paddles when we were young, but just because that shit happened back then doesnt make it right, ya know? so when does it cross the line???

in my opinion, if you have to take your kid to a doctor for the lashings you gave them, you are a fucked up individual with anger issues and need to get that shit resolved before you can become a respectable (not good) parent.

And which thread was this?

I hope you dont think I took my kid to the pediatrician because I hurt her? Hell I gave her four controlled yet forcefull shots to the rear with a belt.

SHE DID NOT HAVE A MARK ON HER.

I took her because her father has called DYFUS and the police on me in the past when I DIDN'T spank them. I did it to back myself up and THANK GOD I DID!

I have never ever hit any of my children out of anger.

I have four children ages 13 1/2 down to 9 and I can count on one hand how many times I have had to discipline all four this was collectively. Matter of fact I cant recall EVER having spanked my 9 year old.

If you aren't talking about me, then I retract my statements.

 

[Bikini Mod]

i think spanking should be used up to an age. let the kid know you could fuck them up.. they have to respect you and not want to disappoint you.. once the kid is able to think of others other than his/her self, then spanking shouldn't be used. talk to the kid and let them know why it is wrong.. if it's drugs or anything like that.. bust their ass

Just curious. Why should I wait till my daughter is in rehab before I bust her ass? Wouldn't you say it was a tad bit too late at that juncture?

 

[Lestat]

I will never inflict intentional pain on my children to punish them.

 

[The Bigdawg]

I will never inflict intentional pain on my children to punish them.

Do you have kids? Its a lot easier to say when you dont' have them.

I can't say whether I will or I won't spank, but I am not against and will not judge those who do.

 

[Lestat]

Do you have kids? Its a lot easier to say when you dont' have them.

I can't say whether I will or I won't spank, but I am not against and will not judge those who do.

No I don' yet, and I realize it is very easy to say when you don't, but I've studied spanking and the effects of spanking quite a bit and I can say for certain that barring a complete breakdown of self control on my part, my kids will not be spanked. I don't see much difference between spanking a kid with a hand, or god forbit a board or stick, or just punching them in the face. The goal is to inflict plain. Crazy fucking parents make their kids pull their pants down and shit too.. how degrading. All humans deserve more respect then that.

 

[The Bigdawg]

No I don' yet, and I realize it is very easy to say when you don't, but I've studied spanking and the effects of spanking quite a bit and I can say for certain that barring a complete breakdown of self control on my part, my kids will not be spanked. I don't see much difference between spanking a kid with a hand, or god forbit a board or stick, or just punching them in the face. The goal is to inflict plain. Crazy fucking parents make their kids pull their pants down and shit too.. how degrading. All humans deserve more respect then that.

Well I am from the generation that was spanked and I never thought of it as any kind of abuse what so ever. Will not say that it doesn't affect come kids as I am sure this would be untrue but I can say that my brother and I aren't fucked up or do we have any lingering affects from it.

I can say I have the best parents a person could want, even though I was spanked as a kid sometimes.

 

[Lestat]

Well I am from the generation that was spanked and I never thought of it as any kind of abuse what so ever. Will not say that it doesn't affect come kids as I am sure this would be untrue but I can say that my brother and I aren't fucked up or do we have any lingering affects from it.

I can say I have the best parents a person could want, even though I was spanked as a kid sometimes.

I too was spanked, and turned out ok.. but I can't say it didn't effect me.. a lot at the time.. less now, but I still have underlying resentment.

Ultimately, my parents did the best they could, I was the oldest and they were figuring out how to parent as they went.. overally, they did a great job.

 

[Bikini Mod]

No I don' yet, and I realize it is very easy to say when you don't, but I've studied spanking and the effects of spanking quite a bit and I can say for certain that barring a complete breakdown of self control on my part, my kids will not be spanked. I don't see much difference between spanking a kid with a hand, or god forbit a board or stick, or just punching them in the face. The goal is to inflict plain. Crazy fucking parents make their kids pull their pants down and shit too.. how degrading. All humans deserve more respect then that.

Dont say what you will or wont do until you are past that time.

When you have raised ONE CHILD to adulthood you can speak. Until then hold your tongue of judgment.

You are entitled to your opinion. But judge not...

 

[The Bigdawg]

Ultimately, my parents did the best they could, I was the oldest and they were figuring out how to parent as they went.. overally, they did a great job.

That is what counts bro!

 

[Bikini Mod]

I too was spanked, and turned out ok.. but I can't say it didn't effect me.. a lot at the time.. less now, but I still have underlying resentment.

Ultimately, my parents did the best they could, I was the oldest and they were figuring out how to parent as they went.. overally, they did a great job.

I remember my parents saying, "This hurts me more than it does you. And better that you should cry now then that I should cry later."

Oh my god did I HATE THAT.

That is... untill I had children of my own.

I have no anger or resentment for anything my parents did in regards to disciplining me growing up. They did the best they could with the tools they had in the circumstances they were in.

 

[seizer]

I have no problem with spanking as long as it is not violent. You don't want to ever hurt a child.

I look at the generation of kids who were spanked compared to the new generation who weren't and the generation of kids who were are a helluva lot better then the kids nowadays.

I never got a spanking I didn't deserve, I don't resent my parents for doing it nor did I ever fear them for doing it.

I dont like this logic. Because first off, what about the kids who turned out fine who weren't spanked? Trust me, the reason for bad kids goes far beyond not spanking, it's called lazy parents who dont know how to correct a problem when it first starts and having their child go out of control.

No matter how you cut it, spanking is violence. The whole basis for learning from spanking is pain. They do this behaviour, you consider it wrong, you give them pain so they wont want to do that anymore.

To inflict pain IS violence.

Hitting kids is a poor excuse for teaching them how to "properly" behave. Parents gotta use their brain, say hey, how do I feel when I get pain? Do I ALWAYS learn from it? NO. It can piss you off and make you worse and you know that. So then, knowing that, you know that in hitting a kid thinking their gonna learn from it, you're taking a gamble. They may learn, OR they may turn on you.

 

[The Bigdawg]

I dont like this logic. Because first off, what about the kids who turned out fine who weren't spanked? Trust me, the reason for bad kids goes far beyond not spanking, it's called lazy parents who dont know how to correct a problem when it first starts and having their child go out of control.

That is stating the obvious.

 

[seizer]

That is stating the obvious.

Obviously the problem isnt that obvious because as you say, kids are a bunch of punks today.

 

[Lestat]

Dont say what you will or wont do until you are past that time.

When you have raised ONE CHILD to adulthood you can speak. Until then hold your tongue of judgment.

You are entitled to your opinion. But judge not...

I can tell you that I will not rape or molest my children.. why do I have to wait until after to say that?

I can also say I will not spank them.

 

[Cutiebaby]

I have 3 kids age range from 7 to 1...i can honestly say i tried all methods of punishment on my oldest and the only affective on was spanking...I do not spank him any more as i feel that he is too old in my eyes.i dont judge those that do because it is their choice.I now ground him or take away things that he likes.although it is not that often that i have to...My daughter is 2 and i have not really spanked her much because of the fact that she is girl and highly spoiled (yes my big mistake) and i must say that she is a pain in the behind when it comes to punishment.and then of course my almost 1 yr old who does get an occasion spank on his hand if he is putting himself in dangers why...
i think that spanking range on the child and on the parents and i am not against it.
as far as age i think IMO that when my son hit school age he needed to learn responsibility and consequence...he is responsible for his action and needed to learn the consequence...for instance if he is bad in school i cannot very well have him come home and spank him..in studies it proves that children cannot comprehend the fact that they are being punished for earlier instances..so the school and i worked together on it and figured process of elimination was great for him.whether it be no recess or he needed to go into "quiet time" for a bit...
like i said i think it all ranges on the parents and the children whether or not to spank and to what age.....

 

[The Bigdawg]

Obviously the problem isnt that obvious because as you say, kids are a bunch of punks today.

It should be obvious to anyone who wants to see things for hte way they are nowadays.

Not all kids but a large portion have zero respect for anyone. Someone is blind if they cannot see it.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I can tell you that I will not rape or molest my children.. why do I have to wait until after to say that?

I can also say I will not spank them.

Your statement is illogical. To put raping/molesting in the same category as spanking is foolish. I thought you smarter than that.

Did you know that DYFUS recognizes corporal punishment as an "acceptable means of discipline"? Not that this means YOU should employ this method at all. Just giving you the head up here.

 

[Lestat]

Your statement is illogical. To put raping/molesting in the same category as spanking is foolish. I thought you smarter than that.

Did you know that DYFUS recognizes corporal punishment as an "acceptable means of discipline"? Not that this means YOU should employ this method at all. Just giving you the head up here.

how so? I can tell you with near 100% certainty of things I will NOT do in my life, let alone do to my children.

Just because other people think inflicting pain on children is ok, doesn't mean I do. I'd hurt myself before I hurt them.. and I'm not likely to hurt myself.

 

[The Bigdawg]

how so? I can tell you with near 100% certainty of things I will NOT do in my life, let alone do to my children.

Just because other people think inflicting pain on children is ok, doesn't mean I do. I'd hurt myself before I hurt them.. and I'm not likely to hurt myself.

I know people that have said the same thing and have spanked.

 

[Bikini Mod]

how so? I can tell you with near 100% certainty of things I will NOT do in my life, let alone do to my children.

Just because other people think inflicting pain on children is ok, doesn't mean I do. I'd hurt myself before I hurt them.. and I'm not likely to hurt myself.

You can say whatever you wish and I actually believe you mean what you are saying.

However, please recognize the fact that you may change the way you feel once you have made it to the other side of the lawn where the grass is not so green.

That is all I am saying.

If you dont believe in spanking, then dont do it. As long as your kid isn't hurting anyone - not you - not me - not my kid it is all good.

 

[Gymgurl]

I have already stated on another thread that I do spank if needed however it is not needed to much

 

[WODIN]

We don't spank our kids. Nor will there come a time when either of us will engage in spanking.

 

[Lestat]

I know people that have said the same thing and have spanked.

i know a lot of people that believe in fairy tales too... doesn't mean I haev to.

 

[The Bigdawg]

i know a lot of people that believe in fairy tales too... doesn't mean I haev to.

Hey if you don't great. But never say never in life, it usually bites people in the ass.

 

[Gymgurl]

Hey if you don't great. But never say never in life, it usually bites people in the ass.

HA..right on.......or DON'T say it until you have your own kids...I thought I would never do it....

 

[Bikini Mod]

We don't spank our kids. Nor will there come a time when either of us will engage in spanking.

Some kids dont need it. But from what you've posted you seem to be a pretty good husband and parent so I envy your children's situation.

I have never spanked my 9 y/o.

I may have spanked my nearly 11 y/o once.

I have spanked my 12 y/o max 3 times if that.

My oldest is the only one who seems to do things that warrant it.

 

[Gymgurl]

I agree Bikinimom....it really depends on the kids...I can count on one hand the the times I have spanked all three and it has only been two of them

 

[The Bigdawg]

I agree Bikinimom....it really depends on the kids...I can count on one hand the the times I have spanked all three and it has only been two of them

Very true, I don't remember my older sister every being spanked. She was an angel. My brother and I on the other hand........well him and I fought each other like fricken animals. UFC had nothing on the fights him and I had.

 

[Gymgurl]

Right I have one that has needed it...for example....found her walking on the lake with the ice half frozen and dangerous.....she knows better becasue she grew up on this lake and has been told over and over gain to not go there without a parent.....

 

[boxerjake]

Spanking proves you inability to parent ... end of story

Lashing out at a defenceless person to convey a message of wrong doing is born more out of your own fustration of not being able to parent then it is as a deterent to re-offend .

Once you spank your child someone should grab hold of you and bitch slapp you to the ground for being such a fuck up to start with .. if you can't teach your child right from wrong and reason with them when they make the wrong choices in life then your own destiny is in sure to follow suit ....

When do you stop spanking then ?? when there old enough to strike back and hurt you ? when does it end .. all they learn is violence breeds violence , you strike a child and the first thing that comes to there mind is getting back at you .. it's human nature and that you can't change . Sure the message might get through and they might not re-offend but you have just taught them if they don't want someone to do something then they should hit them ..

It's a circle of violence that will never end ...

Humans are pack animals .. segrigating them from the herd does as much to teach them right and wrong as inflicting pain through physical means .

I've never once hit my kids ( 7 and 9 ) .. I change my tone and they run for fuckin cover ... it's mental torture for them to think i'm disappointed in them .. thats born out of a loving relationship not a master servant relationship where you do as i say or i strike you down like the dog you are

 

[Gymgurl]

Depends on the kids....I was one that would stand there and not move, blink or talk while my parents tried to discipline me.....I deserved to be spanked.....now spanking and beating are two different things

 

[WODIN]

Depends on the kids....I was one that would stand there and not move, blink or talk while my parents tried to discipline me.....I deserved to be spanked.....now spanking and beating are two different things

I'll give you a good spanking!

 

[Lestat]

Spanking proves you inability to parent ... end of story

Lashing out at a defenceless person to convey a message of wrong doing is born more out of your own fustration of not being able to parent then it is as a deterent to re-offend .

Once you spank your child someone should grab hold of you and bitch slapp you to the ground for being such a fuck up to start with .. if you can't teach your child right from wrong and reason with them when they make the wrong choices in life then your own destiny is in sure to follow suit ....

When do you stop spanking then ?? when there old enough to strike back and hurt you ? when does it end .. all they learn is violence breeds violence , you strike a child and the first thing that comes to there mind is getting back at you .. it's human nature and that you can't change . Sure the message might get through and they might not re-offend but you have just taught them if they don't want someone to do something then they should hit them ..

It's a circle of violence that will never end ...

Humans are pack animals .. segrigating them from the herd does as much to teach them right and wrong as inflicting pain through physical means .

I've never once hit my kids ( 7 and 9 ) .. I change my tone and they run for fuckin cover ... it's mental torture for them to think i'm disappointed in them .. thats born out of a loving relationship not a master servant relationship where you do as i say or i strike you down like the dog you are

great post. agreed.

 

[Gymgurl]

I happen to like it now.....I guess that what happens to your kids if you spank them lol

 

[boxerjake]

Depends on the kids....I was one that would stand there and not move, blink or talk while my parents tried to discipline me.....I deserved to be spanked.....now spanking and beating are two different things

This plays right back into my original post ...

Children are a creature of there enviroment .. they immulate what they see and hear ... you as a child learned your behavior from someone .. what was acceptable and what was not , the problem started way before you just stood there waiting for the discipline ..

You want me to figure the rest out you'll have to come spend some time on my leather couch at $400.00 an hour ... lol

 

[Bikini Mod]

I am curious - I have four kids - same gender. One has never been spanked. Two have barely been spanked and the oldest spanked a few times when she put herself in harm's way after every other form of discipline was exhausted.

Why is it that only my oldest does things that in my opinion warrant her to be spanked do you think? She does things that make her younger sisters cringe.

Seriously, not trying to be facetious.

 

[boxerjake]

Could be a multitude of reasons ... Trying to command attention is common , with many other siblings competing for affection it is not uncommon for children to seek attention in any form possible .. positive or negative .. now for an adult its easy to see the errors in this logic but for children there parents are there whole life and at times extreme errors in judgement can occur over attenion seeking .

I remember reading an artilce about a 10 year old boy who killed his 12 year old sister because mom and dad spent all there time on her ... now thats fucked up to you and me but to that boy who now probably really regerts his dicission now , it was his only coping mechanism because he had never been taught to deal with his emotions or taught how to express them ... it was later discover the father was a very controlling man and effection was hardly ever shown in the family unit ... it's tragic what leads to this kind of stuff , it's not an excuse , it's just tragic

I'm not saying this is the case with your child ... don't get me wrong it's just an example !!

As far as that goes she could just be a very overactive child who seeks the adorphin rush of doing things on the edge ... thrill seeking is well documented as being addictive to children in the 10 to 15 year range .. they definatly don't have the coping mechanisms inplace to deal with the rush of " happy hormones " given off ...

Could have the wild child syndrom ... the look at me i'm the oldest and see what i can get away with ...

Without spending time with your child and typing her personality it's tough to say where her spunk is coming from ... i'm sure if you took a step out of the family unit and look in from the outside you'd see it more clearly .

 

[SlimJim52]

I am a firm believer in the "Board of Education". Was introduced to it in 3rd Grade by the priciple. Dam thing had holes in it. But what was worse was, they told my father. Now days the father would sue the school. Back then, it just meant more punishment at home.

Jr. High a nun re-introduced me to that tool. But she had a much more painful way of using it. Wood on the back of your knuckles just ain't a good thing, OUCH.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Could be a multitude of reasons ... Trying to command attention is common , with many other siblings competing for affection it is not uncommon for children to seek attention in any form possible .. positive or negative .. now for an adult its easy to see the errors in this logic but for children there parents are there whole life and at times extreme errors in judgement can occur over attenion seeking .

I remember reading an artilce about a 10 year old boy who killed his 12 year old sister because mom and dad spent all there time on her ... now thats fucked up to you and me but to that boy who now probably really regerts his dicission now , it was his only coping mechanism because he had never been taught to deal with his emotions or taught how to express them ... it was later discover the father was a very controlling man and effection was hardly ever shown in the family unit ... it's tragic what leads to this kind of stuff , it's not an excuse , it's just tragic

I'm not saying this is the case with your child ... don't get me wrong it's just an example !!

As far as that goes she could just be a very overactive child who seeks the adorphin rush of doing things on the edge ... thrill seeking is well documented as being addictive to children in the 10 to 15 year range .. they definatly don't have the coping mechanisms inplace to deal with the rush of " happy hormones " given off ...

Could have the wild child syndrom ... the look at me i'm the oldest and see what i can get away with ...

Without spending time with your child and typing her personality it's tough to say where her spunk is coming from ... i'm sure if you took a step out of the family unit and look in from the outside you'd see it more clearly .

I know EXACTLY what her problem is. Just wanted to see what your thoughts were. Some is from her personality but the bulk of it is that she is parented inconsistently, encouraged to misbehave in my home and actually rewarded for doing it which makes my job ALMOST impossible. Were she in my home most of the time she would have all the attention, guidance and consistent discipline she needs along with even healthier doses of positive reinforcement. I have always been a hyuge proponent of "catching your kids doing something right."

I have always been a firm believer of rewarding positive behavior as opposed to focusing on negatives and then using punishments. Worked very well for me until we were thrust into this insane situation that we have now found ourselves in for over 5 years.

The problem I am having is with the legal system and my ex utilizing it to use the kids to hurt me. This is why I am having such a tough time.

I do NOT enjoy spanking my children now, nor did I ever.

Unfortunately because our circumstances can be so extreme, sometimes extreme measures are called for to deal.

I had all of my kids in therapy, my ex took them out because he didn't want to be bothered to make another trip and also didnt want to pay for it. Until I can come up with more money I can not return to court to get an order to put them back in.

I BEGGED the DYFUS official to make my ex attend counseling with us.

I go and have been going on a consistent basis for over 2 years.

If the children were with me and had very little contact w/their father NONE of my children would be acting out the way they do. It is only that the oldest has REALLY acted out.

 

[Smurfy]

somebody please change BIKINIMOM'S User Title to: BOLD 'N CAPS

 

[StickFigure]

Spanking becomes abuse when the parent waits to administer the dicipline AFTER they are pissed off. It doesn't take many swats with a strap of hard leather to get their attention. Spanking is meant to get their attention not to inflict injury or cause humiliation. That is where it turns to abuse. Also, the ass is the only place that a child should ever be struck. Not to the face, the back of the legs, or anywhere else. There is extra "padding" back there for a reason. It should also be done in private not in front of others. Also the parent that grabs the child by the arm and administers the "Karate chops" to the backside while dangling the child by their arm is also abusive. Spanking should be a calm controlled event.

 

[seizer]

Spanking becomes abuse when the parent waits to administer the dicipline AFTER they are pissed off. It doesn't take many swats with a strap of hard leather to get their attention. Spanking is meant to get their attention not to inflict injury or cause humiliation. That is where it turns to abuse. Also, the ass is the only place that a child should ever be struck. Not to the face, the back of the legs, or anywhere else. There is extra "padding" back there for a reason. It should also be done in private not in front of others. Also the parent that grabs the child by the arm and administers the "Karate chops" to the backside while dangling the child by their arm is also abusive. Spanking should be a calm controlled event.

Spanking never becomes abuse, it always is. Doesnt matter where you hit or how hard.

Dont try to justify spanking, it's not even worth it.

 

[Bikini Mod]

somebody please change BIKINIMOM'S User Title to: BOLD 'N CAPS

LOL actually I prefered EF Tourettes m'self

 

[StickFigure]

Spanking never becomes abuse, it always is. Doesnt matter where you hit or how hard.

Dont try to justify spanking, it's not even worth it.

I don't need to justify anything. It's not abuse whatsoever when administered properly.

 

[StickFigure]

^^^^

 

[puddlemonkey]

Less chit chat more beatings please

 

[Destroyer1986*]

Spanking proves you inability to parent ... end of story

Lashing out at a defenceless person to convey a message of wrong doing is born more out of your own fustration of not being able to parent then it is as a deterent to re-offend .

Once you spank your child someone should grab hold of you and bitch slapp you to the ground for being such a fuck up to start with .. if you can't teach your child right from wrong and reason with them when they make the wrong choices in life then your own destiny is in sure to follow suit ....

When do you stop spanking then ?? when there old enough to strike back and hurt you ? when does it end .. all they learn is violence breeds violence , you strike a child and the first thing that comes to there mind is getting back at you .. it's human nature and that you can't change . Sure the message might get through and they might not re-offend but you have just taught them if they don't want someone to do something then they should hit them ..

It's a circle of violence that will never end ...

Humans are pack animals .. segrigating them from the herd does as much to teach them right and wrong as inflicting pain through physical means .

I've never once hit my kids ( 7 and 9 ) .. I change my tone and they run for fuckin cover ... it's mental torture for them to think i'm disappointed in them .. thats born out of a loving relationship not a master servant relationship where you do as i say or i strike you down like the dog you are

How can I say this without being rude? Ummm lets see, by reading this you are a total fucking idiot. I was spanked yes, does not mean for one second that my folks have an inability to be great parents. They infact were and are great parents who I look up too. LMAO at kids striking back at there parents because they got hit on the bottom as a kid.
You dont hit your kids good for you, dont ever call someone incapable of being a good parent because they spank their children.
I respect my parents very much.

 

[puddlemonkey]

How can I say this without being rude? Ummm lets see, by reading this you are a total fucking idiot. I was spanked yes, does not mean for one second that my folks have an inability to be great parents. They infact were and are great parents who I look up too. LMAO at kids striking back at there parents because they got hit on the bottom as a kid.
You dont hit your kids good for you, dont ever call someone incapable of being a good parent because they spank their children.
I respect my parents very much.

Agreed. I'd give you karma but apparently I've given too much out in the last 24 hours. I'll have my people contact George's people and we'll get it taken care of.

 

[pdaddy]

Do you have kids? Its a lot easier to say when you dont' have them.

I can't say whether I will or I won't spank, but I am not against and will not judge those who do.

I do and can firmly say that. My ex that I lived with had a two yr old and I lived with them both untill she was four. If you need to use a violent act to get your point across what kind of message is that sending to your child? There is always an alternative. Spanking is for the lazy

 

[StickFigure]

How can I say this without being rude? Ummm lets see, by reading this you are a total fucking idiot. I was spanked yes, does not mean for one second that my folks have an inability to be great parents. They infact were and are great parents who I look up too. LMAO at kids striking back at there parents because they got hit on the bottom as a kid.
You dont hit your kids good for you, dont ever call someone incapable of being a good parent because they spank their children.
I respect my parents very much.

great post bro!

 

[EnderJE]

I do and can firmly say that. My ex that I lived with had a two yr old and I lived with them both untill she was four. If you need to use a violent act to get your point across what kind of message is that sending to your child? There is always an alternative. Spanking is for the lazy

Kids just seem to follow you around, bro.

 

[StickFigure]

I do and can firmly say that. My ex that I lived with had a two yr old and I lived with them both untill she was four. If you need to use a violent act to get your point across what kind of message is that sending to your child? There is always an alternative. Spanking is for the lazy

That's bullshit. It takes more effort to be consistant with proper spanking than any other form of dicipline. I get more compliments from people about how well behaved and polite my 5 kids are. And if it weren't for proper dicipline I firmly believe that would not be the case.

 

[Lestat]

Lets just put it this way everyone, there WILL be a time in the future, hopefully sooner, rather then later, that spanking a child, inflicting ANY type of pain on a child, will be so taboo you'd get thrown in jail for it.

 

[StickFigure]

Lets just put it this way everyone, there WILL be a time in the future, hopefully sooner, rather then later, that spanking a child, inflicting ANY type of pain on a child, will be so taboo you'd get thrown in jail for it.

I'd like to see 'em try and lock me up for that.

 

[pdaddy]

That's bullshit. It takes more effort to be consistant with proper spanking than any other form of dicipline. I get more compliments from people about how well behaved and polite my 5 kids are. And if it weren't for proper dicipline I firmly believe that would not be the case.

lol @ proper spanking, I believe that's an oxymoron. Spanking 'trains' your kids out of fear, there are alot better learning tools than that.

Ender- It seems that way huh, I was 21 at the time too when I moved in with her and her kid, boy was that a learning experience.

 

[madbomber31]

boring sex life in the old age?

 

[Lestat]

I'd like to see 'em try and lock me up for that.

one day bro.. it will go away like slavery... public execution.. etc

 

[madbomber31]

BM, yes this thread was in response to yours.... i cant imagine "spanking" a teenaged girl... well, under 17 anyway.

 

[Lady Viking]

A question for those who spank their kids, what do you think you achieve with spanking?

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

99% of kids are going to need a swift spanking many times as they grow up and learn to live by THE MAN's rules..lol

 

[Bikini Mod]

BM, yes this thread was in response to yours.... i cant imagine "spanking" a teenaged girl... well, under 17 anyway.

Then perhaps you should get the facts straight. This applies to anyone else that read my posts.

You dont agree with my method, fine you are entitled. Just dont spank any fucking kid that you are responsible for. Problem solved.

But - you dont have children. Sorry, I dont care what you say or what your job experience has been. Even if you have young children, it does not count. I hardly ever had to spank any of my children before I split from their father. I still laugh at people who are so fucking dumb that they "dont know how to make their kids eat healthy or go to bed" or had to childproof their entire surrounding environment. My kids ate what I put in front of them, or they didn't get anything else. Bedtime was bedtime no matter what the excuse. I took them all out of the crib when they were potty-trained by the age of 21 months. Never did I have lock or move a single item that was breakable or could have harmed them. If I said, "Dont touch that, it isn't safe or it doesnt belong to you then they didnt touch that and that was that.

I raised my children by myself. My ex worked and I was home with them 24/7 so they had plenty of love and guidance.

Now their circumstances are not that way and unfortunately shit sucks, but I am doing the best that I can. If my kids hate me daily then guess what? I AM DOING MY FUCKING JOB. I didn't have children to win popularity contests or to grow my new best friend.

All of my kids are decent and bright human beings. Unfortunately they are confused and poorly parented so now it is my job to fix it. But I have limited resources and very few have actually offered me any sound guidance. But by God, judgement has been offered by the droves!

Notice how the people who have given THE BEST advice are those that have raised at least one child to young adulthood? Why do you think that is?

About 6 years ago I also could not have imagined having to spank my 7 year old daughter when she was 13, but then again I also could not have imagined any of the other twists our lives were to take.

So what exactly is it that you are trying to say that is going to help here?

You know what I find to be most amusing about the anti-spank camp? (Especially this one school official with whom I personally spoke). When I describe all the methods of discipline I did employ, speak of how I had ALL of my children and myself in therapy for 2 years - voluntarily - I dont NEED a court to tell me how to run my family, but they are there nonetheless, aren't they? - I explain the severity of the infraction the child had committed and ask - "WHAT SHOULD I HAVE DONE."

You know what the fucking answer was?


I DONT KNOW.


Well thank you fucking very much!

Four controlled shots to the rear was "crossing the line" - but when I ask for advice the ones who say that spanking is degrading and humiliating (I have news for you. - YOU SHOULD feel ashamed when you have done something so awful that your mother feels her hands are tied but to employ corporal punishment!) and never acceptable under any circumstances offer:

NOT A SINGLE FUCKING WORD OF GUIDANCE.

Well thank you for being so god-damned helpfull!

Go ahead, pass judgement on a situation you have zero knowledge of - dont give me teacher/social worker bullshit - those kids dont live with you 24/7. The morgue isn't going to be calling you to identify any child's body, so spare me the meaningless bullshit rhetoric.

 

[-SD-]

All the adults my age around 30 all who were spanked all say that it was good and taught necessary lessons and they benefited from that experience now in adulthood. Im not a social worker or anything but I think thats good evidence of spanking's merit.

 

[madbomber31]

Then perhaps you should get the facts straight. This applies to anyone else that read my posts.

You dont agree with my method, fine you are entitled. Just dont spank any fucking kid that you are responsible for. Problem solved.

But - you dont have children. Sorry, I dont care what you say or what your job experience has been. Even if you have young children, it does not count. I hardly ever had to spank any of my children before I split from their father. I still laugh at people who are so fucking dumb that they "dont know how to make their kids eat healthy or go to bed" or had to childproof their entire surrounding environment. My kids ate what I put in front of them, or they didn't get anything else. Bedtime was bedtime no matter what the excuse. I took them all out of the crib when they were potty-trained by the age of 21 months. Never did I have lock or move a single item that was breakable or could have harmed them. If I said, "Dont touch that, it isn't safe or it doesnt belong to you then they didnt touch that and that was that.

I raised my children by myself. My ex worked and I was home with them 24/7 so they had plenty of love and guidance.

Now their circumstances are not that way and unfortunately shit sucks, but I am doing the best that I can. If my kids hate me daily then guess what? I AM DOING MY FUCKING JOB. I didn't have children to win popularity contests or to grow my new best friend.

All of my kids are decent and bright human beings. Unfortunately they are confused and poorly parented so now it is my job to fix it. But I have limited resources and very few have actually offered me any sound guidance. But by God, judgement has been offered by the droves!

Notice how the people who have given THE BEST advice are those that have raised at least one child to young adulthood? Why do you think that is?

About 6 years ago I also could not have imagined having to spank my 7 year old daughter when she was 13, but then again I also could not have imagined any of the other twists our lives were to take.

So what exactly is it that you are trying to say that is going to help here?

You know what I find to be most amusing about the anti-spank camp? (Especially this one school official with whom I personally spoke). When I describe all the methods of discipline I did employ, speak of how I had ALL of my children and myself in therapy for 2 years - voluntarily - I dont NEED a court to tell me how to run my family, but they are there nonetheless, aren't they? - I explain the severity of the infraction the child had committed and ask - "WHAT SHOULD I HAVE DONE."

You know what the fucking answer was?


I DONT KNOW.


Well thank you fucking very much!

Four controlled shots to the rear was "crossing the line" - but when I ask for advice the ones who say that spanking is degrading and humiliating (I have news for you. - YOU SHOULD feel ashamed when you have done something so awful that your mother feels her hands are tied but to employ corporal punishment!) and never acceptable under any circumstances offer:

NOT A SINGLE FUCKING WORD OF GUIDANCE.

Well thank you for being so god-damned helpfull!

Go ahead, pass judgement on a situation you have zero knowledge of - dont give me teacher/social worker bullshit - those kids dont live with you 24/7. The morgue isn't going to be calling you to identify any child's body, so spare me the meaningless bullshit rhetoric.

ok, several things... first, i didnt pass any sort of judgment... i wondered when spanking crossed the line...

second, if your kids hate you, you are NOT doing a good job... period.

finally, you have changed.... from a fun, bubbly, mature person to what you are now. read that any way you want while you watch mommy dearest.

 

[Bikini Mod]

ok, several things... first, i didnt pass any sort of judgment... i wondered when spanking crossed the line...

second, if your kids hate you, you are NOT doing a good job... period.

finally, you have changed.... from a fun, bubbly, mature person to what you are now. read that any way you want while you watch mommy dearest.

LOL

My children LOVE ME... the only one who has "issues" is the one who isn't allowed to run the show at our home. Feel me? I have yet to hear of one kid that "loved their parents" when they were being punished.

Fun and bubbly?

Darlin - you haven't clue one what it is like to be aconstantly ssaulted by a barage of mean-spirited hate-spewing ASS HOLES who do nothing but proliferate garbage.

Not to mention the fact that life has broken us just a tiny bit.

You have no idea what it is like to be homeless, alone, have your children taken from you twice - for NO REASON or to be watched, humiliated, stalked, harrassed or have your children used for loving you...

Sadly, I do.

Has this changed me?

Ummmmmmmmmm yes.

But the facade on elite is not indicative in the least of who I am in real life. I do not get verbally assaulted on a regular basis (or now that you mention it - EVER) in the real world. If you can not understand this, then oh well.

Just look over the thread I posted anwering AAP's question about why people no longer disciplne their kids. The thread was a legitimate answer to his question.

Look at how many hating assholes posted up bullshit - I am not talking about people like Ceasar or Lestat. Just because you do not agree doesnt mean I have an issue. I LIKE intelligent debate.

I am talking about all the fucking 15 year old twats who have nothing better to do then try to pollute otherwise intelligent yet controversial discussions about any issue I care to give my input over.

Ignore them you say....

I have and what does that net me?

More of the same.

You feel what you like, it matters not to me.

 

[Bikini Mod]

All the adults my age around 30 all who were spanked all say that it was good and taught necessary lessons and they benefited from that experience now in adulthood. Im not a social worker or anything but I think thats good evidence of spanking's merit.

I think you *might* be onto something.

But whatthefuck do I know?

 

[WODIN]

All the adults my age around 30 all who were spanked all say that it was good and taught necessary lessons and they benefited from that experience now in adulthood. Im not a social worker or anything but I think thats good evidence of spanking's merit.

They're just rationalizing.

 

[Smurfy]

Let's stop talking about this incessantly. No one is going to change their point of view on this particular topic. Let's get naked and have a big fat ORGY.

 

[Bikini Mod]

They're just rationalizing.

With all due respect... what in life is not?

There is no truth only perception

.....and our perception IS reality.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Let's stop talking about this incessantly. No one is going to change their point of view on this particular topic. Let's get naked and have a big fat ORGY.

The best offer I have had all day!

Woooo-hooooooooo!!!!

I'll bring the jello shots.





Been too damned long since I have had me some of them.

 

[biteme]

I never liked it. Everytime I got a spanking, I'd go in my room and cry and say "I hate you, I hate you, I hate you." Over and over again. Time out and restrictions would have worked on me much better. But, being a parent is very hard. The other day if I could have gotten my hands on my daughter, I'd have probably whipped her butt. I was in the bathroom and she was calling me a dumbass and other names, after I'd gone to the store for her to buy mice for her snake (Which I loathed). SHe was mad because I tried to feed the snake and she said I did it wrong. She should have been here to do it herself, I called her and told her I was here with the mice and to come home from the neighbor's to feed the snake. She didn't come when she said she would, so I tried to do it myself.

 

[Destroyer1986*]

I never liked it. Everytime I got a spanking, I'd go in my room and cry and say "I hate you, I hate you, I hate you." Over and over again. Time out and restrictions would have worked on me much better. But, being a parent is very hard. The other day if I could have gotten my hands on my daughter, I'd have probably whipped her butt. I was in the bathroom and she was calling me a dumbass and other names, after I'd gone to the store for her to buy mice for her snake (Which I loathed). SHe was mad because I tried to feed the snake and she said I did it wrong. She should have been here to do it herself, I called her and told her I was here with the mice and to come home from the neighbor's to feed the snake. She didn't come when she said she would, so I tried to do it myself.

Shit, who needs a spanking when you have a snake that eats mice in your house., lol.

 

[pdaddy]

Let's stop talking about this incessantly. No one is going to change their point of view on this particular topic. Let's get naked and have a big fat ORGY.

IN!!

 

[Bikini Mod]

I never liked it. Everytime I got a spanking, I'd go in my room and cry and say "I hate you, I hate you, I hate you." Over and over again. Time out and restrictions would have worked on me much better. But, being a parent is very hard. The other day if I could have gotten my hands on my daughter, I'd have probably whipped her butt. I was in the bathroom and she was calling me a dumbass and other names, after I'd gone to the store for her to buy mice for her snake (Which I loathed). SHe was mad because I tried to feed the snake and she said I did it wrong. She should have been here to do it herself, I called her and told her I was here with the mice and to come home from the neighbor's to feed the snake. She didn't come when she said she would, so I tried to do it myself.

My kids can wish me dead under their breath for all I care but they are not even allowed to look at me disrespectfully let alone utter a disrespectfull word to me - I only demand what it is that I have earned.

I do not name-call, yell, degrade or belittle ever.

I also do not allow my children to treat each other this way - ever.

If that was my home?

My daughter would have come home to an empty snake home. Feel me? If she was not responsible enough to take care of her pet then that animal deserves a better home.

No snake, need to get mice, no need for her to raise her voice to me for me trying to do something nice for her.

Problem solved.

 

[madbomber31]

problem solved??? or problem created? it seems you have only black and white, their are shades in between.

 

[madbomber31]

and one more thing... you complained about the counselor doing her job... she's required by law to report anything physical, who is she to decide abuse? she reports it and lets the state take care of it from there... it's her job first and foremost... yet you complained about that.

 

[Cutiebaby]

My kids can wish me dead under their breath for all I care but they are not even allowed to look at me disrespectfully let alone utter a disrespectfull word to me - I only demand what it is that I have earned.

I do not name-call, yell, degrade or belittle ever.

I also do not allow my children to treat each other this way - ever.

If that was my home?

My daughter would have come home to an empty snake home. Feel me? If she was not responsible enough to take care of her pet then that animal deserves a better home.

No snake, need to get mice, no need for her to raise her voice to me for me trying to do something nice for her.

Problem solved.

i can finally agree with you some what here. ...the day i ask my child to come home and feed its pet its responsibility and they dont come home will be the day we no longer have a pet..
ALSO- i think the day my 13 yr old or teenager best worded sits there and calls me a dumb ass and other names will be the day that they will never forget...i do not degrade my children and they will not me.....dont get me wrong they can definitaly express their feelings but in a mature repectful way!!!!!

 

[Bikini Mod]

and one more thing... you complained about the counselor doing her job... she's required by law to report anything physical, who is she to decide abuse? she reports it and lets the state take care of it from there... it's her job first and foremost... yet you complained about that.

Abuse, yes.

There was no abuse.

She did not give me the courtesy of a phone call. THAT was disrespectfull to me not to mention the undue stress it caused my family. Had she called me we could have talked and I would have been able to get the children ready for all of the bullshit that followed thereafter. This woman KNEW that my family was having issues - that DYFUS had been called on my by their father many times before. My children had been interviewed by so many "concerned professionals" THEY are sick and tired of it, but I am powerless to make it stop.

I told her the same thing that I have told you.

YOU will not feel the pain when the city morgue calls to have MY daughter's body identified.

Can YOU offer me an alternative other than, "I DONT KNOW" when I ask what I should have done? Please, do if you can.

She couldn't either. If you can - I will STFU.

Until then - you are entitled to your opinion, but if you can offer no HELPFUL ADVICE please hold your judgmental tongue as now you are not part of the solution - but only part of the problem.

 

[needtogetaas]

why spank,just kick there fucking ass.

 

[Bikini Mod]

problem solved??? or problem created? it seems you have only black and white, their are shades in between.

Darlin - no responsible behavior in regards to an innocent living creature = NO PET.

Problem solved.

Maybe one should wait until the thing dies...

I have yet to hear of a child that grew up to murder their parents because they took away THE PRVILIGE of caring for a pet - that they did not care for properly to begin with.

There are no shades. If the pet is mistreated and suffers (as is the case here) then there is a problem.

No pet = no problem.

 

[madbomber31]

no BM, she needs to report ANYTHING physical.

 

[Bikini Mod]

why spank,just kick there fucking ass.

LOL I've always thought that dropping them from the roof of a tall building required so much less effort!

But then again, the clean up would be a pain.





Oh well, nevermind then.

Carry on! Ass-kicking 'tis!

 

[Bikini Mod]

no BM, she needs to report ANYTHING physical.

She could have called me. She did not.

We ended the conversation quite well. I told her that if I feel the need to spank my daughter again, I will bring her in personally, instruct her to drop her pants and show her backside. I will explain, in detail, what my daughter did to warrant such punishment and I will hand the phone to the counselor and dial DYFUS up personally.

If my daughter is not ashamed that I had to employ such methods of discipline that she felt the need "to show her friends who care about her" who "alerted the counselor" - actually those dumb little bitches were trying to "get me in trouble" LOL - then she wont feel ashamed when I do what I cited above.

Ashamed? PUH-LEASE.

The system and retarded parents have created a bunch of spoiled little monsters that wouldnt know shame and personal responsibility if it hit them upside the head.

I would have loved to have seen the looks on those same little bitch's faces though, when the counselor alerted THEIR PARENTS that during sleepovers these "concerned citizens" thought it funny to rotate prank calls to teen abuse hotlines from their cells.

Again - I reiterate - PUH-LEASE.

 

[-SD-]

They're just rationalizing.

I suppose no adult is capable of judging how childhood experiences impact them later in life.

 

[madbomber31]

She could have called me. She did not.

We ended the conversation quite well. I told her that if I feel the need to spank my daughter again, I will bring her in personally, instruct her to drop her pants and show her backside. I will explain, in detail, what my daughter did to warrant such punishment and I will hand the phone to the counselor and dial DYFUS up personally.

If my daughter is not ashamed that I had to employ such methods of discipline that she felt the need "to show her friends who care about her" who "alerted the counselor" - actually those dumb little bitches were trying to "get me in trouble" LOL - then she wont feel ashamed when I do what I cited above.

Ashamed? PUH-LEASE.

The system and retarded parents have created a bunch of spoiled little monsters that wouldnt know shame and personal responsibility if it hit them upside the head.

I would have loved to have seen the looks on those same little bitch's faces though, when the counselor alerted THEIR PARENTS that during sleepovers these "concerned citizens" thought it funny to rotate prank calls to teen abuse hotlines from their cells.

Again - I reiterate - PUH-LEASE.

it's not her job to call you, it's her job to report anything physical... she did her job yet you dont see that... you are blaming people who are doing their jobs... if nothing was abusive then you have/had nothing to worry about at all.

 

[Cutiebaby]

it's not her job to call you, it's her job to report anything physical... she did her job yet you dont see that... you are blaming people who are doing their jobs... if nothing was abusive then you have/had nothing to worry about at all.

EXCUSE ME (not that i am siding with bikini mom) but........why are you nipping at her ankles? seems like the whole thread thus far you have done nothing but try to say she was in the wrong! please feel free to correct me if i am wrong here.....Do you have kids? if so do you punish them??????? what would you do in her shoes??????

 

[madbomber31]

no kids.... but just because someone has them doesnt mean they know a fucking thing about raising them... take a look around.

anyway, my last reply was a direct comment at:
"She could have called me. She did not."

my point is, her (the counselor) job is not to call BM and let her know that she is informing the state, her job is keeping the kids safe and reporting anything physical... she owes BM jack shit.. not a phone call, not a letter.. NOTHING... she did her job, thats my point.

 

[harmonica]

I got this email awhile back that is very on topic...






Love vs. Spanking (a psychological conundrum)

Most of America's populace think it is not proper to spank children, so I have tried other methods to control my kids when they have one of "those moments."


One that I found effective is for me to just take the child for a car ride and talk.


They usually calm down and stop misbehaving after our car ride together.


I've included a photo below of one of my sessions with my son, in case you would like to use the technique.

 

[Extra_Strong]

U people that have been spanks that think it is good to spank feel this way because you were taught that as a child. U'r were taught if you donk like what someone does and you are stronger than them then U can inflict pain on them to get them to do what you want.. So why would U no agree with it. "Do what i say or I will hurt you" " I will make you pay"......

I as a child felt the same I would go to my bed room and think of what i did that got me caught. Or think about how i was right and they were wrong. I did not do shit for me. It is about understanding why or why not.

If i can do it then all i have to do is get stronger so i can..

most of you cant imagin a world without spanking cause you have never seen it.

but i agree if you can not contoll them in anyother way. It is better than nothing sad to say it..

 

[Bikini Mod]

it's not her job to call you, it's her job to report anything physical... she did her job yet you dont see that... you are blaming people who are doing their jobs... if nothing was abusive then you have/had nothing to worry about at all.

No she certainly did not do her job.

She knew my family was having specific issues. We have talked about it on a few occasions before this situation arised. She called me on those occasions because she wanted to talk and begin a dialogue, etc and try to help out. Alerting me to problems the children were having at school that THE CHILD claimed arose from my home.

Why did she not give the courtesy of a call this time?

You have no idea what stress this caused the rest of my children.

Either be involved or STFU (is my feeling about being a school counselor).

So as I said. Now I will do her job for her.... just so that it doesnt get fucked up next time. This woman clearly does not know how to do her job.

That she has to call the state is only HALF her job. She didnt do jackall for my family except make a shit situation even worse. GOOD JOB!!!

I told you that I took the kid to the pediatrician w/in 12 hours to PROVE that there was no abuse. Abusers dont beat their kids then take them to the pediatrician the very next morning and say, "Honey drop your jeans and show the doctor where mommy took a belt to your ass for making your mother come to look for you at 11:30PM on a Friday night."

And seriously - just because you dont have kids certainly DOES mean that you dont know a fucking thing about raising them. Talk till you are blue in the face, those of us who have children only humor you but I am one of the few who may have the balls to tell you to your face. Sorry...

I have yet to hear one word of constructive advice from your mouth or from any of the other mouths of the anti-spank camp. But I have heard lame-ass judgement ad nauseum.

The moment when the words "I DONT KNOW" came from the lame-ass counselor after they said that I "crossed the line" with the punishment that I employed when I replied with, "What should I have done" was as fucking priceless as it is now. Hell it is even better because I have it in cyberspace as well.

You did not begin this thread to help anyone. It certainly was not begun to defend some idiot counselor bitch. It was begun specifically to attack me but suddenly changed directions when I merely pointed out that because of a combination of your lack of the ability to properly comprehend English and no lack of the ability to embellish that which you could not understand, THE ONLY "leg" you had to stand on in this arguement that YOU BEGAN was to back the lame-ass school policy of fuck the kid whose mother has half a brain in her head that you know is busting her ass to try to deal with a fucked up situation by further muddying the waters and NOT contacting home directly... you know, REALLY helping out!

But fear not, I told you that I would now gladly do the bitch's job for her by bringing any child that I discipline to her directly and picking up the phone to ring DYFUS personally from her phone so that we could all be on the same page.

Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it.

The day the milk carton company contacts you for a recent pic of MY KID is the day you get to say fuckall to me.

(PS - please read my thread about how I am the "semi-cool" mom again Which is sooooooo far from this that it is scary. It may teach YOU a thing or two. But that thread wasn't laden with moronic controversy so, of course, it dropped off of page one in a minute.

Corporal punishment is ALWAYS a last resort and is only a miniscule part of discipline. However, when properly employed serves a usefull purpose. If you dont agree, then just dont fucking spank any kid that you are personally responsible for... that is, any kid that you are responsible for, for more than a few hours a day, a few days out of that child's life.)

 

[madbomber31]

look, i began this thread because i wondered when spanking crossed the line to abuse... PERIOD... i dont give a fuck what you do... if you want to spank a teenager, knock yourself out...

but stop fucking crying about everything that goes wrong...

the lady did her fucking job, she owes you jack shit... deal with it.. the world is not out to get you, nor is this counselor... it doesnt take a fucking genius to spread their legs and let some guy nut in them... it doesnt take a good person or even a sane one to raise a child.. just because you got knocked up and have a few kids doesnt mean you know shit about children.... and the opposite is also true... i dont need to pop out a kid to know what the fuck is going on...

stop crying and blaming others and take some responsiblilty for what happened.. you hit your kid, the counselor did her job, now the state is doing theirs and watch what happens, they will find nothing wrong because you disciplined your kid... no big deal... but you come on and cry and bitch about how your ex is the problem... take a look in the fucking mirror...

and if you decide to do me the honor of a reply, please dont make it an essay as i cannot deal with reading your rants.

 

[madbomber31]

by the way, keep spanking your teenager and see how long it takes for elsie the cow to contact you because your kid ran her ass away from her nut job mom.

 

[Bikini Mod]

look, i began this thread because i wondered when spanking crossed the line to abuse... PERIOD... i dont give a fuck what you do... if you want to spank a teenager, knock yourself out...

but stop fucking crying about everything that goes wrong...

the lady did her fucking job, she owes you jack shit... deal with it.. the world is not out to get you, nor is this counselor... it doesnt take a fucking genius to spread their legs and let some guy nut in them... it doesnt take a good person or even a sane one to raise a child.. just because you got knocked up and have a few kids doesnt mean you know shit about children.... and the opposite is also true... i dont need to pop out a kid to know what the fuck is going on...

stop crying and blaming others and take some responsiblilty for what happened.. you hit your kid, the counselor did her job, now the state is doing theirs and watch what happens, they will find nothing wrong because you disciplined your kid... no big deal... but you come on and cry and bitch about how your ex is the problem... take a look in the fucking mirror...

and if you decide to do me the honor of a reply, please dont make it an essay as i cannot deal with reading your rants.

You paid for your college degree?

 

[Bikini Mod]

by the way, keep spanking your teenager and see how long it takes for elsie the cow to contact you because your kid ran her ass away from her nut job mom.

LOL Is THIS the best you could do? I liked it better when you contained your threads to whining about why you could not get your old handle back and talking about something equally interesting and challenging to the mind: professional football.

You start an arguement based on misinformation then you dont even have the mental fortitude to argue intelligently.

Damn, no wonder our country is in such a sad state of affairs. Not only is a college education obviously worthless, but THIS is who we are entrusting our children's education to?!

I reiterate - if there were any way possible - I would sooooooooooooo homeschool my children as madbomber *cough* blitz69 a clear example of who should NEVER teach anyone's children jackall as he clearly doesnt have a clue what he is talking about.

THANK GOD you have not figured out how to impregnate some simp who was "smart enough" to know how to spread her legs. Or else I might feel the need to whoop his/her ass too!



*just kidding*

 

[madbomber31]

LOL Is THIS the best you could do? I liked it better when you contained your threads to whining about why you could not get your old handle back and talking about something equally interesting and challenging to the mind: professional football.

You start an arguement based on misinformation then you dont even have the mental fortitude to argue intelligently.

Damn, no wonder our country is in such a sad state of affairs. Not only is a college education obviously worthless, but THIS is who we are entrusting our children's education to?!

I reiterate - if there were any way possible - I would sooooooooooooo homeschool my children as madbomber *cough* blitz69 a clear example of who should NEVER teach anyone's children jackall as he clearly doesnt have a clue what he is talking about.

THANK GOD you have not figured out how to impregnate some simp who was "smart enough" to know how to spread her legs. Or else I might feel the need to whoop his/her ass too!



*just kidding*

i'd skip this and laugh at a psycho chick who spanks her teens, but i think i'd rather reply... think of me any way you want and think of how i do my job any way you want, that does not matter to me as you mean nothing to me. but you do realize what you do, right? you realize you deflect everything aimed at you and you attack...

BM, you did nothing a 12 year old inner city daughter of a crackwhore couldnt do.. you had kids... thats nothing special, sorry. now i see why you spanked your daughter, she made you mad and your anger came out... you rationalize what you do, good for you...

i answer back something you state and it becomes "the best i can do"... you are the one who claimed by spanking your teenager she wont be on a milk crate... i simply replied and said that by spanking her and treating her like that it could actually lead to her leaving...

you then go on to say how i know nothing and you feel bad for the state of our country because kids are in my hands??? you go on doing what it is you do and blaming your ex for your situation... go on and blame the counselor for your situation... go on and blame your daughters friends for your situation... go on and blame the parents of these friends for your situation... but please, whatever you do... DO NOT BLAME YOURSELF... you are above that.