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totti28

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What's up guys. I recently had a int'l order seized by Chicago customs. Items were sent from Denmark. This is the second seizure within the past month from this Denmark source. This individual is so confident in his shipping methods that he refuses to believe that the goods were seized. He seemed skeptical that the first seizure even occured, however I scanned the customs letter to him and he agreed to a resend. However, after the second seizure which also occured in Chicago, I e-mailed him and explained the situation. His reply: " I'm sorry but we cannot do anymore business" Bros, I feel very insulted by this short, rude response. I have given this individual a good amount of business within the past month or two and this is the treatment that I recieve. I even offered to scan the letter in the package to him. This is upseting because I felt that I had established a trusting relationship with this individual. How would you guys go about handling this? Thanks and I would greatly appreciate any advice.
 
If this seizure has hapened twice... his packaging must be very poor. So, I would assume that it's his fault. However, if he doesnt want to business with you, then he probably wont no matter what you do. Consider finding another source bro.
 
I am thinking about calling this individual out on other boards about this. I would like to warn other bros about this guy, and the kind of treatment that they could possibly recieve. Any suggestions on this.
 
Actually you're lucky that he even attempted to do business with you. Some sources won't even consider it if the package has to go through the Chicago port
 
Dude that happened to me several months ago when a source out of romania said he sent my shit out...WELL I waited for 4-8 weeks before I took action just to give him the shadow of a doubt... After I told him that my shit never got here and I never got a customs letter he did not believe me. He thought I was fucking him!!!! Finally after getting mods to email him about the matter did he resend... WEll at least 1/2 my order!!!!!

So moral of the story stay shy of big hearts and hot cables#$%
 
I believe that all reg. airmail from Denmark enters the U.S. through the Chicago port of entry. I am very closed to NYC, so why wouldn't of hit JFK? This individual I am sure is aware of this situation of reg. airmail entering via Chicago. I feel that that I am being somewhat scammed in this situation. This guy knows that Chicago is very good at seizing gear, and yet he is indirectly saying that I am lying about the seizure! Bros, I really feel that I should call this guy out about this.
 
elite hot topic, the fucked up thing is that I have the letter which came in the package stating that the goods are an illegal importation, Chicago Customs, blah blah blah.....yet this guy made no mention of wanting to see a scanned copy? I am expecting to recieve a second letter in a few weeks, and he made no mention of that either?
 
This guy has not come through on many orders as of late - lots of people on other boards complaining of him not resending seized packs.
 
Hate to say it, but you may as well accept the loss and start looking for another source. This is part of the reason why I have chosen to not deal with international orders. It is always a 50/50 shot of getting your goods. I am sorry about your loss. How large of an order was it?
 
I'm in the northeast. That's why I find it strange that a pack headed to me would arrive via Chicago?
 
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do you expect him to just keep sending more and more goods to get seized? do you not worry about continuing to get seizure letters yourself? why not pay a little more and order from a domestic?
 
DRRman, I am mostly upset at the way I was treated in response to my mentioning the seizure. I have given this individual some good business over the last month or two, and feel that I deserve a little more than a short, rude response. Obviously this guy is not a good business man.
 
drrman we are all men hear and we all know that guys are very tempted to make bad decisions. My problem is I dont know why it is such a bad deciesion. On any given order from over seas I can save almost 1000$. Now you tell me why I would want to take a chance on ordering from the UK???
 
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totti28 said:
I'm in the northeast. That's why I find it strange that a pack headed to me would arrive via Chicago?


Mailing services often subcontract their mail to airline carriers when they need extra help during heavy shipping periods. Sometimes a plane will land in Chicago even though the mail they are carrying was destined for somewhere else.

A lot of mail ends up in Manchester, New Hampshire before it is rerouted for it's original destination..
 
I wouldn't blame the source for not wanting to send anymore packs to you. BUT THE SOURCE STILL HAS AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE GOOD ON A DEAL. He should refund you your money. He never should have accepted your money if he wasn't willing to do whatever he has to do to make the deal right.

To me this is a poor source.

Go domestic bro.
 
Most good sources tell you their resend policy at the time of ordering, I see more and more that will only resend 1/2 of the original order and some will not resend at all. Don't forget that customs keeps a record of all seizures, they don't flag your addy in the sense that they search through the millions of packages going through all the ports of entry for your addy (some people actually believe they do this which is complete nonsense), but if too many seizures show up going to the same person they can take further action so I'd be carefull about having too many packages sent to an addy with a lot of seizures on record.
 
I forgot to mention that this individual indicated that he will reship 50% if a seizure occurs. I feel that he is basically ripping me off due to his response. If he previously said that he will reship 50% he should be obligated to offer some sort of compromise in terms of a resend/refund. If not, he is basically going against his word and is in the same class as scammers.
 
He sent it twice. If I had an order that got siezed twice... there is no way I'd ask for a third send.

It's time for you to take the loss. He made good twice.
 
Sofageorge, I should of made it more clear. After the first seizure he sent a resend which I recieved. This current seizure is not a resend it is the original order.
 
totti28 said:
Sofageorge, I should of made it more clear. After the first seizure he sent a resend which I recieved. This current seizure is not a resend it is the original order.

He sent two orders... your original and a resend... in my book that is an ethical source. If it got siezed twice... eat teh loss.

It's not ethical to ask him for a third package. At a certain point you have to assume some risk yourself.

International source are cheaper than domestic sources bacause of the risk of siezure.

If I order internationally... I don't expect a source to keep sending me packages till one arrives. What's the point of selling a product at lower prices if they have to keep resending packages.
 
SofaGeorge, are you having trouble understanding what I said. Let me make it more clear for you. I have had two seizures from this source. The first one occured about 4-6 weeks ago. A resend was sent which I recieved. This most recent seizure was from an order I placed a couple of weeks ago. IT WAS NOT A RESEND! ARE YOU ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THIS?

Yea I'm sure you would be willing to eat a loss on a order in which the source indicated that he had a 50% resend policy. Read the posts more carefully before you make stupid statements, you sound retarded.
 
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SofaGeorge, are you having trouble understanding what I said. Let me make it more clear for you. I have had two seizures from this source. The first one occured about 4-6 weeks ago. A resend was sent which I recieved. This most recent seizure was from an order I placed a couple of weeks ago. IT WAS NOT A RESEND! ARE YOU ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THIS?

Yea I'm sure you would be willing to eat a loss on a order in which the source indicated that he had a 50% resend policy. Read the posts more carefully before you make stupid statements, you sound retarded.

Bro,

let me blast your karma to red so sources will know to not deal with you at all.

I've got to recharge tonight... but look forward to 100 points in the morning. :)
 
Sofageorge, what the fuck is your problem. I am sure any other bro who ordered from an international source who stated that there was a 50% resend policy would be fairly upset?
 
totti28 said:
Sofageorge, what the fuck is your problem. I am sure any other bro who ordered from an international source who stated that there was a 50% resend policy would be fairly upset?


Read your post to me asswipe... and a suggestion... don't post anything you wouldn't say to my face.
 
By the way aren't you the guy who posted that you have been on the juice for 2 or 3 years nonstop? You seem like a very stupid man.
 
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Read your post to me asswipe... and a suggestion... don't post anything you wouldn't say to my face.


Uh oh, internet tough guy. Bro, I can assure you that I would say what ever I want to your face. Trust me on that.
 
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Bro,

let me blast your karma to red so sources will know to not deal with you at all.

I've got to recharge tonight... but look forward to 100 points in the morning. :)

Oh please not a negative karma threat!:rolleyes:
 
agree totally..

MikeyG said:
If this seizure has hapened twice... his packaging must be very poor. So, I would assume that it's his fault. However, if he doesnt want to business with you, then he probably wont no matter what you do. Consider finding another source bro.
 
yeah.. what a joke!!!! I got the email....In my opinion he got way over his head!!!!
I do believe he is a stand up guy but it is hard to run a big operation out of a small office if u know what I mean...
 
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yeah.. what a joke!!!! I got the email....In my opinion he got way over his head!!!!
I do believe he is a stand up guy but it is hard to run a big operation out of a small office if u know what I mean...

Bro, he is definitly a good guy. I have heard that the mail system in that part of Europe is very inefficient, and it is not uncommon for packages to disappear. :(
 
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yeah.. what a joke!!!! I got the email....In my opinion he got way over his head!!!!
I do believe he is a stand up guy but it is hard to run a big operation out of a small office if u know what I mean...

:confused:
It just confuses the hell out of me!

There is nothing there:confused:
 
JLAWz said:


:confused:
It just confuses the hell out of me!



I heard about him from a VERY good place......Never tried it, is he good?


Yes bro, he is very good. However, order in advance because TA is usually around a month for me.
 
beefy,, well that depends, he had a web site that opened several months ago. Now as of yesterday there is a new one....
I love the code layout..lol
 
This is why I will not order from anyone who has anything less than a 100% resend policy. People with only a 50% resend policy obviously aren't very confident with their packing, and don't value customer satisfaction very much.

If someone sent me a pack which got received and refused to resend, I would demand my money back. Taking someone's money and not delivering the goods promised is scamming. Seizure or no seizure. It's not the buyer's fault it was seized, and he should not lose his cash.

The source has a responsibility to get that pack through customs, and when they fail, they should make up for it in either a resend or refund. Simple as that.

This is one more reason to get source checks because reputable sources do not pull this kind of shit.
 
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